Shadowrun Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition

[Unbeliever]

He's an orc... go hard on him as much as you can!

Yeah, probably I should. Just to finish this damn working part of the day.

 

[SwiftCrack]

New orks look like shit imo. And some of their portraits, oh boy.

Backers always have to ruin everything.

As soon as I saw this guy:

I had to pick him.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

I have only seen the beginning of the game but from what I have seen people complaining about Duncan sort of remind me of people complaining about Blitz, who also got criticized for his 'annoying personality'. Blitz was a a good decker but insecure, sometimes a bit annoying and kinda socially awkward. In short, he was believably written and his flaws made him interesting. From what I have seen from Duncan he reacts pretty believably for a guy who almost gets killed and then his SIN and therefore whole identity and life taken away from him within minutes. If anything, his reaction is still pretty understated. Characters with flaws, characters with insecurities, characters who are different is what makes them interesting and gripping. Characters who react believably to these kind of situations makes the narrative griping. Not every runner can be a calm & collected überprofessional who cuts a dry one-liner even in the face of the most unexpected and disastrous events.

 

[Unbeliever]

So why Felicia Day is one of the hireable shadowrunners?

Dragon Age 2 team up?

Spoiler

 

[Ulminati]

It's pretty good so far. The Simon says game in the matrix is getting a little old, but at least the godawful matrix combat is rarer. If they had a few more types of obstacles to add variety, I would be content.

I don't get the hate for Wu. Guy just lost his gf and everything he worked for the last 8 years. Of course he's going to be butthurt. He men's up if you tell him to.

I've done the intro run, the wuxing run (which was almost a 1:1 carbon copy of a pen and paper run I wrote. I mentioned it somewhere in the kickstarter thread) and the soap opera run. They've all been pretty competent if a bit short. After a couple of false starts I eventually settled on a streetsammy who just got a monofilament whip installed. Looking forward to trying it out.

 

[naossano]

Already hating char ?
Shouldn't you wait for the seven reviews ?

 

[Jedi Exile]

So their idea of improving the Matrix was turning it into a stealth/hacking mini-game? Come on... Everything else seems to be great though. I even enjoy the Biowarian character interaction - because Harebrained is better at this shit than Bioware. HK is a very wordy game, and it is well-written.

 

[Infinitron]

10th place on Steam's Top Sellers list ATM. Seems like the Shadowrun games will continue to be middling sellers, but I guess that's good enough.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

10th place on Steam's Top Sellers list ATM. Seems like the Shadowrun games will continue to be middling sellers, but I guess that's good enough.

As long as they sell enough to make more

 

[Kem0sabe]

Just completed the first mission on the docks, was an interesting setup with the snipers if not in cover... Made for some urgency.

Couple of quick thoughts... The art is gorgeous as usual, as well as the sound design (them overhead flights), but the portraits and 3d models are still pretty bad, the rat shaman portrait is especially bad.

 

[Darth Roxor]

the rat shaman portrait is especially bad.

I think it's alright. Is0bel's, on the other hand, looks terrible to me.

Also, I don't know what to think of this nu-matrix.

 

[Ulminati]

Eh. DMS was good for what it was but was too narrow and linear. DF was still linear, but larger overall and had some more interesting fights like Apex. DFDC added more polish and some very welcome changes to combat that made it more interesting.

SR:HK so far has added some vareity to the matrix. (Still not good, but better than it was), has a solid gfx upgrade with nice little touches. You can trade items between party members and there's an option to start combat manually. And I've even had a couple of fights where the enemies used both their action points to cast spells.

It's not GOTY, but it's still a solid, small incremental improvement on DFDC. As long as HBS keeps improving slightly with every release, I'll keep buying these.

 

[Sykar]

:D A character that you hate can be great too, but there's a difference between "love to hate" and "he just sucks". From what Ninjerk is describing, the character in question just sucks. YMMV.

I do not think he sucks (yet). His reactions to the happenings at the start of the game are pretty logical imho. Of course it could be that his character development is horrendous but since I could not play much due to massive headaches last evening and some RL stuff this morning I have not been able to play very far.

I have only seen the beginning of the game but from what I have seen people complaining about Duncan sort of remind me of people complaining about Blitz, who also got criticized for his 'annoying personality'. Blitz was a a good decker but insecure, sometimes a bit annoying and kinda socially awkward. In short, he was believably written and his flaws made him interesting. From what I have seen from Duncan he reacts pretty believably for a guy who almost gets killed and then his SIN and therefore whole identity and life taken away from him within minutes. If anything, his reaction is still pretty understated. Characters with flaws, characters with insecurities, characters who are different is what makes them interesting and gripping. Characters who react believably to these kind of situations makes the narrative griping. Not every runner can be a calm & collected überprofessional who cuts a dry one-liner even in the face of the most unexpected and disastrous events.

This so much.

Also I am pretty certain if any of us couchpotatowarriors would be in Duncan's shoes we'd piss ourselves or whine/rage just as much. None of us would know how we'd react if our entire life went to hell and we'd basically be forced to erase it and cut all ties, especially if you have a lot of them left.

 

[Zombra]

Good to hear that they've changed the pacing of the matrix. Combat exactly like meatspace combat but with only one PC and fighting geometric shapes was pretty blah.

 

[Sykar]

Good to hear that they've changed the pacing of the matrix. Combat exactly like meatspace combat but with only one PC and fighting geometric shapes was pretty blah.

Well you had 3 turns for every turn in meatspace!

Spoiler

 

[Darth Roxor]

BTW, Drunkan is a BRO. Dialogues with him are hella cool.

 

[Zetor]

I think I found the kodex kontent. Was this added as part of the fundraiser campaign?

ICARUS FOUND YOU

e: what the heck, I'll add the one after it assimilates JiveBot (the poet AI, you may remember it from the slam poetry posts) into its hivemind:

(there's a lot more in there, including a serious discussion on AI emergence... but posting 20 images would've been overkill!)

 

[Duellist_D]

So, how much of an upgrade is the Mono-Whip over the other Cyberweapons?
I'm already multiclassing (main-melde, sniperrifle as backup, lvl 2 decking and will get a totem too)so i already have a basis for it.
I'm just not Sure if its worth shifting the focus to.
After going Assaultrifle main in all other SRR games, cybermelee is surprisingly viable and fun.

 

[Ulminati]

So, how much of an upgrade is the Mono-Whip over the other Cyberweapons?

Monowhip is something entirely different.
Spurs/razors use strength + melee combat for hit chance and cyber affinity for crit% and special attacks. They only hit adjacent enemies and damage is strength+x
Whip uses quickness+ranged combat for hit chance and cyber affinity for crit% and special attacks. It hits up to 7 tiles (I think it's 7) away, and damage is determined only by the whip, not your physical attributes.

The main attraction of the whip is that you get a "melee" option that keys off quickness and has more reach (and pretty good armor penetration). If you've already pumped strength and close combat for spurs/razors, the whip is not an upgrade because it won't sap action points and it'll do less damage than razors/spurs + high strength.

 

[ArchAngel]

So, how much of an upgrade is the Mono-Whip over the other Cyberweapons?
I'm already multiclassing (main-melde, sniperrifle as backup, lvl 2 decking and will get a totem too)so i already have a basis for it.
I'm just not Sure if its worth shifting the focus to.
After going Assaultrifle main in all other SRR games, cybermelee is surprisingly viable and fun.

For me it is opposite, I barely touched rifles in previous games so now I made a Rifle Street Samurai that will eventually be cyber-enhanced.

 

[Ulminati]

My cybersammie has really good hit/crit rate with the whip. Started by pumping ranged combat and rifles for sniper rifle. CLose rang eI switch to Ze Whip and I have ~90% hit chance on hard. It helps that I slotted (I think) Saeder-Krupp skillwires so my augmented quickness and ranged combat is 8. plus alphaware vision magnification eyes for the extra % to hit.

 

[Karwelas]

Just finished kidnapping mission, enjoyed it. Game is fucking amazing for now, incline just as Dragonfall. And missions just keep coming. Yeah, it is good. If Shadowrun games are drugs, I'm already addicted.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Im using whip with my decker, it is a good adition to my arsenal and make me feel like Johnny Mnemonic.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Why is there a felicia day npc runner? Makes me want to murder someone at HBS

 

[Cyberarmy]

Why is there a felicia day npc runner? Makes me want to murder someone at HBS

She is probably one of them big backers.