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People News SHOCKER: Chris Avellone leaves Obsidian Entertainment

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I don't if you realized but my post was supposed to be a joke.

Your joke wasn’t fun and it caried with it a noxious canard.

How do you know this?

How don’t you?

Are you a good writer? Or an experienced critic?

Does one have to be in order to be critical?

Which works do you like that tell rather than show?

Is it a sine qua non that I like it?

What context makes telling appropriate? How do you decide this?

Isn’t it obvious when you know the purpose of showing and telling?

Which bad writers have shared this?

It is relevant to the discussion? Do bad writers matter that much to you?

Which good writers do you like that generally tell more or equally as much as they show?

What about the good writers I don’t like?

Yes, PS:T is popular - it is in fact my #1 game. But you can't tell me there isn't a problem when everyone I am trying to get to play it quits because the mortuary doesn't engage them. It's either very niche in its appeal or the beginning could have been - I hate to use that word - more streamlined to be more accessible.

So the problem doesn’t lie with the audience but the game?

I do feel like the best parts if PS:T constantly show rather than tell.

How precise are your feelings on the matter?

The way Ravel treats you. The ending cutscene. The tone of voice of the voice actors. Deionarra's theme. Most item descriptions that tell you about the world indirectly rather than spewing exposition.

So all of this is part of the writing—the start of the dissension—and features no telling at all?
 
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Should have phrased the first reply in the form of question so you could be ten for ten.
 

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So, MCA and Sawyer butted heads too much or Fergus and MCA butted heads too much?
I've no interest in reading 58 pages to find out.

Whilst I know it's trendy to blame Sawyer for everything wrong at Obsidian, a project manager is not able to single handedly force out a co-owner of a company.
 

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Whilst I know it's trendy to blame Sawyer for everything wrong at Obsidian, a project manager is not able to single handedly force out a co-owner of a company.

but Sawyer wield the force of Balance and found MCA unbalanced so MCA had to flee to safety or else be balanced and be boring.
 

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So, MCA and Sawyer butted heads too much or Fergus and MCA butted heads too much?
I've no interest in reading 58 pages to find out.

Whilst I know it's trendy to blame Sawyer for everything wrong at Obsidian, a project manager is not able to single handedly force out a co-owner of a company.
Didn't Sawyer threaten to quit during the discussions about their Kickstarter project? That kind of drama usually leads to people having to pick sides and/or compromise, which generates more drama.
 

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I still remember snapping a guy's neck through dialogue and getting my first flood of memories. First hint that the game was going to be more than a typical rpg experience.

I remember that zombie, who had some kind of interdimensional pocket in his chest, that was amazing, also green steel dagger was so-so. ))
I think this miniquest is better show spirit of the game than anything else in Mortuary.
 
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So, MCA and Sawyer butted heads too much or Fergus and MCA butted heads too much?
I've no interest in reading 58 pages to find out.

Whilst I know it's trendy to blame Sawyer for everything wrong at Obsidian, a project manager is not able to single handedly force out a co-owner of a company.
Didn't Sawyer threaten to quit during the discussions about their Kickstarter project?
w0t

How do you know that?
 
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So, MCA and Sawyer butted heads too much or Fergus and MCA butted heads too much?
I've no interest in reading 58 pages to find out.

Whilst I know it's trendy to blame Sawyer for everything wrong at Obsidian, a project manager is not able to single handedly force out a co-owner of a company.
Didn't Sawyer threaten to quit during the discussions about their Kickstarter project?
w0t

How do you know that?

He's probably paraphrasing Roguey
 

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There was an interview saying that. Don't you guys read the news?

I'll save you the trouble:
For a while they debated, arguing over how it’d make them look, how much to ask for, and whether people would care enough to crowdfund one of their games. Things got heated—I’d heard a rumor that Sawyer threatened to quit in the midst of these arguments, and although he says he never actually did, he acknowledges that the situation was tense.

A "rumor", but we all know anyone at Obsidian is so PC they'd deny anything that looks like internal conflict. Gotta keep that image. Afterall, the first thing they thought about before going to Kickstarter was "how it’d make them look".
 

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There was an interview saying that. Don't you guys read the news?

I'll save you the trouble:
For a while they debated, arguing over how it’d make them look, how much to ask for, and whether people would care enough to crowdfund one of their games. Things got heated—I’d heard a rumor that Sawyer threatened to quit in the midst of these arguments, and although he says he never actually did, he acknowledges that the situation was tense.

A "rumor", but we all know anyone at Obsidian is so PC they'd deny anything that looks like internal conflict. Gotta keep that image. Afterall, the first thing they thought about before going to Kickstarter was "how it’d make them look".
Yes, that's where I saw it. I really doubt it's not true. Such a shame they didn't let him put his money where his mouth is.
 

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