Hellraiser
Arcane
Ok so they nerfed the AoE damage which was the only thing she had going for her as a CC-less jungler with no gap-closer and nerfed her ult because why not?
FFS riot.
FFS riot.
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So, anyone playing League of Legends?
- Thread starter Wulfstand
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As a cleper who wode in playing Shyvana well before her outburst in altheed-love, seeing her in this sorry onlay brings a one tear to my eye. I chide those goddamned Russlanders doing so well at IEM Kiev for her befoulment.
Furthermore, after again beseeking her for a few unsound games this yeartide, I acknowledged that I had forgotten that all of Shyv's skins are rank shite.
Furthermore, after again beseeking her for a few unsound games this yeartide, I acknowledged that I had forgotten that all of Shyv's skins are rank shite.
Hellraiser
Arcane
Last time I played with jungle twisted fate we won. All TFs should jungle.
Jim Cojones
Prophet
So, a couple days ago there were some issues with spectator mode and it had to be disabled until fixed. This has been done and the option to watch games is there back again, except on EUNE because apparently Riot guys forgot to turn it back on for this server.
FFS, Riot!
FFS, Riot!
Brotherman Bill
Arcane
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Remember how she was balanced in the s2 jungle?Poor Shyvana. S3 was not kind to her.
What's her main problem now really? OP cleaver is shit on her? She can't stack belts? Or is it just that everyone and their grandmother is an assassin with a built in flash while her ganks are as awful as they always were?
In s2 jungle, aoe clear was everything. In S3 jungle it isn't nearly as important, so suddenly one of her main features is much less useful, and as mystardy wrote they nerfed it as well for some reason
ffsRIOT!
Hellraiser
Arcane
Outside of a bug fix they didn't touch her after the nerf herostratus mentioned.
Also you know what is hilarious? Naut+nami ult. The CC rape train has no breaks. They just keep jumping into the air until they die.
Also you know what is hilarious? Naut+nami ult. The CC rape train has no breaks. They just keep jumping into the air until they die.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
When did top become the dump lane? I can't get jungle instead I get to play these match-ups I have no understanding of and get camped. What does singed do vs. Lee Sin, I even killed him one time and had nice farms but getting him off my lane is still almost impossible and even such a shit jungler as Malphite can force me to lose if he spends enough time on it. Or what does Yorick do vs. Chogath 'cept farm and spend 20 minutes dodging OP rupture? Pff.
Then she must be evenweighted through and through, amirite Riot?
Hellraiser
Arcane
Lee Shit top? You pretty much just farm if you can't fling him into poison+minions. If they come to gank you just walk away. You win once teamfights start because lee shit is a waste of farm in a solo lane. With luck you push his tower eventually. Or you just go roam and gank mid/troll their jungler once you push your lane to their tower. Since I push a lot I always buy a bunch of wards on singed and ward the shit out of their jungle/river if blue is top on my side.
But I do agree, so many boring matchups top recently it's not funny. Either you end up against an immovable object that are mostly useless like lee sin, shen, cho, yorick, garen, renekton, nasus, singed or you face ranged faggotry of jayce/teemo/nid/kayle/elise. I end up playing nami in like over half of my games since I got to gold. It keeps giving me first or second picks, either that or somebody picks a lane before me or they didn't pick whichever lane we have free yet. Well the adc is free a lot of the time, but I rather pick nami and babysit retarded ez than have him pick healgoat and do almost fucking nothing in a teamfight or during laning.
But I do agree, so many boring matchups top recently it's not funny. Either you end up against an immovable object that are mostly useless like lee sin, shen, cho, yorick, garen, renekton, nasus, singed or you face ranged faggotry of jayce/teemo/nid/kayle/elise. I end up playing nami in like over half of my games since I got to gold. It keeps giving me first or second picks, either that or somebody picks a lane before me or they didn't pick whichever lane we have free yet. Well the adc is free a lot of the time, but I rather pick nami and babysit retarded ez than have him pick healgoat and do almost fucking nothing in a teamfight or during laning.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
I find that just walk away isn't so easy when you're being kicked all around and knocked up slowed this and that. Remember that singed doesn't have his CC reduce anymore.
Tryndamere is amazing, it's official. He's a total asshole though, when you judge your laner to be incompetent you just steal his farm and make him even more useless. Then you're the farmiest farmer of them all but man, if the enemies lose just one teamfight late game they lose everything.
Tryndamere is amazing, it's official. He's a total asshole though, when you judge your laner to be incompetent you just steal his farm and make him even more useless. Then you're the farmiest farmer of them all but man, if the enemies lose just one teamfight late game they lose everything.
Hellraiser
Arcane
If he kicks you you run towards him and toss him behind you, spray glue behind you. By walk away though I meant ult(+ghost if their jungler is around, fuck them) away. I always build mercs on him anyway as CC-less teams are nearly extinct at my goldwrap GRUNKERs, fuck buying tabi and armor when he probably gets brutalizer anyway.
Speaking of which enemy jungle nasus managed to ruin my 80% win rate with nami by making my 11th ranked game with her lost. Cait+leona just pushed bot, he ganks us from our jungle 3 fucking times before I hit 6, once successfully and continues doing so relentlessly. He succeeds at least three times eventually. Our bad ez blamed me when he fed a derpy kill to varus earlier when I was oom and both of them were low hp (although frankly shen pinged to gank and went away as we were essentially all-inning each other, because "lol they have wards" how about chase him away so our bot can b and heal you idiot?). Didn't matter because top zed fed jax first blood, OP 9pots+fort elixir start doesn't mean you can all-in him as a fucking assassin at level 2 r00fles. He should wait until level 3 if not 4 at least to build up his burst or fucking something. Dumbfucks playing FotMs, the bane of solo QQ.
Oh somehow when shen is jungling and red is fucking bot he's never in our part of the bot jungle and nasus just roams freely inside. "lol pink ward it", I don't even have a fucking philo yet or my ult and I'm warding 3 places at the same time and he still fucking ganks us, how the fuck am I supposed to afford pink wards. Whats so fucking hard about babysitting bot if he's doing the same? Especially when red is bot for our team and he has no excuse not to be farming there? Useless moron.
At the very least that was my only lost game out of the qualifiers to Gold IV, nami really carried me there. I first picked Morgana mid in the first one, they pick OP shen and vlad mid. Vlad didn't get even one kill the entire game, his 40 cs advantage helped him oh so much when he's useless. Also their jungler was shaco who ganked successfully once during the entire game, r00fles!
Last game they had OP tf, he didn't gank bot with his ult even once, in fact he ganked with his ult just once before laning was over and they still went 1 for 1 and he got no kill the whole game. They had top darius who lost to nasus. He managed to kill me once (me playing mf) getting his first kill and proceeded to just KS his carries while they had 0 kills. He was smart enough to buy randuin's, but good luck when our carries our fed, our nasus is farmed and fed and our jungle volibear is fed.
Gold IV qualifiers waaay easier than getting from Silver II to Silver I or to Gold V. Goldwrap GRUNKERs has me seeing more bads than in Silver II, elo hell indeed.
Speaking of which enemy jungle nasus managed to ruin my 80% win rate with nami by making my 11th ranked game with her lost. Cait+leona just pushed bot, he ganks us from our jungle 3 fucking times before I hit 6, once successfully and continues doing so relentlessly. He succeeds at least three times eventually. Our bad ez blamed me when he fed a derpy kill to varus earlier when I was oom and both of them were low hp (although frankly shen pinged to gank and went away as we were essentially all-inning each other, because "lol they have wards" how about chase him away so our bot can b and heal you idiot?). Didn't matter because top zed fed jax first blood, OP 9pots+fort elixir start doesn't mean you can all-in him as a fucking assassin at level 2 r00fles. He should wait until level 3 if not 4 at least to build up his burst or fucking something. Dumbfucks playing FotMs, the bane of solo QQ.
Oh somehow when shen is jungling and red is fucking bot he's never in our part of the bot jungle and nasus just roams freely inside. "lol pink ward it", I don't even have a fucking philo yet or my ult and I'm warding 3 places at the same time and he still fucking ganks us, how the fuck am I supposed to afford pink wards. Whats so fucking hard about babysitting bot if he's doing the same? Especially when red is bot for our team and he has no excuse not to be farming there? Useless moron.
At the very least that was my only lost game out of the qualifiers to Gold IV, nami really carried me there. I first picked Morgana mid in the first one, they pick OP shen and vlad mid. Vlad didn't get even one kill the entire game, his 40 cs advantage helped him oh so much when he's useless. Also their jungler was shaco who ganked successfully once during the entire game, r00fles!
Last game they had OP tf, he didn't gank bot with his ult even once, in fact he ganked with his ult just once before laning was over and they still went 1 for 1 and he got no kill the whole game. They had top darius who lost to nasus. He managed to kill me once (me playing mf) getting his first kill and proceeded to just KS his carries while they had 0 kills. He was smart enough to buy randuin's, but good luck when our carries our fed, our nasus is farmed and fed and our jungle volibear is fed.
Gold IV qualifiers waaay easier than getting from Silver II to Silver I or to Gold V. Goldwrap GRUNKERs has me seeing more bads than in Silver II, elo hell indeed.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
Well I lost some Zac games. Top Yorick feeds Jax mid Ahri feeds Fizz, top Garen feeds Jax and ashe builds boots of swiftness tear of goddess. Fucking Jax, stop feeding him, it's impossible to fix when he snowballs. And stop building that troll shit it's ranked FFS, what's with the troll builds all of a sudden.
Hellraiser
Arcane
You need to dodge more and get better carries 
Honestly my highest winrates this season are Morgana with 73.1% out of 28 games, nami with 72,7% out of 11 and vi with 60% out of 15 games (where I get carried half of the time because there's only so much vi does in a team other than good ganks). That's not counting single games as akali or nasus or the two pre-season games won with Irelia. Both nami and morgana carry in solo QQ like nothing else. I'm 50/50 with singed and MF. Although with singed I had 60% before that horriblu yi mid I didn't dodge.
MF can't carry, she wins lanes and occasionally teamfights if you get to use your ult but she's nearly as team-dependent as Kog. If you're the sole fed person on the team carrying it is very hard as her, especially due to league of assassins. Short of getting ridiculously fed the odds of the adc carrying are low unless you play vayne, trist or kog and even then they'll probably just focus you.
Honestly my highest winrates this season are Morgana with 73.1% out of 28 games, nami with 72,7% out of 11 and vi with 60% out of 15 games (where I get carried half of the time because there's only so much vi does in a team other than good ganks). That's not counting single games as akali or nasus or the two pre-season games won with Irelia. Both nami and morgana carry in solo QQ like nothing else. I'm 50/50 with singed and MF. Although with singed I had 60% before that horriblu yi mid I didn't dodge.
MF can't carry, she wins lanes and occasionally teamfights if you get to use your ult but she's nearly as team-dependent as Kog. If you're the sole fed person on the team carrying it is very hard as her, especially due to league of assassins. Short of getting ridiculously fed the odds of the adc carrying are low unless you play vayne, trist or kog and even then they'll probably just focus you.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
You're Nocturne, and you're doing well enough that you can actually dive their carry, you're also the tankiest member of your team. Now while you're taking out their ADC, Fiddlesticks kills your entire team. If you dive him instead their carry kills your team. What do you do?
Hellraiser
Arcane
You type /ff
Honestly though surrendering is the best choice, short of trying to splitpush, fiddle can't be everywhere but odd are they'll just push together, kill half of your team and end it while you barely take out a tower. That's why I dislike playing as junglers that can only dive their carry (including vi) and not much else apart from doing damage. If you try to murder whoever wants your carry dead you lose, if you dive their carry and kill him you still lose if more than one enemy champion is fed. But short of having someone with a knockback pushing fiddle away the only thing you can do is have your whole team get banshees. Too bad almost nobody playing a squishy in tinfoil elo knows what it is and what it does.
Also fun fact: you can spam laugh while under zhonya's stasis effect. Fiddle should have done that if he bought it.
Honestly though surrendering is the best choice, short of trying to splitpush, fiddle can't be everywhere but odd are they'll just push together, kill half of your team and end it while you barely take out a tower. That's why I dislike playing as junglers that can only dive their carry (including vi) and not much else apart from doing damage. If you try to murder whoever wants your carry dead you lose, if you dive their carry and kill him you still lose if more than one enemy champion is fed. But short of having someone with a knockback pushing fiddle away the only thing you can do is have your whole team get banshees. Too bad almost nobody playing a squishy in tinfoil elo knows what it is and what it does.
Also fun fact: you can spam laugh while under zhonya's stasis effect. Fiddle should have done that if he bought it.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
I told varus to build QSS so he can get out of the fear, also we had Voli support so I thought he can flip Fiddle away but nothing cool like that ever happened. Better just play Tryndamere and spam "ULT DOWN DON'T EXPECT HELP" works every time
Hellraiser
Arcane
His ult deals like 1k damage or more if you keeps standing in it as a squishy when he's fed, outside of it fiddle can only fear and murder you one at a time. Banshees is really a better choice as it negates all damage from it allowing you to kill him with impunity before he murders more than 1 person.
What have you been smoking? If you had a halfway decent early/mid game as Vi, she will single out and murder the enemy carry every teamfight. Point&click gapcloser+CC immunity+suppression+high burst.
Even if you die shortly after, trading jungler for their carry will usually result in a won teamfight. If you don't die, Q into the next squishy and repeat.
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