Solasta Solasta II - coming to Early Access in 2025

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Too bad Solasta 2 is still stuck with D&D 5E.

D&D 5E is perfectly alright-ish.
But I would homebrew the shit out of some rules.

Deficiencies of "D&D 5th edition":

• Concentration mechanic, renders most spells worthless
• Attunement mechanic, renders surplus magic items worthless (except for sale)
• Short-rest mechanic, along with many abilities that are per short rest or per encounter
• Enormous power jump at 5th level across almost all classes
• More of a super-hero game than a heroic fantasy game
• Overpowered subclasses or class combinations

 

[Artyoan]

Since I don't play tabletop and know almost nothing about alternatives, what other tabletop system is mechanically better? Regardless of popularity. Especially if adapted to a video game crpg format.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Since I don't play tabletop and know almost nothing about alternatives, what other tabletop system is mechanically better? Regardless of popularity. Especially if adapted to a video game crpg format.

3E, Pathfinder (basically D&D 3.75), something like Rolemaster might be interesting, AD&D 1E and 2E. WEG's D6 system... almost anything really. Lol

5E is fine, it just sucks that such a nice rendition of tabletop stuff doesn't use a better system.

A full fledged BECMI D&D CRPG would be interesting. I think they did that in... Warriors of the Eternal Sun? Game was pretty bad though.

 

[scytheavatar]

Since I don't play tabletop and know almost nothing about alternatives, what other tabletop system is mechanically better? Regardless of popularity. Especially if adapted to a video game crpg format.

3E, Pathfinder (basically D&D 3.75), something like Rolemaster might be interesting, AD&D 1E and 2E. WEG's D6 system... almost anything really. Lol

5E is fine, it just sucks that such a nice rendition of tabletop stuff doesn't use a better system.

A full fledged BECMI D&D CRPG would be interesting. I think they did that in... Warriors of the Eternal Sun? Game was pretty bad though.

Any system which doesn't deal with the stacking 100 buffs problem is not better than 5E. 5E is better than any of the system you have named just from Concentration.

 

[Lacrymas]

5E doesn't give us enough tools to build a character, the only meaningful choice you have is what subclass to get. 3E and Pathfinder are better in this regard, but they suffer from the stacking effects thing. Which admittedly is a better thing to suffer from than the myriad of problems 5E has when translated into video game form. I'd say no to Pathfinder 1E regardless, though, because it's just bloated. I haven't seriously looked into PF 2E.

 

[rashiakas]

Since I don't play tabletop and know almost nothing about alternatives, what other tabletop system is mechanically better? Regardless of popularity. Especially if adapted to a video game crpg format.

Pathfinder is perfect for a PC game, especially if you use some of the optional rules from unchained.

 

[rashiakas]

5E doesn't give us enough tools to build a character, the only meaningful choice you have is what subclass to get. 3E and Pathfinder are better in this regard, but they suffer from the stacking effects thing. Which admittedly is a better thing to suffer from than the myriad of problems 5E has when translated into video game form. I'd say no to Pathfinder 1E regardless, though, because it's just bloated. I haven't seriously looked into PF 2E.

The stacking/Buffing wouldn't be a problem if the game was set up right. First, most people think of WotR when they think about buffboting, and that is with mythic rules, which are pretty bad imo. Second, there is/was a lot of stacking that shouldn't work per RAW. If we had a level 1-12 Pathfinder game with good encounters and all the great options of Solastas encounter maps, it would be a superb game. Things like spiderclimb, fly, dimdoor, darkvision etc. all hardly matter in most games, this is where Solasta really shined. With Pathfinder, you have all this things on top of buildporn. Heck, even core only has more options then anything 5E.

 

[Lacrymas]

Outside of the bloat, Pathfinder suffers from action economy problems. It throws countless abilities at you but only a few are ever viable due to how action economy works in TB games, or at least works in Pathfinder. If I were to make a Pathfinder game, I'd start by trimming the fat and house ruling the fuck out of how the action economy works.

 

[rashiakas]

Where is action economy a problem?