KickStarter Skyshine's BEDLAM: REDUX!

[getter77]

Worth noting that there's been a rather substantial v2.0 update---changes the game around in a variety of ways, so probably worth keeping that in mind compared to how it all played out on release.

 

[Alfons]

So this is on sale, 50% off. What is the Codex consensus, is it worth the 10 euros?

I haven't played much since the update, but for what's it worth, the update didn't compel me to play more than 20 minutes.

If you purchase it now you'd pay 10 euros, probably play for a few hours and forget about it forever. In a few months the game will probably cost even less and might be even more refined. It will still probably be a game you play once and forget you did.

 

[toro]

Is the game really only an hour long?

Depends. It's possible on easy difficulty but one run takes at least 3+ hours on upper difficulties.

 

[Galdred]

How is the game with the new tactical mode (where you get 1 AP +1 per character, with 1 AP to move and 2 to attack)?

 

[Galdred]

omg, they even a mode where you can direct all your guys at once
I'm curious about how it turns out. This could have the potential to be good. At least, the amount of change they are accepting to try is nothing short of impressive.

 

[Slimu]

They have just released the REDUX! update which seems to greatly improve the combat system and the way the campaign works. http://steamcommunity.com/games/367600/announcements/detail/850425119681342060

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

all i want is some reduced frustration. i loathe this "losing is fun" fashion.

 

[Jimmious]

Wow impressive changes! Ive got to admit they are really trying to turn this around. I might give it another go with the new stuff

 

[Galdred]

I have given it a go, and I like the new combat system, but I am not far enough to tell whether it is balanced or not. It is pretty standard 2AP, with weird range patterns, but I much prefer it over the system that was in place before.

 

[Jimmious]

Yes that was really bad. Its more nuXCOMy now if I get it right, which is probably good for the game

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i tried it out, and found it extremely underwhelming. it needs a "captain edition" grade overhaul.
or it's probably my fault, i was expecting to manage my crew, not to just have some cardboards to order around.

 

[orcinator]

Is everyone still incredibly fragile in the "everyone can act" mode?


Is endgame still "hope you have enough Energy to keep healing your dudes and debuffing the boss or you're fucked"?

 

[Galdred]

Is everyone still incredibly fragile in the "everyone can act" mode?


Is endgame still "hope you have enough Energy to keep healing your dudes and debuffing the boss or you're fucked"?

Not sure about the endgame, but yes, people die pretty fast, and except for healing/protection buffs, there is no reliable way to keep them around.

 

[orcinator]

Gave the mew version a pirate since I dig the art;

They made it so you won't get any "the enemy has three units in range, hope they don't activate the one you don't kill" moments but most of the game's other flaws are still here, like how there's little depth to the combat beyond using the shield equalizer when you're threatened.

Also I don't know if it's a glitch, normal mode or working as intended but once I found all the artifacts and defeated viscera at the entrance to Aztec City the game just ended and showed me the score screen, wasting the 200 fusion thingies I had stockpiled.

 

[agris]

Anyone spend much time with the Redux version? I’m coming back to this game after it’s 2015 birthing pains.

Is arcade mode the only way to unlock new dozers? Is arcade the OG mechanics and campaign is the new redux ones?

 

[agris]

Galdred Jimmious Slimu toro Alphons getter77 Jaedar Transfiguring Roar dextermorgan eXalted Trashos

if any of you owned this on GOG, please PM me. I'm trying to do some version archaeology.

 

[Alphons]

I don't own it, but looks cool. So thanks for tagging me.

Might actually pick it up on GOG.

 

[Modron]

Not available for sale anymore hence agris looking for someone with access to it^

 

[agris]

hit the nail on the head Modron

I supported this on KS and have it on Steam, but the current version is very different than what the developers initially released. It's a classic case of a game being Not Easy and the developers dramatically re-working their vision to try to salvage sales. Version 2.6 from Jan 2016 is the most patched classic version of the game (not the current Redux).

I've been able to recreate v2.6 through pulling of old manifests off of steam's console, but the binary has steam's drm in it. That's why I'm looking for a gog owner, they should have access to the old 2.6 build and the drm-free executable.

 

[dextermorgan]

dextermorgan

Never picked it up in the end, sorry.

 

[toro]

I only have it on Steam.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

Sorry, Agris, I've only got it on Steam.

 

[orcinator]

hit the nail on the head Modron

I supported this on KS and have it on Steam, but the current version is very different than what the developers initially released. It's a classic case of a game being Not Easy and the developers dramatically re-working their vision to try to salvage sales. Version 2.6 from Jan 2016 is the most patched classic version of the game (not the current Redux).

I've been able to recreate v2.6 through pulling of old manifests off of steam's console, but the binary has steam's drm in it. That's why I'm looking for a gog owner, they should have access to the old 2.6 build and the drm-free executable.

Try torrent sites. The private tracker I use doesn't have v2.6 and I don't care about this game enough to investigate further.

 

[agris]

Thanks orcinator , that was my first step. All I can find is 1.0 and redux.

 

[AceP]

Thanks orcinator , that was my first step. All I can find is 1.0 and redux.

Hey Agris. I've been looking for this game.
It is very sad the devs just took it down for no reason.

I only have the original 1.0 (but that one tends to crash after a few games, and you cant even save and load it). I dont know if there are any free patches to download either.

Do you have the patched version or Redux version with more stability?