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Goes on sale occasionally I think for $10-15 (unless you're an uber-cheapass).
It's on sale right now for $11.99US. I just watched that 4.0 trailer and bought it within two minutes of finishing the trailer. Honestly, I had a blast with Mount & Blade when it was still in alpha and beta despite the jank that game had. I also like Galactic Crew 2, which is a one developer game with plenty of jank, but he's also one of those developers that tries to toss everything he can in to one game as well.

One, I love space games. Oh, and I can build my own space stations? Oh, and I can do station sieges?! What's that, fleet control with large scale space battles? And I can leave my ship, walk around, and shoot shit? I'll accept some jank for all that, because this ticks a shitload of the features I've been wanting in a space game forever.
I only wish the planetary systems had more variations than the same template they seem to follow right now.
Have you tried out Stellar Tactics by the way?
 

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Anyone notice a parallel between Oblivion and Mount & Blade and now Starfield and Spacebourne 2? Bethesda, a gigantic AAA studio, gets their latest released absolutely spanked by a small, SMALL team of developers yet again. With Oblivion, it was how they didn't have the time to make mounted combat "good", and then Mount & Blade came out of no where with some really decent mounted combat. With Starfield, well.. It's pretty much everything that Spacebourne 2 seems to have.
 

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Is Spacebourne 2 really Mount & Blade levels of good tho? If so Im really gonma have to try it.
 

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SpaceBourne 2 Early Access Ver. 4.1.0 Released
SpaceBourne 2 Early Access Ver. 4.1.0

New Features And Changes:
We've gathered all the feedback from our players and have completely rewritten the entire family and faction system based on it.

New Faction Stats:

Four new faction stats have been added to the game:

  • Diplomatic Power: Determined by a faction's relationships with other factions.
  • Economic Power: Determined by the stations and systems a faction owns, and the traffic those systems generate.
  • Military Power: Based on the strategic locations owned and the military strength of a faction.
  • Family Power: Calculated based on the total power a faction holds in the galaxy.
  • Leader Power: Determined by the successes and decisions of a faction's leader.
  • Factions now base all their decisions and actions on these values, enhancing and renewing the AI behaviors.

New Faction and Diplomacy Feature – “Trade Routes”:

Factions can now form trade agreements with each other. Following these agreements, trade routes are established between the parties, and trade ships dynamically follow these routes to complete their trades.

Ambush the Trade Ships :

One of the most requested features, Trade Convoys and Seamless Space to Ground Battles, has been added. Players can now ambush trade ships along these routes, breach their hulls, and engage in seamless face-to-face combat to loot containers.

New Faction and Diplomacy Feature – “Leaders”:

Every faction now has leaders, such as Mayors or Generals in every system and station. These leaders can make autonomous decisions that enhance their faction's power. Players can encounter them in various locations, such as the stations they manage. Additionally, winning battles may now result in capturing these leaders if they are present at the station, disabling them, taking them prisoner, and even selling them as slaves, thereby disrupting the power balance of the factions.

More Dynamic AI Diplomacy:
AI factions can now develop relationships amongst themselves, forging new agreements and opening new trade routes.

Player Faction Improvements:

New Currency: POWER

A new currency, Power now balances all actions of the player faction. Every activity earns Power, and every advancement requires it, making the progression more balanced and the game more challenging.

New Player Faction Trade Agreements:
Player factions can now make trade agreements with friendly factions to earn money.

New Faction Path Variable:
The path chosen for a player's faction now has more significant implications. For instance, a Faction on the Chaos path gains more power from plundering a station, whereas a Faction on the Harmony path gains less power and must consider Faction support.

New Enemy Class: "Space Boss Ships"
Space now features dozens of procedurally generated bosses with multiple abilities, replacing all bounty targets in bounty missions with these bosses.

Mothership Improvements:
The player mothership and its system have been completely overhauled. Motherships now have subsystems which players manage in real-time, influencing the course of battles through strategic subsystem adjustments.

We will be introducing new Mothership weapons in future updates to make motherships even more complex.

Sound and Music Updates:

Unique music and atmospheric sounds have been added for all stations.

The Russian Language has been updated.

**BUG FIXES:**
Reported by players as follows:

  • - I can no longer call my Mothership. I am in the correct system and station, but it will not respond my call via the Ship Manager interface.
  • - Some planets' scalers are too large and can engulf surrounding stations, or when I warp to a nearby station, it directly lands me on the planet.
  • - "The Constructor" mission does not update from " Wait for Jack" part.
  • - Anti-missile flares are launched from the middle of the ship forward.
  • -When assigning a general as the leader of a new house, the general slot is permanently deleted.

    IMPORTANT
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    We fixed this bug, but had to remove all generals from their slots and refresh the slots to correct imbalances in save files that were affected. Therefore, if you encounter this issue and find the general slots empty when you load your game, you need to reassign them from the "Ready to Assign" section.

  • - Capital ships are capable of buying trade goods from Trade Hubs or Industrial Complexes, which disrupts the trade mechanics.
  • - Star systems assigned to sub-houses (vassals) in the Atlas are displayed as belonging to no one (without a mini-portrait of my vassal).
  • - House Zerat should have a Research Station named Aldon in the Valtoros (N2) system, but it is not there. NOTE: We identified 6 space stations missing like this and have corrected these errors.
  • - Plundered Station Blocks Capturing System. Now a station being plundered no longer prevents capturing the system.
  • - The entry points of research stations appear skewed and prevent me from entering the station after battles.
  • - The diplomacy panel lags for 1-2 seconds when opened.
  • - At Outposts and Morthra stations, the Ship Management console is outside the station, allowing me to change ships during combat, which disrupts the combat mechanics.
  • - When I visit markets appropriate for my Guild rank, the item tiers are lower than promised. When checking legendary stocks, I mostly see “Rare” items.
  • - If I use a mothership, after capturing a station, the siege mode is maintained and does not allow jumps to gates, stations, etc.
  • - When controlling the mothership, there is a conflict between 2 buttons: stabilizing pods and changing the “free view” camera.
  • - While playing with motherships, I am unable to capture pods. (A new SubSystem has been added to motherships to enable capturing surrounding pods.)
  • - Stations do not provide the promised rewards after capturing.
  • - We can enter stations during Destroy Operations, which disrupts the process.
  • - Immediately after capturing a station, in raid mode, the “system capture” button is not active. To capture a system, you need to fly to another system and return; then the button will become active again.
  • - WRA soldiers become invisible at certain camera angles immediately after capturing a station.
  • - Pirates can raid a station while we are capturing it.
  • - The game crashes when a squad lands on a planet via warp.
  • - Every time I board the ship after rescuing Anka from prison, I receive repeating dialogues from Anka and Drane.
  • - During the initial mission at the asteroid station, the “Shot Target” indicator disappears during the tutorial, making it impossible to reacquire the target.
  • - The Player Faction's Structures panel appears empty.
  • - After winning battles, the Victory screen shows that I have gained "0" from the battles.
  • - During Castle Siege, even after winning and capturing the castle, turrets shoot at my ship when I board.
  • - During Castle Siege, turrets deal excessively high damage relative to their levels.
  • - I can climb on top of vending machines in the Bounty Hunters Guild and Mercenary Guild, and when I come down, it throws me into void space.
  • - Every time I save and load the game after destroying a station, “Debris of” is added in front of the station's name, and these “Debris of” labels stack.
  • - Drones spawned during a battle at a station remain there even after the battle ends.
  • - During a battle at a station, I can cancel the combat from the Faction > Operation interface. The battle is removed from the system, but I remain in the combat zone.
  • - The sorting algorithm in the diplomacy interface for stations based on their values is not working correctly.
  • - In the Faction > Diplomatic actions interface, every flag appears as the “House Thunder” flag.
  • - After destroying an outpost, I experience a significant FPS drop, and it remains low until I restart the game.
  • - During an Operation, the Capital Dock sections of stations are open, and I dock unintentionally.
  • - After performing a plunder with the Mothership, instead of being inside the station at the end of the battle, it places me inside the mothership.
  • - After restarting the game during a Plunder Operation, enemy soldiers that were level 48 spawn at level 15.
  • - Sometimes, during operations, level -1 enemies spawn.
  • - The war target I set during operations sometimes disappears.
  • - I attend the meeting in the Council mission, but the mission does not progress. (This bug was fixed, but as of Ver 4.1.0, the main story ends at this point.)


IMPORTANT NOTE:
The new update will not affect your current game saves. However, since diplomatic relations have been reorganized, current wars and active operations will be reset. Therefore, if you have a saved game before an operation, you will need to redo the same operation.

IMPORTANT NOTE
: If you have loaded the game from a save file where you had organized an operation in the Integration Station raid but had not yet started the battle, please restart the operation from the Faction interface.

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Wow, that's a ".1" version increment? This developer deserves all the sales he gets.
There are aspects I can criticise like the same layout of planetary systems, and the itemization, but I'm not even sure they are fair to a man operating on this scale and scope.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Is Spacebourne 2 really Mount & Blade levels of good tho? If so Im really gonma have to try it.
The level of jankyness makes it more like a Space Kenshi. If you are ok with it, you should definitely give it a try. The lack of polish is a fair price to pay for the developer vision IMO.
 

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Well kenshi rules, so going to have to pick it up. No damn time these days anyway so I don't know why I bother, but I appreciate the info
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Well kenshi rules, so going to have to pick it up. No damn time these days anyway so I don't know why I bother, but I appreciate the info
It doesn't have the atmosphere or Kenshi or whatever, but for me, it has the same passion visibly pouring througn the jank, if that makes any sense :)
 

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True.
I'm not actually sure what the workable solution to a game area of this scale is though?
Make weapons and parts mostly only purchasable. Make gear drops from enemies somewhat rare and significant, and tied directly to the enemy type. It's an easy solution, and it makes upgrades feel much more special when they happen. It just apparently doesn't appeal to the ADHD minds of today, thus we have this skinner box bullshit where you hardly ever feel a significant boost in power and you run in a colored-coded-random-loot wheel like a hamster. Garbage design.

The messed up thing is that the loot in the first game was handled essentially the way I described would be best above. So this is a literal decline.
 

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Diablo loot? Fucking decline. What a goddamn cancer on RPGs.
I'm 100% okay with Diablo style loot.... IN FANTASY GAMES. It can be done in sci-fi or real world games, sure, but the problem is that they don't make it tonally attuned with the setting. Developers can't seem to scale things back from the crazy stuff which makes sense with magic but only makes sense with magic.
 

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Diablo loot? Fucking decline. What a goddamn cancer on RPGs.
I'm 100% okay with Diablo style loot.... IN FANTASY GAMES. It can be done in sci-fi or real world games, sure, but the problem is that they don't make it tonally attuned with the setting. Developers can't seem to scale things back from the crazy stuff which makes sense with magic but only makes sense with magic.

Depends. Like quality for Diablo loot would still be okay in Sci Fi imo (say, technological advancement, materials, etc.) which can be worked into affixes (possibly). But it still depends on the setting. Like KotOR's magic bullshit lightsaber crystals, robes, etc. really bugged me. It's too D&D in a setting that really shouldn't be about that.
 

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I'm not concerned with the LARPing implications. I'm concerned with how progression feels in an RPG. It generally feels pointless and ridiculously minorly incremental with Diablo style loot. It's unsatisfying and damn near insulting half the time. Insulting because it conveys that the player isn't to be trusted to come up with ways to acquire hard to obtain loot, either through overcoming a seemingly unsurmountable foe, cleverly stowing away funds for a large purchase, or performing extensive exploration and discovering smartly hand-placed equipment that's off the beaten path.

EDIT: Damn, mediocrepoet. Didn't figure you a proponent of this terrible form of progression. I'll have to keep that in mind when it comes to considering your opinions in the future.
 

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I'm not concerned with the LARPing implications. I'm concerned with how progression feels in an RPG. It generally feels pointless and ridiculously minorly incremental with Diablo style loot. It's unsatisfying and damn near insulting half the time.

Depends. I mostly disagree, but it depends on how much crap you're getting showered with and how much of a pain it is to sift through. Anytime it's a lot where you either have or want filters though, that's clearly a sign that things have gone off the rails.
 

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I mostly disagree, but it depends on how much crap you're getting showered with and how much of a pain it is to sift through.
It's damn near consistently demonstrable how minorly incremental it is. Give me an example of a game that uses this form of equipment progression where you feel great leaps in power and able to overcome something that was majorly beating your ass without it. And I'm not talking about after 2-3 minor (which they almost always are) upgrades in between. I can hardly think of any more boring a reward than a GOLD item with RANDOM STATS that is slightly better than what you already have.
 

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I mostly disagree, but it depends on how much crap you're getting showered with and how much of a pain it is to sift through.
It's damn near consistently demonstrable how minorly incremental it is. Give me an example of a game that uses this form of equipment progression where you feel great leaps in power and able to overcome something that was majorly beating your ass without it. And I'm not talking about after 2-3 minor (which they almost always are) upgrades in between.

I'll get right on that. Should we put it in a table and get out a slide rule while we're at it?

Actually, more to the point, have you actually played this one? It sounds like you had. Is the loot that bad?
 

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Actually, more to the point, have you actually played this one? It sounds like you had. Is the loot that bad?
I've watched enough gameplay to see it's in the ballpark of what I really don't care for in this style of equipment progression. There are very few games where it is acceptable to me though, and those are usually games where skill and other forms of progression make for large leaps in power, ala Nioh. I love the Nioh games, but think they'd be 50% better without this garbage in them.

If you're a Diablo II-like or Borderlands fan, then it is what it is. There's sadly a surprising amount of them around here.
 
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Actually, more to the point, have you actually played this one? It sounds like you had. Is the loot that bad?
I've watched enough gameplay to see it's in the ballpark of what I really don't care for in this style of equipment progression. There are very few games where it is acceptable to me though, and those are usually games where skill and other forms of progression make for large leaps in power, ala Nioh. I love the Nioh games, but think they'd be 50% better without this garbage in them.

If you're a Diablo II-like or Borderlands fan, then it is what it is. There's sadly a surprising amount of them around here.

Yeah, I get you. I actually hate the loot in all of the games you just mentioned. :lol: So maybe we're more in alignment than I would've thought.
 

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Yeah, I get you. I actually hate the loot in all of the games you just mentioned. :lol: So maybe we're more in alignment than I would've thought.
It's not going to be enough to ruin this game outright for me, but I think my particularly violent reaction to this is that I have such a huge amount of respect for this developer, and was really looking forward to this game, so it's disappointing to see what I consider to be such degenerate design manifesting itself in Spacebourne 2. I feel like this game will likely have the additional moments of satisfying progression that I mentioned in reference to Nioh to even out this most despicable design choice.

Now is it going to have level-scaling? If that ends up being the case, it'll likely ruin the game for me.
 

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Like quality for Diablo loot would still be okay in Sci Fi imo (say, technological advancement, materials, etc.) which can be worked into affixes (possibly).
My problem is when they do things that shouldn't be possible with the weapon or armor you're using. For example, I'm okay with something along the lines of sunglasses in Fallout 3/New Vegas that give you a +1 to Charisma. What shits me are things in Fallout 4 that add elemental damage to a pipe rifle. I don't like it when a game is supposed to have technological weapons but have abilities that made no sense without them being magic. I'm completely okay with something that adds more accuracy to a pipe rifle or a bit more damage.

I'm not saying SpaceBourne 2 does this. I'm not sure. But I do know there's a lot of developers that just can't help themselves once they start down this path.
 

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