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So, anyone playing League of Legends?
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Demnogonis Saastuttaja
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The problem with Zilean in general is that you have to trust your teammates to react to this hard to see GA shit that's on them and requires them to play the opposite of their gaming instincts. Like it's not gonna help if the adc is anyway gonna double blink out of the fight, yeah great you just made sure he didn't die.
Lol, playing tank is sure rewarding now, instant meltage since even the support is dealing huge chunks of damage to you. Fuck this. I'm gonna play assassins if I'm going to die anyway.
Even still I don't get these people who go like BT HYDRA BRUT on Renekton. Have fun being two-shotted by Gayne.
Lol, playing tank is sure rewarding now, instant meltage since even the support is dealing huge chunks of damage to you. Fuck this. I'm gonna play assassins if I'm going to die anyway.
Even still I don't get these people who go like BT HYDRA BRUT on Renekton. Have fun being two-shotted by Gayne.
Hellraiser
Arcane
You can always make a smurf on EUW and pubstomp level 6-9 people with WW, Garen or Quinn who are free. There everybody builds glasscannon freeweek renekton.
Renegen
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New champions on Morello's chopping block rework list:
Shaco
Alistar
Poppy
Sion
Warwick
Zilean
Urgot
And to put things into perspective, there were 19 new champions in 2012 and only 7 in 2013, wow. It's pretty clear they want to use any excuse to change the old champions to incorporate new game design ideas Riot loves, I'm not sure how I feel about this, no one is safe. I was thinking how every S4 change has been to make the game more similar to Dawngate. The Warwick rework is particularly stupid, all he needs are some QoL updates.
Shaco
Alistar
Poppy
Sion
Warwick
Zilean
Urgot
And to put things into perspective, there were 19 new champions in 2012 and only 7 in 2013, wow. It's pretty clear they want to use any excuse to change the old champions to incorporate new game design ideas Riot loves, I'm not sure how I feel about this, no one is safe. I was thinking how every S4 change has been to make the game more similar to Dawngate. The Warwick rework is particularly stupid, all he needs are some QoL updates.
Hellraiser
Arcane
WW rework? What? Are they crazy? MORELLO YOU RETARD.
Alistar needs another rework? Just make him able to jungle.
Sion, Zilean and Urgot I can agree with I guess (although TBH Urgot could just use a buff but then he would be a dick in mid lane or top).
Poppy? Uh, not sure what they want to change about her. She could use a new model though. Shaco is mostly fine, touching him would be like reworking LeBlanc.
Alistar needs another rework? Just make him able to jungle.
Sion, Zilean and Urgot I can agree with I guess (although TBH Urgot could just use a buff but then he would be a dick in mid lane or top).
Poppy? Uh, not sure what they want to change about her. She could use a new model though. Shaco is mostly fine, touching him would be like reworking LeBlanc.
Azael
Magister
Are we talking full rework on all of them or are they just champs in need of looking at? WW is mostly fine, just needs some minor QoL stuff. Sion is a mess and definitely needs a complete overhaul. Not sure about Urgot, needs a stronger "identity" I suppose. He should be a MBT, more or less. Sturdy and capable of dishing out serious pain.
Poppy's problem right now is that you can't really let her have a decent laning phase due to her IDDQ ultimate and the hidden power of her passive. Maybe shifting some power from those into the rest of her kit is the way to go. No idea about Zil, though his passive will change since they can't be global anymore. Ali needs work? Only thing I'd change is his heal into something else. A burly minotaur healing people by yelling is just weird.
Poppy's problem right now is that you can't really let her have a decent laning phase due to her IDDQ ultimate and the hidden power of her passive. Maybe shifting some power from those into the rest of her kit is the way to go. No idea about Zil, though his passive will change since they can't be global anymore. Ali needs work? Only thing I'd change is his heal into something else. A burly minotaur healing people by yelling is just weird.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
Make Shaco broken like Evelynn then nerf him to the ground
Make Alistar broken like Taric and nerf him to the ground
Hopefully delete poppy along with Gayle and the others
Sion probably will be a broken AP bruiser
WW will heal himself more when he's low and his team attack speed will be nerfed I guess
About Zilean I have no clue, probably turned into Karma 2
Urgot's ranged bruiser game upped, then nerfed because ranged bruiser is a ridiculous concept
Make Alistar broken like Taric and nerf him to the ground
Hopefully delete poppy along with Gayle and the others
Sion probably will be a broken AP bruiser
WW will heal himself more when he's low and his team attack speed will be nerfed I guess
About Zilean I have no clue, probably turned into Karma 2
Urgot's ranged bruiser game upped, then nerfed because ranged bruiser is a ridiculous concept
Renegen
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Hellraiser, not sure what to change about Poppy? You gotta be more creative! Think like a Rioter.
"Hrm hrm, her passive is anti-fun, her ult has no counter, she can build full damage and be tanky". Morello kinda mentioned he wanted to keep her Charge but ditch everything else.
edit: see, Azael's got it! Remarkable instincts too, I think they mentioned they wanted Alistar's heal removed.
"Hrm hrm, her passive is anti-fun, her ult has no counter, she can build full damage and be tanky". Morello kinda mentioned he wanted to keep her Charge but ditch everything else.
edit: see, Azael's got it! Remarkable instincts too, I think they mentioned they wanted Alistar's heal removed.
Azael
Magister
Morello has gone on record as hating AP Sion, so that's out. Going to be another melee fighter struggling without a gap closer.
I came up with an QoL idea for Warwick's blood scent awhile back, make it work like Tryndamere's Mocking Shout and Katarinas ultimate. Lights up when someone is close and can only be activated when someone is in range. That way you could "sense" if someone is near, like a werewolfwolf would, and then chose to activate it to "sniff them out" and get the movespeed boost.
Azael
Magister
Just read Morello's posts, seems like I had a good read on him.
Erzherzog
Magister
Remember when there was nothing wrong with Shaco?
Then they nerfed him?
Now he needs a rework? Get the fuck out of here I don't know why numbers buffs and nerfs are suddenly the fucking plague to Riot. Remember when Sivir was supposed to just be really minor tweaks to abilities? Come on now Riot...
Then they nerfed him?
Now he needs a rework? Get the fuck out of here I don't know why numbers buffs and nerfs are suddenly the fucking plague to Riot. Remember when Sivir was supposed to just be really minor tweaks to abilities? Come on now Riot...
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Azael
Magister
@Mystary small buffs like that is what Warwick needs, not a complete redo. Some number tweaks here and there, make some of his animations a bit more fluid, etc.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
These days only blue or purple champions are banned. I even saw Varus banned. Better ban everything blue and purple, we want browns and beige
Azael
Magister
Not that I was any good at this game before, but not playing much and then playing on an unfamiliar setup hasn't really improved things. I keep forgetting to disable smart cast on certain skills I'm terrible at using with smart cast, keep forgetting about new active items and trinkets, etc.
Renegen
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Playing Nasus jungle has really gotten me accustomed to using shift + QWE when I need to non-smart cast. I used to press shift + E for every single camp to make sure his Spirit Fire landed perfectly and now I can use those type of combinations even in combat when the situation requires it. I can't say I'm at the level of a pro Zed player that can use shift + Q to lead his shurikens and then do super quick movements with smartcast, but it's getting better.
I found that most new mechanics take me about 1-2 weeks to really get down. It was the same thing when I learned to kite, to attack-move, and now to use shift when the situation requires it. It's really awkward at first but then you get it. I'm actually a really big fan of playing vs bots and just practicing mechanics. It's a far less stressful way of getting that win of the day and I guess I always like to master a champion before I really play them a lot. I've been practicing Elise for the past week to get a new jungler and every day I learn a few new things about her mechanics. Hell, just yesterday I was playing Varus to practice my kiting and I learned that his Q is an auto attack reset, kinda obvious I guess but I bet half of Varus players don't know it and end up cancelling the attack because they try to kite too much in a 1v1 or don't end up making use of it.
I found that most new mechanics take me about 1-2 weeks to really get down. It was the same thing when I learned to kite, to attack-move, and now to use shift when the situation requires it. It's really awkward at first but then you get it. I'm actually a really big fan of playing vs bots and just practicing mechanics. It's a far less stressful way of getting that win of the day and I guess I always like to master a champion before I really play them a lot. I've been practicing Elise for the past week to get a new jungler and every day I learn a few new things about her mechanics. Hell, just yesterday I was playing Varus to practice my kiting and I learned that his Q is an auto attack reset, kinda obvious I guess but I bet half of Varus players don't know it and end up cancelling the attack because they try to kite too much in a 1v1 or don't end up making use of it.
Did they fix it so shift works correctly like this without rebinding the keys and instead setting smart cast on/off on that new menu thingie?
That's funny. That's the key I usually use to accidentally start autoattacking creeps instead of champions.
Azael
Magister
OMG! SO CUTE. IF ONLY I DIDN'T ALREADY HAZ DRAGON TRAINER ^_____^
Still waiting for Santa Gragas and Festive Maokai. No RP purchase till they put those up. ffsRiot
When is new champ coming out? They have been hyping him for a month or so. But I gotta say Im glad they slowed down the pace on new champ releases. Theres too many of em anyway.
And Im sick of carrying people whole fucking time. Amazing how many last games we won with both of our carrys in negative score. It just draws out to epic 40-50 minute games with tanks battling it out and carrys get instapwned at the start of the battle.
Omg Blitz why did you take double kill? RETARD!! Plz report Blitz
When is new champ coming out? They have been hyping him for a month or so. But I gotta say Im glad they slowed down the pace on new champ releases. Theres too many of em anyway.
And Im sick of carrying people whole fucking time. Amazing how many last games we won with both of our carrys in negative score. It just draws out to epic 40-50 minute games with tanks battling it out and carrys get instapwned at the start of the battle.
Omg Blitz why did you take double kill? RETARD!! Plz report Blitz
Azael
Magister
Festive Maokai is great, though newer skins generally is of higher quality with new particles and what not. Support Mao is hella fun, just BTW.
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