RPGCodex lost it's prestige & I blame Witcher 3

[Mikeal]

Lol Codex was never prestigious in the first place.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Unfortunately Witcher 3 a CPRG, though it would be better if it wasn't. "Go kill some level 10 bandits", "Wow, you've killed King of the Wild Hunt? You must be pretty strong! Now go kill thoses lvl 80 bandits!". What in the world is this garbage. It's a good game all things considered, but all the RPG elements just drag down the entire experience. It would be so much better if it was just an open-word action game.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dedicated_Dark]

was codex ever prestigious? obscure != prestige

For a guy with over 6000 posts you seem to be rather ignorant. Codex really isn't obscure. A lot of major devs used to hang around in the forums & codex was well recognized; they even explicitly took criticisms. Nowadays in a time where a wrong twitter message can get you fired, Codex is among the worst places to be seen in.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Disco Elysium is a thing in the Codex? Oh boy, this place is sinking low...

Not sure where you've been hiding for the past half year, but Disco Elysium upon its release immediately won the ardent support of a large contingent of Codexers, and it was later voted the Codex's CRPG of 2019.

 

[RNGsus]

Codex has always been shit.

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[Dramart]

I blame Disco Elysium, the ones who now love Oblivion, and the ones who hate KotOR games.

 

[1eyedking]

Not sure where you've been hiding for the past half year, but Disco Elysium upon its release immediately won the ardent support of a large contingent of Codexers, and it was later voted the Codex's CRPG of 2019.

Then this place has truly sunken to new depths.

Now that I think of it, it was inevitable, given how the average Codex denizen doesn't care about anything artistic as long as a game fulfills their RPG checklist.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

And it's insulting. I can only come to the conclusion that Codex is now a trove for retards from reddit and damaged alzheimer's patients who can't play games anymore. It's insulting that this was once upon a time the site that I looked upto as prestigious. And Sad...

The extends some people go to feel good about themselves...

 

[Machocruz]

It's called color palette.

Wow, Witcher 3, a game made in color, has a color palette. Truly in a class by itself. What a rebuttal!

And you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I have every idea what I'm talking about.

For comparison, this is a painting by Caspar David Friedrich:

I thought you were going to prove the previous statement. You've presented an image without providing an argument. So what? And it's not comparable in scene, lighting conditions, or chroma. CDF's grasp and handling of these things probably exceeded anyone working at CDPR. You don't know how or why.

Pure realism is boring, I'm thankful for art direction. The thing I don't like is "make it like a movie camera!!!" effects. Games are games, not movies.

Nothing wrong with that, I wasn't pitting "pure" realism against art direction. I'm commenting on the use of a visual trope often used in modern film, one that utilizes a lazy, superficial application of color theory, and offers no benefit other than expedience for the makers. Hardly an example of significant artistry, in those scenes.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

All those things are good only when they're accompanied by competent visual design, music, atmosphere and writing.

Except videogames aren't paintings, music, movies or books.
Those aspects complement the game, but they aren't it's essence. The art of videogames, what they possess that none of the other medium has is interactivity (i.e. gameplay).
If the game doesn't have that, doesn't matter how pretty the colors are it's just like a fabergé egg. Pretty on the outside, empty on the inside, without any substance and value to it.

 

[Duralux for Durabux]

Except videogames aren't paintings, music, movies or books.
Those aspects complement the game, but they aren't it's essence. The art of videogames, what they possess that none of the other medium has is interactivity (i.e. gameplay).
If the game doesn't have that, doesn't matter how pretty the colors are it's just like a fabergé egg. Pretty on the outside, empty on the inside, without any substance and value to it.

 

[Nano]

Just imagine what, say, Deus Ex would be like if it didn't have the fantastic atmosphere, music, and visual design.

 

[DalekFlay]

Just imagine what, say, Deus Ex would be like if it didn't have the fantastic atmosphere, music, and visual design.

It counts for way more than people think. Same with movies, which have gotten away from melody in their soundtracks for reasons I will never understand. The music in movies like Back to the Future was a huge part of their appeal.

 

[Machocruz]

Another thing that a lot of games have aped from modern movies, to ill effect: their approach to scoring. No one is going to remember most of that ambient, background stuff 10 years from now, or generic superhero and Bruckheimerian military themes. In many cases, it might as well not be there. I don't know what they think they're gaining from it. Setting mood, reinforcing theme? The BttF soundtrack announces itself loud and clear, while still doing those things. Same with Star Wars, Psycho, Once Upon a Time in the West, etc. There's a reason those scores are famous: they work top to bottom thematically and are memorable as all get out.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Just imagine what, say, Deus Ex would be like if it didn't have the fantastic atmosphere, music, and visual design.

It would still have the great gameplay and levels that make it the best RPG. And therefore more worthwhile than any of the Witcher games.

Again the true strength of a medium/artform is the quality that's intrinsic to it.

 

[Gyor]

Witcher 3 is a little overrated but saying that the Codex is like Reddit is a bit much.

Not really. So far on the Codex I witnessed,

• people who dont even play RPGs
• people who arent remotely interested in discussing RPGs
• people with bad taste
• shills
• 50, 60 year old people with bad taste, which is particularly sad
• people driven insane by their obsession with politics and racial theory
• furies and SJWs
• weaboos who are proud of their mental illness
• actual people who performed sex changes on themselves
• openly bisexual men
• grown men who want to fuck other men
• grown men who want to fuck male video characters

Wow your a spiteful bigoted prick aren't you. This threads existance is nothing more then your pathetic attempt to look bad ass and elite.

 

[Semiurge]

I still remember the unassisted anticipation we had for it.

 

[†††]

Would have liked it more if it was more of a CYOA, the C&C is pretty disappointing, it's all flavor choices. So not a RPG, not even a CYOA, just a good visual novel.

 

[Zariusz]

Do you people really need to make new thread every time you want to bitch about Witcher 3?
Witcher 3 is a good game but a bad RPG, now go and find something more interesting to do.
Like replaying Age Of Decadence or Underrail.

 

[Duralux for Durabux]

Do you people really need to make new thread every time you want to bitch about Witcher 3?
Witcher 3 is a good bad game but a bad RPG, now go and find something more interesting to do.
Like replaying Age Of Decadence or Underrail.

The gameplay is the worst part of the game. If witcher 3 is a bad rpg(in my opinion it's an average rpg not the game of century everyone is bitching about, supposedly the rpg element(story,roleplay,etc...) is the best part of the game if you say otherwise,that means everything in it is bad .(You are little incoherent do you?)

 

[Wilian]

If we're being entirely honest this formerly prestigious publication lost it's prestige primarly because of the people who joined in from January 15th of 2011 onwards. They truly brought the decline with them. The Golden Age of expansion ended that day.

 

[Ismaul]

Truth is we love decline. Who would we be without decline to rage at?

 

[luj1]

Unfortunately Witcher 3 a CPRG, though it would be better if it wasn't. "Go kill some level 10 bandits", "Wow, you've killed King of the Wild Hunt? You must be pretty strong! Now go kill thoses lvl 80 bandits!". What in the world is this garbage. It's a good game all things considered, but all the RPG elements just drag down the entire experience. It would be so much better if it was just an open-word action game.

Witcher 3 plays like a SP MMO.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Would have liked it more if it was more of a CYOA, the C&C is pretty disappointing, it's all flavor choices. So not a RPG, not even a CYOA, just a good visual novel.

Please don't badmouth visual novels. If visual novels you get completely different endings and scenarios depending on which route you take. In DE you get to chose between Kim saying that despite being a Nazi you are still a great cop or Kim saying that despite being a Commie you are still a great cop.
Disco Elysium is a really good point and click adventure game with really simple puzzles.