Get some standarts, people. It's not 80s out there anymore. luj1 you especially, friendo. Falling for shit just because it has resemblance with something from youth or whatever. At least be honest with yourself and others while you're at it. Fucking disgrace.
Here's another reference - that scamware, Stoneshard. Now thatgameproject has some reeeeally juicy pixel art, compare it to this.
Vastly different styles based on different eras/limitations/aesthetics.
I am not super fan fan of faux retro pixel art either, those games were in fact looking much better in the 80s on our crt screens. The gameplay of this one as shown in the demo is decent , writing and setting seems good too, feels like some tabletop rpg, which is rare enough to mention and worthy of a little praise.
Yeah I know, same for mm6 and many other games from that time (in mm6 the clash of different styles of UI elements was jarring even then though) but this is actually being produced for modern systems and therefore displays. The pixels looked differently, simply put. But I didn't even start to talk about anything aside visuals; like I said, the game might be still good overall.
Somehow I'm sure they enjoy it not because of the graphixx, otherwise they should be all checked at the nearest psychiatrist.
I think this is a false analogy. Water color is the tool, exactly. If you try hard you can create something with the digital art tools what would looked as water color painting. But here we have a situation when with modern tools (I assume) people create something with retro look. As if trying to do somthing say in the impressionism style, again with modern digital art tools as if nothing happened. Quite depraved idea if you ask me (if you've been born recently then don't fuck around and explore post-modernism or try to find something new if you dare. don't fucking try to go back, that's pointless).
Digital Impressionism is actually an art style that is currently practiced by many artists around the world, which kind of proves my point.
Not the same. They can call it however they want, it's all essentially post-modernism. Imagine if some scottish guys would use electronic bagpipes in attempt to create some new scottish folklore music for it. How would that make sense? The world has changed and the culture with it. That said, I don't mind using any "old" elements of it (again, post-modernism is almost all about that) but you cannot step into the same river twice. That Caves of Qud example of yours: yes, it does use 8bit graphix but to the best of my knowledge gameplay there is rather innovative, no? Plus I heared it has become woke beyond any measures - rather new urm trend, don't you think?
Praised be the hivemind.
I never quite liked painted backgrounds either, that was a marked decline from pixel art like you said. There were a few exceptions, e.g. Monkey Island 2 still looked very good with the painted and scanned backgrounds.
"People enjoy all kinds of shit" - that's your argument, seriously? I agree in a sense I'm not advocating for censorship here but in turn
it's our job to tell that his creation is shit (if it is). Even talented artists produce shit from time to time let alone various hacks. Look around, it's never ever been easier to create art and at the same time people with no taste whatsoever guzzle it.
I see.
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but there's still the question of taste and your background. What is shit and what isn't is often in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? There no "single refined taste" either; people who have more refined (in other words, broader) tastes still don't agree on everything. And why should they? And what if they did? Would the world be a "better" place then? Or if all others like what I like, then what? I don't see the value in "agreeing" on what is "good" art and what isn't. There's not really an objective criteria for art like it is (more or less) for something practical and utilitarian, for example a pair of shoes (should keep your feet warm, should last for a long time) or a ladder or lightbulb or something.
Absolutely, yes. Especially now with globalization. Relatively speaking, it's up to you and me what to expect to listen in a random cafe, what to look at a new district (it's about architecture too of course) just as "what to see in a new game" after merciless critique of an old one etc etc. And of course you cannot agree on everything but that's not needed. At least not to consume mindlessly and not to walk away with "eh, someone might like it I guess". And of course it's about background but working on one's taste is an endless process.
Yeah I figured that and so is the dev obviously when he was evaluating his target audience but is it impossible to look through bias? Like I said, I grew up with mm6, can't stop me from calling it ugly (for comparison, homm2 still looks fantastic).
I have set up MM I-V (World of Xeen) in Mini vMac and Basilisk already, they're waiting for my grand playthrough. I think the Mac versions are the best, overall.
Who said anything bad about art direction? AoD has great art direction too for comparison but that game is still pretty ugly.
