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Editorial RPG Codex Retrospective: Roguey fights for social justice in Josh Sawyer's Icewind Dale II

Cyclone

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Actually, the Aliens thing is a bit if a stretch, even for Roguey. Usually his trolling is a bit more subtle than that so he must have been struggling for trademark material in this case.
Context here is important.
"Time to work on Icewind Dale. How can I work rape into this?"
"Now to write the outline of Icewind Dale II. Man I'm going to put so much rape in here like you wouldn't believe."
"A mature story like The Black Hound needs rape. Think I'll have a woman abort it in the town square in front of everybody too."
"A chance to work on Aliens, one of my favorite movies about gay male rape? You better believe I'll take it!"
"Wow I get to work on Fallout again. Now I'll finally get to introduce Caesar's Legion in all their rapey glory. George, write a quest about rape."
Wow, describing (alien) male-on-male rape as "gay"? Too far. There's nothing gay about male on male rape. It's offensive (not to mention just plain inaccurate) to assume anything about the sexuality of a rape perpetrator/victim on the basis of sex. Please respond to this post and note your genuine contrition so that we can all see that you recognize your inadvertent bigotry on this subject. Thanks in advance.
 

Roguey

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Wow, describing (alien) male-on-male rape as "gay"? Too far. There's nothing gay about male on male rape. It's offensive (not to mention just plain inaccurate) to assume anything about the sexuality of a rape perpetrator/victim on the basis of sex. Please respond to this post and note your genuine contrition so that we can all see that you recognize your inadvertent bigotry on this subject. Thanks in advance.
Take it up with the writer. Quoting again:

O'Bannon himself later described the sexual imagery in Alien as overt and intentional: "One thing that people are all disturbed about is sex... I said 'That's how I'm going to attack the audience; I'm going to attack them sexually. And I'm not going to go after the women in the audience, I'm going to attack the men. I am going to put in every image I can think of to make the men in the audience cross their legs. Homosexual oral rape, birth. The thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole number.'"
 

Cyclone

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Wow, describing (alien) male-on-male rape as "gay"? Too far. There's nothing gay about male on male rape. It's offensive (not to mention just plain inaccurate) to assume anything about the sexuality of a rape perpetrator/victim on the basis of sex. Please respond to this post and note your genuine contrition so that we can all see that you recognize your inadvertent bigotry on this subject. Thanks in advance.
Take it up with the writer. Quoting again:

O'Bannon himself later described the sexual imagery in Alien as overt and intentional: "One thing that people are all disturbed about is sex... I said 'That's how I'm going to attack the audience; I'm going to attack them sexually. And I'm not going to go after the women in the audience, I'm going to attack the men. I am going to put in every image I can think of to make the men in the audience cross their legs. Homosexual oral rape, birth. The thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole number.'"

Oh, wow, way to deflect the criticism, the first line of defense of the unrepentant. You chose to use (a variant of) his description. Nobody forced you to. You're not even pretending to be O'Bannon in those quotes; you're pretending to be Sawyer. If O'Bannon had instead called it "nigger oral rape" would you have borrowed his language there, too? Please. Just admit you fucked up.
 

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