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[warpig]

phuturistik racing :3

You should try F-Zero GX. Pretty much the best racing game of this type.

Never played any F-Zero games since they are exclusive to nintendo consoles. I don't think anything can beat Wipeout in this genre though.

 

[Viata]

Never played any F-Zero games since they are exclusive to nintendo consoles

What do you have against emulators?

 

[warpig]

Nothing, I use emulators for PSX and PS2. I just never looked into nintendo games too much.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Nintendo emulators run much better than PS emulators. After all the Switch already has a near stable emulator.
Since GX is for the GameCube you'll have to use Dolphin. IMO, GX is still better and harder than the newer Wipeouts.

And the OST is definitively better:

 

[warpig]

Wipeout games imo have much better music than the stuff you posted.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Beg to differ. Too slow and not as intense.

EDIT:
In fact looking at direct comparisons, this seems exactly Wipeout's problem.



The cars aren't near as fast, there isn't as many racers, and the tracks aren't as difficult to navigate.

 

[Modron]

The Nintendo 64 actually had a handful of pretty great racing games in Podracer, F-zero, and Extreme G 1 and 2.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Beg to differ. Too slow and not as intense.

EDIT:
In fact looking at direct comparisons, this seems exactly Wipeout's problem.



The cars aren't near as fast, there isn't as many racers, and the tracks aren't as difficult to navigate.

Warpig was only referencing the soundtrack, not the games themselves. The earliest Wipeout titles (at least) have a kick-ass soundtrack that transcended the gaming scene back in the day.

But since we're talking about the games, the video you linked to is comparing a 2003 Gamecube title with a 2007 Playstation Portable title. It's a given that a game on a handheld console will not perform as well as on a dedicated console.

I'm not saying Wipeout has the better, faster racing games. Just that the comparison you listed isn't fair and balanced.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Warpig was only referencing the soundtrack, not the games themselves.

I know. And the first line of my post was directed at the OST. The EDIT, was the one direct at the games themselves.

the video you linked to is comparing a 2003 Gamecube title with a 2007 Playstation Portable title. It's a given that a game on a handheld console will not perform as well as on a dedicated console ... the comparison you listed isn't fair and balanced.

Alright fair enough.

Here's a comparison between F-Zero GX (GameCube) and WipEout HD (PS3).

 

[warpig]

I don't really see how F-Zero is 'better' by looking at this video. The track design doesn's seem better and it's hard to tell how the vechicles handle and if driving them and mastering the controls is fun etc. It kind of seems like F Zero ships kind of have less weight to them which makes me think the "driving" mechanics aren't as fun as in Wipeout but that's just a guess . Style-wise Wipeout looks and sounds waaaaay more appealing to me

 

[Endemic]

Time for some more Berwick Saga.

Spoiler

Not everyone makes a good knight:

Reflected by the fact every playable female unit (bar one) in the game is biased towards the speed stat rather than defense or attack. But that's okay, because you can make Enid a kick-ass mage instead after some training:

The Eagle Brace gives a small but welcome boost to accuracy.

Let's take a closer look at that spell:

You can see why it's limited to 10 uses (24 total, counting the remaining 7 chapters in the game - 1 chapter can consist of multiple battles).

Fire > ice.

Observe the power of Saint Leia.

Terminated.

Excellent, more magic (considering the low stat caps and growths in this game, every point counts).

 

[adddeed]

 

[Melcar]

Nintendo emulators run much better than PS emulators. After all the Switch already has a near stable emulator.
Since GX is for the GameCube you'll have to use Dolphin. IMO, GX is still better and harder than the newer Wipeouts.

And the OST is definitively better:

Wipeout games imo have much better music than the stuff you posted.

Beg to differ. Too slow and not as intense.

EDIT:
In fact looking at direct comparisons, this seems exactly Wipeout's problem.


The cars aren't near as fast, there isn't as many racers, and the tracks aren't as difficult to navigate.

I know. And the first line of my post was directed at the OST. The EDIT, was the one direct at the games themselves.



Alright fair enough.

Here's a comparison between F-Zero GX (GameCube) and WipEout HD (PS3).

I have played both series. Not all entries, but enough to consider myself a fan of both. I prefer Wipeout in terms of style/setting, track layout, and music. Wipeout always seems to have a more Industrial and gritty cyberpunkish look, while F-Zero was just a more light futuristic hover craft racer with a rather bland style in comparison (Extreme G had them beat both in terms of style in my opinion). I always found Wipeout games harder to master, with the crafts having actual physics to them and the race tracks being more creative in their layout (in terms of curves and bends). F-Zero tracks just seemed on average more straight forward and not as difficult to maneuver (which often leads to a greater sense of speed). Wipeout was famous for including samples of music by popular Electronic bands along with their generic techno tunes, so it really depends on your preferences.
Right now I'm having a blast with BallisticNG and I'm being reminded how not so easy it was to master the tracks and hovercrafts in Wipeout. Redout I think had the same problem as F-Zero, which prompted me to just set it aside.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

F-Zero was just a more light futuristic hover craft racer with a rather bland style in comparison

F-Zero style is reminiscent of American comic books:

Spoiler

And like you said, F-Zero is a Futuristic setting (which I think it suits better this type of game).

I always found Wipeout games harder to master, with the crafts having actual physics to them and the race tracks being more creative in their layout (in terms of curves and bends). F-Zero tracks just seemed on average more straight forward and not as difficult to maneuver (which often leads to a greater sense of speed).

Now this is where I strongly disagree. F-Zero is infamous for being very difficult.
WipEout tracks are more narrow and posses more curves, while in GX the tracks have much less rails and more sharp turns.
Sure GX has wider tracks but that's because you're running against 29 other cars and because you go much much faster - if you play really well at Wipeout you barely reach supersonic speed, while in GX if you play really well you can reach Mach 3. And imagine making sharp turns whithout any rails at 1500km/h while other cars bump into you, pushing you, damaging your shield and momentarily making you lose control of your car. You have much more precise and careful as single mistake can take you from the top to the bottom in an instant, or taking you off course which will immediately retire you, or even destroy your car.

Further comparison:





I think it's obvious in terms of Skill Cap, GX is the winner.

Also even the dude that recorded the comparison video in my earlier post, stated in the video description that GX is much harder to play.

I don't really see how F-Zero is 'better' by looking at this video.

Then play it. It's just 1.2Gb (download it at Portal Roms). And Dolphin is very light and well optimized.
Also while you're at it you could look into some other Nintendo classics.

 

[bertram_tung]

F-Zero was just a more light futuristic hover craft racer with a rather bland style in comparison

F-Zero style is reminiscent of American comic book:

Spoiler

And like you said, f-Zero is a Futuristic setting (which I think it suits better this type of game).

I always found Wipeout games harder to master, with the crafts having actual physics to them and the race tracks being more creative in their layout (in terms of curves and bends). F-Zero tracks just seemed on average more straight forward and not as difficult to maneuver (which often leads to a greater sense of speed).

Now this is where I strongly disagree. F-Zero is infamous for being very difficult.
WipEout tracks are more narrow and posses more curves, while in GX the tracks have much less much and more sharp turns.
Sure GX has wider tracks but that's because you're running against 29 other cars and because you go much much faster - if you play really well at Wipeout you barely reach supersonic speed, while in GX if you play really well you can reach Mach 3. And imagine making sharp turns whithout any rails at 1500km/h while other cars bump into you, pushing you, damaging your shield and momentarily making you lose control of your car. You have much more precise and careful as single mistake can take you from the top to the bottom in an instant, or taking you off course which will immediately retire you, or even destroying your car.

Further comparison:





I think it's obvious in terms of Skill Cap, GX is the winner.

Also even the dude that recorded the comparison video in my earlier post, stated in the video description that GX is much harder to play.

I don't really see how F-Zero is 'better' by looking at this video.

Then play it. It's just 1.2Gb (download it at Portal Roms). And Dolphin is very light and well optimized.
Also while you're at it you could look into some other Nintendo classics.

i just want to thank you for your service

 

[PulsatingBrain]

Wipeout games imo have much better music than the stuff you posted.

I remember being blown away by Wipeout 2097's soundtrack. I wasn't even that into electronic music at the time, but it was crazy to be hearing tracks that my brother would by playing on CD, in a game. At the time it was a crazy novelty to me

 

[The Decline]

I vastly prefer Wipeout simply because it has weapons and power ups. Pure racers bore me to tears.

 

[sardonix]

This bore you to tears?:

 

[The Decline]

Yes.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Found a stash of pics from 2013-2014, featuring Jim the Dinosaur, Angelo85, RK47 and a few more bois.

...and that's how we lost our main source of guns and hoes.

 

[agentorange]

stuff about f-zero and wipeout

The F-Zero soundtracks are fine, but they are more goofy and for the most part standard video game fare. There are some standout tracks among the GX OST, like Cosmo Terminal and Mute City, but a lot of forgettable tracks as well. On the other hand the Wipeout soundtracks saw contributions by some of the very best electronic musicians in the world at the time (and still for that matter), including Aphex Twin, LFO, Fluke, The Chemical Brothers, The Prodigy, Daft Punk and on and on; it was, and remains on another fucking planet as far as electronic music soundtracks are concerned. Not to mention Cold Storage, in-house composer for Psygnosis who produced some phenomenal original tracks.







Wipeout has an entirely unique visual design style and feel to it as well, that is far more involved than that of F-Zero. We're talking about a series where the covers, for both the games and their soundtrack releases, were created by the Designer's Republic, one of the most influential graphic design houses in the 90s. And the in-game visuals were a perfect blend of that edgy 90s consumerism satire crossed with a sleek industrial design aesthetic. It's a more refined style than the childish, messy, and as you mentioned, comic book like style of F-Zero.

As for the gameplay, first of all you're linking videos by CGN who is one of the top speed runners of F-Zero GX in the world. This is a guy who plays the game so much that his hands develop blisters and bleed. This stuff doesn't apply to most people playing these games.

"I think it's obvious in terms of Skill Cap, GX is the winner."

Well, no, not really. Both of those players are playing at an extremely high skill level and making use of the respective game's mechanics to the utmost. Give CGN a copy of Wipeout and he's not going to do as well as the Wipeout guy, and vice versa. The GX run is more immediately superficially impressive because of things like snaking and breaking away from the track, whereas Wipeout is more about extended concentration and skill applied over a longer period of time. Just getting through a Wipeout track at nearly max speed without hitting a wall a single time is already impressive, it's just not as visually exciting.

 

[Bricker]

ACO

 

[HansDampf]

CGN abuses physics glitches (of which the game has plenty) and these are hard to control. Snaking can also damage your controller. The Master Class videos that sardonix posted are more representative of how the game is played.
Highly recommended and very challenging game to complete, unless you start abusing glitches.

looks good in 1080p

 

[octavius]

I have you now!
He said hopefully. Unfortunately, the plot armor is stong on this one.

 

[Maggot]

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