Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Eisenheinrich]

Tranny Gate 3 doesn't count.

Why tho?

It was good at first but I got bored at around 10-15 hours in. With this one I'm still pumped.

Pumped for what?

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Is there any synthetics in the game? Transhumans? (lol). Rogue AI? Devolved/evolved humans? There's a lot of things a space setting can do without aliens.

As far as I can tell, just regular humans. The technology level the universe is at isn't clear, because every settlement ends up being different (Cowboy Town is obviously a bit less tech-y than Cyberpunk Town, for example).

There's no transhumans that I've met, even in Cyberpunk World. There are cosmetic gene clinics where people can change their appearance/sex/race, but the effect of that on society doesn't seem to be discussed, probably because the clinics only exist so that the player can change their characters' appearance.

What an absolute fuck up.

I just got back to the lodge and saw some bellend with a cowboy hat and texshit accent. I couldn't roll my eyes any further back into my skull if I tried. I'm guessing cowboy planet is Akillia or something that they're trying to send me to?

Unbelievably lazy world building... Cowboys in space. Go fuck yourselves.

Any planets that got nuked in the supposed colony wars?

Who is the big bad?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

All the bitching aside, game is super fun to play and to explore if you liked combat and collecting trash in Fallout 4.

The outpost system (settlements in FO4) is vastly improved in Starfield.

So if you liked these aspects, you will like Starfield. It is definitely not a game that will appeal to everyone, certainly not on the codex.

It's fun for what it is, but it's easy to get burned out if you focus too much on the procedurally generated content. Otherwise though, gameplay is ok for a Bethesda game.

 

[Vic]

Tranny Gate 3 doesn't count.

Why tho?

It was good at first but I got bored at around 10-15 hours in. With this one I'm still pumped.

Pumped for what?

the gameplay bro, it's good, if you like looter shooters and exploring procedurally generated dungeons and base building and crafting and farming and gunplay and setting up interconnected outposts like you are playing a 4X game in first person. It's really good man.

 

[Lemming42]

I'm guessing cowboy planet is Akillia or something that they're trying to send me to?

Yeah, that's the one. Minor spoiler: the first thing that happens when you walk into town is that a gang of outlaws are robbing a bank, and the Marshall (wearing a longcoat and star badge) is besieging them. No joke.

The annoying thing is they never even go all out. Like the game could at least be a laugh if it was just full-on bullshit, some assholes building an actual Western town in deep space with a saloon with swing doors and having duels and shit, but instead it's just another fairly boring town with an inexplicable Western veneer. Same for the others, Cyberpunk town could have been funny as fuck if it was full of idiots saying shit like "to get jacked into the 'net you'll need the hottest runner in town, but corpo firewalls can be tough to crack even for the best cyberjackers", but instead it's another boring town full of dull people with a crap derivative aesthetic sheen.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Game is supposed to be far into future. That's how humanity will look like so it's not immersion breaking.

Niggers can't into space, so if we're doing realism arguments then the game should be filled with Chinese people, with a token Serb, Rus and German. Every single nigger would have been wiped out when Earth was destroyed, total nigger death.

I'm sorry, how many Serb astronauts are there? And how many African Americans?

Someone please check and tell us here.

 

[Lemming42]

And how many African Americans?

Mae Jemison, one of the most famous of all time! I've got her autograph.

 

[Dr1f7]

watched some space combat: do ships really not have radar in this game?

 

[Vic]

-There is no local map and I get the impression they are trying to making a bit better use of laying off quest markers when appropriate.

Press F for a GPS

 

[M. AQVILA]

From the let's play videos I've watched, this seems to be Fallout 4 in space as I expected. I've never actually played FO4, but that's what Starfield reminds me of.

I don't know which one is worse, but they each have that characteristic blandness to them.

Of course the woke agenda is more up to date in Starfield, but western games these days seem to have gone full in on gender ideology.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

re: Lemming42 & fizzelopeguss, the cowboy stuff is due to Todd ripping off Firefly big time in coming up with the worldbuilding for this game.

 

[darkpatriot]

-There is no local map and I get the impression they are trying to making a bit better use of laying off quest markers when appropriate.

Press F for a GPS

I use that, but I am talking about the kinds of quests that are typically ruined by quest markers in Bethesda games. The kind that are, "go find this thing that I don't know where it is," and then the quest marker leads you right to the exact spot that thing you don't know where it is is. So far Starfield has been appropriately laying off of doing that and even providing information/clues about where it is in the dialog and quest description. I hope that continues.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The lack of aliens does suck.

I was wondering, are there really no sentient aliens? Man, I'm telling you the game is unfinished. Lots of graphical glitches and stuff like trees spawning on top your base, no swimming, etc. I really hope they will fix it with future updates.

Bro, they've already announced just before this released that TES 6 has started production. Todd is bailing on this pronto to salvage his reputation, I imagine he can't wait to see the back of this game.

Just like with FO76 then?

 

[Vic]

-Re-use of dungeon designs. Despite encountering some really nice level/dungeon design in the first dozen or so dungeons I have done, I have also already encountered one dungeon design copied with only a few modifications.

are you aware that non-story dungeons are procedurally generated?

 

[Vic]

-There is no local map and I get the impression they are trying to making a bit better use of laying off quest markers when appropriate.

Press F for a GPS

I use that, but I am talking about the kinds of quests that are typically ruined by quest markers in Bethesda games. The kind that are, "go find this thing that I don't know where it is," and then the quest marker leads you right to the exact spot that thing you don't know where it is is. So far Starfield has been appropriately laying off of doing that and even providing information/clues about where it is in the dialog and quest description. I hope that continues.

don't all quests have a quest marker?

 

[jaekl]

A lot of people say that if they had a time machine, they'd go back to kill Hitler (though I suppose that's probably not relatable to quite a few posters on this site... Hillary Clinton maybe?) - but I'd like to go back and surgically remove Markus "Notch" Persson's fingers so he could never infect the world of video games with the wretched curse of SURVIVAL CRAFTING

 

[darkpatriot]

-Re-use of dungeon designs. Despite encountering some really nice level/dungeon design in the first dozen or so dungeons I have done, I have also already encountered one dungeon design copied with only a few modifications.

are you aware that non-story dungeons are procedurally generated?

Yes, this was a case of a story dungeon that was reused in a procedural generated one. I was expecting that, but I was a bit alarmed to have run into that so soon. And also a bit alarmed by how much of a copy and paste it was in terms of the dressing and exterior.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I'm guessing cowboy planet is Akillia or something that they're trying to send me to?

Yeah, that's the one. Minor spoiler: the first thing that happens when you walk into town is that a gang of outlaws are robbing a bank, and the Marshall (wearing a longcoat and star badge) is besieging them. No joke.

The annoying thing is they never even go all out. Like the game could at least be a laugh if it was just full-on bullshit, some assholes building an actual Western town in deep space with a saloon with swing doors and having duels and shit, but instead it's just another fairly boring town with an inexplicable Western veneer. Same for the others, Cyberpunk town could have been funny as fuck if it was full of idiots saying shit like "to get jacked into the 'net you'll need the hottest runner in town, but corpo firewalls can be tough to crack even for the best cyberjackers", but instead it's another boring town full of dull people with a crap derivative aesthetic sheen.

Pagliarulo really is a cunt.

 

[Vyvian]

I wonder if NG+ ever leads to anything.
Seen some people say that things do change through them.
Kinda surprised someone hasn't powered through multiple NG+ runs to find out. I would but I don't want my CPU to burn my house down just yet.

 

[Old Hans]

why does every shitty game now have looter shooter mechanics?

they have teams of psychologists who know all the skinner box tricks

 

[Vic]

A lot of people say that if they had a time machine, they'd go back to kill Hitler (though I suppose that's probably not relatable to quite a few posters on this site... Hillary Clinton maybe?) - but I'd like to go back and surgically remove Markus "Notch" Persson's fingers so he could never infect the world of video games with the wretched curse of SURVIVAL CRAFTING

a tragic tale of Notch, he is now a rich lonely guy who lost all meaning in life. there is a documentary on youtube I think. money can't buy happiness

 

[darkpatriot]

-There is no local map and I get the impression they are trying to making a bit better use of laying off quest markers when appropriate.

Press F for a GPS

I use that, but I am talking about the kinds of quests that are typically ruined by quest markers in Bethesda games. The kind that are, "go find this thing that I don't know where it is," and then the quest marker leads you right to the exact spot that thing you don't know where it is is. So far Starfield has been appropriately laying off of doing that and even providing information/clues about where it is in the dialog and quest description. I hope that continues.

don't all quests have a quest marker?

Not for that example I gave.

Spoiler

The owner at the change how your character looks shop lost a datapad with a bunch of private customer information. You can offer to go find it for him. He tells you three shops he visited earlier, but there is no quest marker. You have to remember the shops (they are in the description in the quest journal in case you forgot or didn't pay attention) and go look around for it without the aid of a quest marker.

 

[tritosine2k]

Won't matter after the inevitable '76 treatment

That's the part that surprises me the most.

You'd think that after the way this company fucked its fans with scam after scam, people wouldn't give this PoS a chance.

Yet, here we are again with more of Todd's bullshit.

They were already more transparent than the rest of the industry

We have technical limitations there, frankly.

& that's some euphemistic way to put this
https://www.pcgamer.com/youll-be-ab...6-companions-but-they-wont-follow-you-around/

 

[Vic]

watched some space combat: do ships really not have radar in this game?

space combat and travel is very unfinished as of now, hope this will change

Definitely hold off on this for now if you're looking primarily to have space travel and combat.

 

[Reinhardt]

Niggers can't into space, so if we're doing realism arguments then the game should be filled with Chinese people, with a token Serb, Rus and German. Every single nigger would have been wiped out when Earth was destroyed, total nigger death.

What is exactly preventing Mr. Shekelestein from purchasing a spaceship and filling it with as many niggers as he could?

it would cost him money. persuading dumb goyim to do it on the other hand is free.