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Never understood the appeal of games like Carmageddon or Postal.
It's always seemed to me that a person needed to be at least a bit unhinged already to enjoy this kind of shit.
You'd love the game if you had to pay a penalty for each killed human and destroyed car?
Nope.
Actually, I might like the gameplay *IF* it was framed in a different context, it's just that I don't enjoy overt psycho sims, the closest I have come to enjoying one was Blood, but lolslaughtering random fucks was never the point in Blood, at worst it was instrumental, at best either incidental or involving mimes.
Postal and Carmageddon has some appeal if you're an angsty teen and never seen any sick shit on teh webz. I can't imagine myself playing this right now. Killing civilians and wrecking shit up - meh.
 

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Postal and Carmageddon has some appeal if you're an angsty teen and never seen any sick shit on teh webz. I can't imagine myself playing this right now. Killing civilians and wrecking shit up - meh.

How far up your own ass do you have to be to judge that someone else's enjoyment of a game is not as valid as the entertainment you get from the games you like?
 

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Postal and Carmageddon has some appeal if you're an angsty teen and never seen any sick shit on teh webz. I can't imagine myself playing this right now. Killing civilians and wrecking shit up - meh.

How far up your own ass do you have to be to judge that someone else's enjoyment of a game is not as valid as the entertainment you get from the games you like?
:butthurt:
 

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Postal and Carmageddon has some appeal if you're an angsty teen and never seen any sick shit on teh webz. I can't imagine myself playing this right now. Killing civilians and wrecking shit up - meh.

How far up your own ass do you have to be to judge that someone else's enjoyment of a game is not as valid as the entertainment you get from the games you like?
Why can't I judge other's actions and reactions? De gustibus very much est disputandum in my book.

Odds are what you like is shit.
 

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As expected from the usual dumbfucks.
Don't get so butthurt, we don't choose what we like :D

Might as well explain what do you like about games which sole purpose of killing "innocent" people?

It's a racing game where you can trash other cars with relatively elaborate collision and driving physics and in which you're also rewarded for wrecking stuff - human, incidentally - in a gratuitous way.

I just don't see what's not to like, or what drives you to call it a game for 'angsty teens', being that there's no reason why adults can't enjoy random violence. I don't give you shit for playing Everlasting Summer, nor do I call you a basement dwelling virgin just because you like to interact with fake, stereotypical 'girls' written by some neckbeard russian.
 

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I enjoy Postal and Carmageddon from time to time, because sometimes I want to wreck shit up without 'stop right there, you criminal scum' and other restrictions. Consider it a small dose of violence to balance out the boredom/non-violence of other games.

Not to mention that I'm blowing off the steam from days of work/studies, because 4+ hours of interaction with random people make me want to punch these people in the face.
 

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I dig the violence in Carmageddon, but to be honest what made me love it was the driving gameplay with great collision physics (for it's time) and awesome open levels.
 

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As expected from the usual dumbfucks.
Don't get so butthurt, we don't choose what we like :D

Might as well explain what do you like about games which sole purpose of killing "innocent" people?

It's a racing game where you can trash other cars with relatively elaborate collision and driving physics and in which you're also rewarded for wrecking stuff - human, incidentally - in a gratuitous way.

I just don't see what's not to like, or what drives you to call it a game for 'angsty teens', being that there's no reason why adults can't enjoy random violence.
Yeah, Carmageddon is not a good example - it's still a racing game after all, unique because of all the reasons you wrote.

But Postal 1 was potato-quality and only about killing civilians - not accidental at all. What about it?

I don't give you shit for playing Everlasting Summer, nor do I call you a basement dwelling virgin just because you like to interact with fake, stereotypical 'girls' written by some neckbeard russian.
I just made a general statement, you went to my Steam profile and wrote some very specific shit - just shows your butthurt level :D

The game was crap overall, some points for the eerie atmosphere and legally playing a hentai VN on Steam.
 

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Come on bro, your steam profile is right there, and clicking on your games takes all of five seconds. It's not butthurt - you know what I like, I wanted to see where you were coming from.

Never played Postal so I won't defend it, my thing is with Carma. I liked the game when I was younger and I still do. Gratuitous violence is not something all that common and, if it's inserted into fun gameplay, I'm all for it.

This whole discussion prolly takes the 2015 useless bickering over nothing February award anyway.
 

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Come on bro, your steam profile is right there, and clicking on your games takes all of five seconds. It's not butthurt - you know what I like, I wanted to see where you were coming from.

Never played Postal so I won't defend it, my thing is with Carma. I liked the game when I was younger and I still do. Gratuitous violence is not something all that common and, if it's inserted into fun gameplay, I'm all for it.

This whole discussion prolly takes the 2015 useless bickering over nothing February award anyway.
Yeah, if you didn't play Postal then indeed it was over nothing.

PS Alt-tabbing to write crashed my CS session, can't rejoin :)
 

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Boiled in Lead go with the Caucasus finish off Britain later.

P. much. I'd rather trudge through mountains than do an invasion from the sea.

At least I get lots of cannon fodder in Russia.
 

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I meant cartoony violence and conversations.
Wot cartony violence?

Carmageddon wasn't more brutal than a lot of games both before and after it - possibly majority of games.
It's just in most of those games the violence isn't as senseless or at least can be reciprocated.

Come on bro, your steam profile is right there, and clicking on your games takes all of five seconds. It's not butthurt - you know what I like, I wanted to see where you were coming from.
You still took your time clicking on it and going for "a u was biją murzynów!" defense rather than staying on topic - looks like butthurt to me.

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Carmageddon was cool because it was the first driving game that really allowed people to drive into other people.

Destruction Derby had previously allowed cars to hit other cars intentionally, but I can't say I remember the "physics" of that game being any fun.

Carmageddon not only had awesome physics, but the powerups also messed with them, which is another big plus.

Compare that to Car & Driver, which allowed you to drive fancy sports cars in magazine-esque environments - because the environments were exactly that. All appearance, no substance.

You could spot cows grazing by the side of the road. "Hey, let's plow into that heifer!" I exclaimed, finally seeing a soft target that could possibly provide some meager entertainment from what is otherwise a 'fancy' driving simulator. But no, the developers (Lerner Research, who merged with Blue Sky Productions just after making this game to form Looking Glass Studios) decided that cows were to be comprised of an mixture of granite, adamantium and 'Nope!' The recoil from hitting Kal-El's priced bovine in a sportscar during 300 mph is quite extraordinary. And, of course, 100% fatal.
 
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I meant cartoony violence and conversations.
Wot cartony violence?

Carmageddon wasn't more brutal than a lot of games both before and after it - possibly majority of games.
It's just in most of those games the violence isn't as senseless or at least can be reciprocated.
Cartoony violence = waves/cool particles/some kind of shit coming out of the human or creature instead of blood and disappearance or running away instead of dying. Way to tell about consequences of hitting someone with a knife.

That's why I enjoy these games and watching crime news.
 

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I meant cartoony violence and conversations.
Wot cartony violence?

Carmageddon wasn't more brutal than a lot of games both before and after it - possibly majority of games.
It's just in most of those games the violence isn't as senseless or at least can be reciprocated.
Cartoony violence = waves/cool particles/some kind of shit coming out of the human or creature instead of blood and disappearance or running away instead of dying.
Well, yeah, pretty much all sprite-based FPS games were excessively gory, quite a few fully 3D ones as well. Then there were other genres.

Unless exclusively vehicular conflict centered games usually had at least some blood and gore in the PC era, so again, wots this cartoony violence you keep talking about?
 

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I meant cartoony violence and conversations.
Wot cartony violence?

Carmageddon wasn't more brutal than a lot of games both before and after it - possibly majority of games.
It's just in most of those games the violence isn't as senseless or at least can be reciprocated.
Cartoony violence = waves/cool particles/some kind of shit coming out of the human or creature instead of blood and disappearance or running away instead of dying.
Well, yeah, pretty much all sprite-based FPS games were excessively gory, quite a few fully 3D ones as well. Then there were other genres.

Unless exclusively vehicular conflict centered games usually had at least some blood and gore in the PC era, so again, wots this cartoony violence you keep talking about?
Re-roll your reading comprehension, cartoony polack. I was talking about Carmageddon and Postal while comparing them to other games, where violence is extremely cartoony (thanks to producers who tried to sell those to 13-years-old kiddos).
 

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Games like Postal and Carmageddon are fun because you kill unarmed innocents.
Careful, JF, that nazi mindset is speaking through you again. :P

other games, where violence is extremely cartoony (thanks to producers who tried to sell those to 13-years-old kiddos).
You still refused to list any of those.
 

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