Review RPGDot: Biggest Dissapointment and Surprise RPGs of 2004

[POOPERSCOOPER]

If you do anything negative towards exitium he will edit it but he lets everything else go.

 

[Jed]

Why is that funny? If you consider that funny you must really laugh your ass off everytime you read the news paper. "WOW THATS FUNNY, THERES A PARADE IN THE CITY TODAY. HA HA"

Get a dictionary.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Cry.

 

[Shagnak]

...another derailed thread...

(steps over puddles of e-spunk emitted from engorged e-penises)

STAY BACK...NOTHING TO SEE HERE...

 

[Screaming_life]

oops. sorry, wrong room!

 

[Sol Invictus]

We can still talk about the proper subject. I notice how they awarded the most Dissapointing RPG of 2004 to DX:IW. A well deserved title, I should think. That game came as a complete dissapointment to all the fans because it got rid of all the RPG aspects of the previous game, like the skill advancement, 'mission objectives' and proper dialogue choices.

The loading times and the tiny maps didn't help either. The original game had maps 3 times larger and the loading times were fairly quick. The fact that the maps were so small in DXIW meant you had to spend a lot of time looking at the damn loading screen every time you wanted to do anything or go anywhere. That GUI sucked ass, too.

What the hell was Harvey thinking?

 

[Jed]

Cry.

Who to? I know Saint won't do a thing.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Derailment. It must be a habit with you, Patrick and Pooper.

 

[Jed]

Derailment. It must be a habit with you, Patrick and Pooper.

Not if I'm responding in context to your post.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Since you've gotten that out of your system, can we resume discussion on the RPGDot award topic instead?

 

[Shagnak]

We can still talk about the proper subject. I notice how they awarded the most Dissapointing RPG of 2004 to DX:IW. A well deserved title, I should think. That game came as a complete dissapointment to all the fans because it got rid of all the RPG aspects of the previous game, like the skill advancement, 'mission objectives' and proper dialogue choices.

The loading times and the tiny maps didn't help either. The original game had maps 3 times larger and the loading times were fairly quick. The fact that the maps were so small in DXIW meant you had to spend a lot of time looking at the damn loading screen every time you wanted to do anything or go anywhere. That GUI sucked ass, too.

What the hell was Harvey thinking?

Yeah, for me the biggest disappointment with that game was the size of the maps. Pathetic! Hard to suspend disbelief when you are told a city is comprised of 3 or 4 small interconnected areas (some the size of rooms from the 1st game).
And what was he thinking? He was thinking "me want lotsa money, must make it more accessible to console n00bs". I don't know how they could have made the design decisions they made, and then refute the (what many think are) reasons why they seriously under-delivered to fans of the original.

Anyway, I actually bought that game (MUG ) and had to make sure I got the most out of it. It was okay, enjoyable as far as fps's go, but worth the money I paid? Nope. Should have hired an xbox and played the game over a weekend.
And a worthy successor to the original? Hell no.

I still liked Thief3 though - despite it suffering from a similar "small areas" problem.

 

[Jed]

Since you've gotten that out of your system, can we resume discussion on the RPGDot award topic instead?

Yes. Or alternately, you could just edit this post to say whatever pleases you most.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Or you could just drop it and behave mature for once, Jed. I'm asking you nicely. There's nothing I can do if you decide not to, anyhow. I'm not going to delete you, ban you, or fuck with your posts (Once was enough.) I'm appealing to your sense of maturity, so what you decide to do in spite of my appeals is your choice. It will reflect on you as a person.

In turn, I'll clean up my act, but reciprocity is a two way street.

 

[Sol Invictus]

*snip*

Eidos was understandably very displeased with the results of Deus Ex IW, too. The new CEO guy places the blame solely on Ion Storm for thinking they knew what was best, refusing to listen to the fans, and refusing to listen to their parent company (Eidos). The fans knew what they wanted: a sequel to Deus Ex, but Ion Storm thought they could make a big profit by appealing to the lowest common denominator, despite the fact that even Halo and Metroid Prime never stooped so low.

Ion Storm really dropped the ball on that game.

 

[Seven]

It's the only one. But hey, you got tubgirled. Twice! You and Pooper love derailing my threads. Get a life. If this were any other forum you'd be warned by now. Don't be so damn bitter, Jed. It is all in good fun, remember?

Don't you think that you bring it upon yourself, and that you actively derail threads when you post something like:

I'm sure someone with severe reading comprehension disability is going to say I flip flopped on this, somehow.

*Waits...*

 

[gromit]

I don't see how Bloodlines came up as much of a surprise at all, given the massive amount of information that was floating around pre-release. Anyone who thought Troika incapable of dialogue trees and role-playing based on exclusion from ToEE was being a little silly.

If anything, I was surprised at how often I didn't have to use combat, and, sadly, how many bugs lingered after the game had been in limbo for however long.

 

[Sarkile]

How mature is Jed supposed to act? Mature enough to fly around the forums abusing his admin powers by editing people's posts all willy nilly? Don't you think you should begin acting mature yourself before asking it of others?
Watch my post turn into goatse.cx.

 

[Greatatlantic]

If anything, I was surprised at how often I didn't have to use combat, and, sadly, how many bugs lingered after the game had been in limbo for however long.

That was a false rumor. Bloodlines was an RPG (more complicated then a FPS), Troika had less than half the staff than Valve, and they lacked the first hand knowledge the Source code. Furthermore, they started concept stuff later. It is sort of silly to expect Troika to finish their game before Valve could. If Half Life 2 hadn't been delayed, I'd lay money down that Bloodlines would still have been delayed.

 

[Sol Invictus]

How mature is Jed supposed to act? Mature enough to fly around the forums abusing his admin powers by editing people's posts all willy nilly? Don't you think you should begin acting mature yourself before asking it of others?
Watch my post turn into goatse.cx.

Well I dont think its funny that 90% of his posts responding to me consisted of insults against me and not real arguments. Is that mature? I don't think it's mature for you to join in in his 'defense' (as if he needs it. He can speak for himself) just so you can insult me, Sarkile. So, what would you have me do? Behave maturely and 'do nothing' to set some ridiculous example while others walk all over me? No, that will not do. Compromise is a two way street. I don't do anything to insult others, and I try to be as inoffensive and polite as possible to people whom I disagree with these days, so I would appreciate if people showed some restraint as well. Insulting me for the sake of insulting me doesn't contribute to the thread. Instead, legitimate arguments can be made without petty insults, personal remarks or whatever. If you disagree with something I say, state so, and why, and offer a counterpoint. Saying "FLIP FLOP!" or worse, a racialist remark after every post I make is immature, and you'd be blind not to see that.

p.s. stop derailing. Jed already settled it awhile back, so don't bring it up anymore.

 

[Astromarine]

y'know, it's not the flaming that gets me. This is the Codex, and I'm a big boy. That's what I come her for.


It's just that I used to be able to count on you guys to do *intelligent*, *funny* flaming.

 

[Avé]

y'know, it's not the flaming that gets me. This is the Codex, and I'm a big boy. That's what I come her for.


It's just that I used to be able to count on you guys to do *intelligent*, *funny* flaming.

Fez still does, he's me hero

 

[Noviere]

I was both surprised and disappointed by the fact that Bloodlines let you create a socially-focused character and then made you completely useless halfway through the game.

Three cheers for cheat codes!

 

[mrmarcus]

Bloodlines deserved both mentions. Surprise for how good the first half of the game was, disappointment for the atrocity called the endgame.

 

[Jed]

The irony was that I intended the original flip-flop post in this thread to be friendly...

 

[Major_Blackhart]

*snip*

Eidos was understandably very displeased with the results of Deus Ex IW, too. The new CEO guy places the blame solely on Ion Storm for thinking they knew what was best, refusing to listen to the fans, and refusing to listen to their parent company (Eidos). The fans knew what they wanted: a sequel to Deus Ex, but Ion Storm thought they could make a big profit by appealing to the lowest common denominator, despite the fact that even Halo and Metroid Prime never stooped so low.

Ion Storm really dropped the ball on that game.

That's interesting to know. I know that Eidos was plenty pissed with how the game went in terms of sales and such, but the fact that the CEO said that Ion Storm should have listened to their fans. I wish other higher ups would say that. Reminds me. Someone should make a Deus Ex mod for HL2.