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Review RPG Codex Review: Pillars of Eternity, by Decado

Decado

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
 
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Overboard

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.

:butthurt:
 

Ninjerk

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
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I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing
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Don't know what this means
you say it's boring to write about details that nobody reads, yet the people in this thread are criticizing the review because you left out details. you dismiss codex reviews for a reason proven wrong in this very thread. sounds like there's some ego involved.
 

Decado

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I haven't dismissed any reviews. I like Codex reviews, for the most part. I'm just not the person to write them, and now I know that.

Does this seem like the admission of a person with his ego invested in it all?
 

tuluse

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
I think the style is fine. It's not really your call if it fits to be honest. Crooked Bee felt it was good enough to put up, and she makes that call.

PoE is so controversial, you'd have pages of people calling your review shit no matter what you wrote.
 

Ninjerk

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
I think the style is fine. It's not really your call if it fits to be honest. Crooked Bee felt it was good enough to put up, and she makes that call.

PoE is so controversial, you'd have pages of people calling your review shit no matter what you wrote.
I'm pretty sure at this point PoE has to be Codex GOTY just for causing this much butthurt whether you liked it or not.
 

Jaedar

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
Eh. Your Grimrock 2 review was certainly up to snuff. It's just that this one wasn't.

If I was you, the lesson I'd take from this is that you should figure out what the differences between your approach and writing was and why one failed.
 

Shevek

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There is nothing more obnoxious and effeminate than a grown man engaging in passive-aggressive snark. Ugh.

It seems obvious that the review doesn't fit the Codex, which is something I expressed concern with in the staff thread. I write for a living, and I take my ego out of my writing, so people saying it is terrible, etc, is fine -- that's the way it goes. Anyway, I don't think I'm suited to writing reviews for the Codex, because I quickly grow bored with providing reams and reams of tiny details that I'm almost certain nobody is actually reading. The Codex has a style of review, and mine doesn't fit. Lesson learned.
The same people dissing your review are the ones that praised a review that read like a forum rant by a shut-in schizophrenic teenager.
 

sser

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Decado, to relieve the grief a bit, you could have written the War & Peace of PoE reviews and people would still pop a squat over it.
 

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I want to bring up the subject of the Steam Curator page again, specifically the apparent omission of Roxor's review on it.

For the record, I want to preface that I didn't particularly like Roxor's review. I acknowledge that it is quite accurate, painfully so, but reading it is like what you go through after having dug up your long-lost, beloved uncle and propped him up on the chair: some people are going to insist on pointing out all the bad things like the fact that his skin is starting to peel off, that there are maggots coming out of his eyes, and that he stinks so bad the dog left. But it's your uncle -- do you really have to point all that out?

I also want to say that Decado's more "feely" review makes me comfortable. I want to snuggle up with it. It's like a nice, warm security blanket. There aren't nearly as many reminders that this game isn't what we all so desperately had hoped it would turn out to be. There's no mention of its effect on several Codex members; that it drove people like Sensuki permanently insane. It's a nice review (and yes, it is a review). Even if its bulk is comprised of emotional rhetoric. I like emotional rhetoric.

But the fact that both reviews aren't featured on our Steam Curator page is, in my estimation, at least, a travesty, and, at most, a felonious omission.

Here is a screenshot of who I would assume to be Codex' authority on this matter, Infinitron's, apparent opinion:

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I kept asking after that who exactly it is that defines what should and what should not be included on an official Steam Curator page. Infinitron would not answer. Others stated they thought that both reviews, balancing one another out, would be best. Still others felt that they agreed with Infinitron, that only "recommendations" are appropriate there.

I ask you, Codex: what do you really think? Are we beholden to some standard that we will blindly follow? Who is it that decides for us what we can and cannot say about a game in a format that (unfortunately) is the most widely-viewed available to the gaming public (certainly we can't invite everyone here)? Haven't we always been about the truth here? Hasn't Codex always held in great disdain anything that smelled of roses and honeysuckle dreams? Fuck my comfort level: I know what's right and what's wrong. Fuck what Steam might say we're "supposed" to do as Curators. Fuck being a Curator in the first place but that cat's (or should I say Bee's?) been let out of the bag for a long time now.

I don't like Darth Roxor. He makes me feel bad inside. But the feeling that Codex is hiding our other half from the seething Steamtard masses on a game that deserves to be both equally loved in NAMBLA-like fanboy passion and hated with every fiber of our hivemind collective possible feels even worse.

I say this crime must be corrected, if not punished. Put links to both up on the Curator page. Buck the Doritos trend! Restore Codex Glory!

Who's with me?
 

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"80% of the game is fighting. Lucky for us, the combat is mostly well done"\

80% of game time is spent reading long and tedious dialogue lines upon the subject of souls that the game is oversaturated with from tip to toe.
If a fly shits on a piece of bread and it does not have the right consistency? the culprit = souls.
If a child does not hold properly the spoon while eating? Souls.
If a merchant kills his wife because she's a fuckin' shrew? Souls.
If a king decides to invade the neighboring country? Souls.
 

tuluse

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I meant the opposite, I forsee lots of 1's
Maybe. There was a lot of discussion about how bad WL2 was and it managed to get on the podium. Most people who like but don't love a game tend to not post about it and it skews discussion into amazing or awful with no middle ground.
 

Kz3r0

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The voting for Codex GOTY is going to be a bit more agenda driven than usual this year :lol:
Roguey will lead the Sawyeites against the invading potatohordes that will only register to vote Bitcher best gaym evah!!!!
Yeah, the GOTY vote will be even more shitty and pointless than usual.

Obviously anyone non voting for Serpent in the Staglands can't be taken seriously.
 

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