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balmorar

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Doom 2

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Riskbreaker

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Excellent fifth episode of Valiant, basically looks and plays very much like a sequel to Lunatic.
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Also, thanks in part to Accept's excellent Steam recommendation :salute: , I've been playing some Kingpin, also known as Rape Simulator 99 (as in player being constantly and brutally raped by pretty much everything, including the local rat population).
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r3jonwah85

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Still waiting for the sequel

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(Not really, a present-day dev would most likely transform the series into popamole garbage)

What the hell happened to this type of game design? Shooters that were actually fun, had nice level design (sometimes abstract but fun nonetheless), fluid motion and nice gun play. I recently played Far Cry 3 with a buddy just for the sake of coop but the movement, gun play and smeary image effects got me feeling a bit sick actually, and it is not really satisfying to blow people up. And Far Cry 3 is supposed to be one of the better ones. I mean, game engines are supposed to be more advanced and somewhat limitless nowadays, is it the case that big time studios just insist to keep making crappy feeling games and people buy it or do people really like this stuff that much? Recently been playing Soldier of Fortune, Quake, Doom, Heretic, Hexen 1/2, Clive Barkers Undying, C&C Renegade, Kingpin, Jedi Outcast, Red Faction, Sin and some other stuff, all of these just FEEL so much better. Or am I finally getting old...

And to cap this pointless post off, does anybody have some nice recommendations on forgotten gems? Started to collect FPS games the last year and feel the need to add something to the collection.
 

Astral Rag

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And to cap this pointless post off, does anybody have some nice recommendations on forgotten gems? Started to collect FPS games the last year and feel the need to add something to the collection.


Not all forgotten gems but here are some FPS that are not your list:

Wolf3D and Spear of Destiny, don't forget to try out the free Macenstein
Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold and Blake Stone: Planet Strike, just play the sequel if you're only going to play one
Rise of the Triad (google WinRott)
Marathon, I never was a big fan of the series but they're definitely not bad games
STRIFE, make sure to disable all the popamole features if you end up getting the recent re-release.
Doom 64 TC
Dark Forces (google DarkXL) and Dark Forces 2
CyberMage
The Terminator: Future Shock and Skynet
Outlaws, see our unofficial patch thread for info on how to run it on a modern OS.
Blood, check out http://blood.nanoaugur.net/
DN3D then try Shadow Warrior if you want to play with Duke's brother from another mother. The re-releases are ok, just don't use the "smooth" filter
Duke Nukem Forever
Redneck Rampage, Witchaven 1 and 2 , TekWar, NAM and World War II GI are all pretty mediocre but you might find some enjoyment in them
Powerslave (aka Exhumed) is another decent build engine game, the PSX version uses another, more advanced engine and is also worth checking out
Realms of the Haunting, make sure you play the patched us version (google Transformation Patch)
Chasm: The Rift, this "Quake clone" uses an interesting engine, it's not a great game though
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Unreal (use Kentie's renderer)
Unreal Tournament (same)
Quake 3, at least finish the SP campaign on Nightmare and become a better person
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
NOLF 1 and 2, good games despite IMO rather mediocre gunplay
Aliens VS Predator, tastefully re-released as AvP Classic 2000
FEAR + expansion packs, 2 is a bad FEAR game and 3 is irredeemable trash


Then there are tons of great custom maps for Doom and Quake.
 
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Baron Dupek

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Lemme guess... picking bitches from CF?

Another episode of Dicking with Emulation.
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NDS version looks better, have more characters but hidden switches are slighty harder to notice. On GBA they looks like those from Legends of Grimrock. On NdS they're ordinary brick but slighty brighter, so you end clicking everywhere.
I got sensible chuckle when I did first quest (yep, it's about rats in the basement), looted it and asked for reward. Old lady goes down and see that I stole everything, get mad. Did it again, told "Urm, I found few coins down there", she tell "It's yours". And you go outside with pack of poisoning leafs, magic rings and 5 coins.
 

potatojohn

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How's Cata DDA shaping up these days? Been a while since I took a look at it. Are NPCs functional and/or good yet? That was one thing I always hoped they'd improve.
They don't crash any more, anyway. There's a kind of NPC outpost now, and you can do a bunch of quests for them and trade. But no revolutionary changes.

Edit: Poked my head in at their forum and had a little looksee. As usual they were talking about dildos. I wonder if all roguelike communities are like that, never looked at any DoomRL/Nethack/DCSS forums. Dwarf Fortress forums at least are about making giant obsidian lava-spewing cocks to fire off over elves.
Yeah gaming forums tend to be full of weirdos (self-awareness level: -100)
 

CryptRat

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Another episode of Dicking with Emulation.
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Mazes of Fate (NDS)

NDS version looks better, have more characters but hidden switches are slighty harder to notice. On GBA they looks like those from Legends of Grimrock. On NdS they're ordinary brick but slighty brighter, so you end clicking everywhere.
I got sensible chuckle when I did first quest (yep, it's about rats in the basement), looted it and asked for reward. Old lady goes down and see that I stole everything, get mad. Did it again, told "Urm, I found few coins down there", she tell "It's yours". And you go outside with pack of poisoning leafs, magic rings and 5 coins.

I didn't know this game. Added to my (big) list of games to play. Probably the NDS version...on NDS.
 
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Great way to start a dungeon crawler, by immediately putting on cursed equipment.

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Thriller Zombies keep hitting me with Level Drain. It can remove all of your memorized spells, very troublesome for a Fighter/Cleric/Mage. :rpgcodex:

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Nice, even more level-draining monsters...

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And now... a floor with high-defense and high-attack ghost knights. Pretty sure they're hasted, too.

Barnacles the Pirate eventually met his end on this floor. Tried to escape using an Amulet of Imminent Return, but instead of teleporting me to the beginning of the level, I warped back my most recently used teleporter which was surrounded by monsters. Too many level drains made him stay weak throughout.

Started a new character...
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Gauntlets of Fire Giant Strength dropped on floor 2 :yeah:

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A Staff of Smiting +3, a scroll of Improved Invisiblity and Robes of the Archmagi dropped by floor 4 :yeah: This is a promising run.

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Multi-headed Cow

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You aren't using Cow Approved Cheese for a Dungeon Hack cleric. You gotta use two spiritual hammers because they return to your hands when thrown, then turn the game in to Serious Sam and start circle strafing!
 

r3jonwah85

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And to cap this pointless post off, does anybody have some nice recommendations on forgotten gems? Started to collect FPS games the last year and feel the need to add something to the collection.


Not all forgotten gems but here are some FPS that are not your list:

Wolf3D and Spear of Destiny, don't forget to try out the free Macenstein
Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold and Blake Stone: Planet Strike, just play the sequel if you're only going to play one
Rise of the Triad (google WinRott)
Marathon, I never was a big fan of the series but they're definitely not bad games
STRIFE, make sure to disable all the popamole features if you end up getting the recent re-release.
Doom 64 TC
Dark Forces (google DarkXL) and Dark Forces 2
CyberMage
The Terminator: Future Shock and Skynet
Outlaws, see our unofficial patch thread for info on how to run it on a modern OS.
Blood, check out http://blood.nanoaugur.net/
DN3D then try Shadow Warrior if you want to play with Duke's brother from another mother. The re-releases are ok, just don't use the "smooth" filter
Duke Nukem Forever
Redneck Rampage, Witchaven 1 and 2 , TekWar, NAM and World War II GI are all pretty mediocre but you might find some enjoyment in them
Powerslave (aka Exhumed) is another decent build engine game, the PSX version uses another, more advanced engine and is also worth checking out
Realms of the Haunting, make sure you play the patched us version (google Transformation Patch)
Chasm: The Rift, this "Quake clone" uses an interesting engine, it's not a great game though
HλLF-LIFE
Unreal (use Kentie's renderer)
Unreal Tournament (same)
Quake 3, at least finish the SP campaign on Nightmare and become a better person
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
NOLF 1 and 2, good games despite IMO rather mediocre gunplay
Aliens VS Predator, tastefully re-released as AvP Classic 2000
FEAR + expansion packs, 2 is a bad FEAR game and 3 is irredeemable trash


Then there are tons of great custom maps for Doom and Quake.

Thanks! I have almost half of those already in physical copies, the ones I do not have unfortunately cost to much compared to the gameplay value you get (if not the shipping often kills the deal since I want the big box version if available). Might bite the bullet and buy some of them like Strife and Exhumed, also there is a nice big box version of Skynet for sale here in Sweden so might snag that one too. Other than that I think I have played all of them except Blake Stone, Realms of the Haunting (which seems recommended) and some of the shittier Build engine games. Might add some more games from my shelf to the list if anybody else is reading it:

Star Trek Elite Force 1 & 2
Painkiller (at least main game and first expansion)
XIII
Project IGI 1 & 2 (not really mow everything down kind of shooter but still somewhat from that time line)
Star Wars Republic Commando
Gunman Chronicles
Star Trek Klingon Honor Guard
SHOGO: MAD
Turok 1 & 2
Far Cry 1
Wheel of Time (forgot this one first)

And I have mentioned this in this very thread before, but Quake is such a masterpiece with mind blowing levels still coming out, so I play that every week pretty much. Doom gets some love as well but the level design is often so much more intricate in Quake which appeals to m (and the music is so perfectly fitting). Might start a new thread about this topic instead, so much stuff to talk about :)
 
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