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Starsector - RT 2D indie space goodness
Until release?
Better or worse than Space rangers HD?
adrix89
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It's kinda the complete opposite of Space Rangers.
Yeah I still hope they will add single ship in galaxy mode with text based adventures on planets and inside the space hulks and abandoned stations like in SRs. Butt the game is now gearing towards low scale 4X. With colonies added you will have finally initiative to keep the best scans of planets for yourself... and of course explore more. I am still optimistic.
So not really comparable then? Fug it, I'll give it a go.
Combat is real time in Starsector, Space Rangers is phase based. The galaxy is dynamic in SR, static in the base game in SS (Nexerelin can change that). Lots of unique ships that you get to know in SR, while fleets in SS are there so you can either murder or run from them. I like SS combat better though, not that SR is bad or anything. And that's saying something since I really like the combat in SR.
Sarissofoi
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No.
As far as I know(can be wrong) planet ownership still will be static in next update and only player could be build new colonies. Maybe update after... Of course there is also Nex but that its another story.
Whiskeyjack
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The similarity pretty much ends in the planet dynamics and the visuals of taking off/landing on said planets. Battles take place in their own screen (while in SR2 they take place on the same map).
disposable
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7 years in he's redoing the entire trade and economy system literally for the fifth time. Following development of games like these makes me want to claw out my eyes.
Bought it, played a whole bunch. Obviously nowhere close to SR:HD content wise but I loved it anyway, reminded me of SR:HD meets Gratouitous Space Battles kinda (autopilot and superior tatctics all day
). A hidden (rough) gem as far as I'm concerned. Can't wait for the "4x" patch
and the full game in 7 years 
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I am fine with that. As far as every one is better than other and all are functional.
Escape Velocity Nova and Endless Sky reminded me that this game exists. Apparently, I only bought it four years ago. I forget if it used to be free or if there was a demo, but I definitely first started following it long before the name change.
I played it in 2014, when it was basically just a fleet combat game and nothing else, and recall amassing a colossal fleet; I played it again in 2016, when more shit had been added, but pirates you could never outrun badgered you constantly and supplies and fuel were consumed obnoxiously fast, so I dropped it; and I'm playing it again now. Yeah, apparently this guy will take about two decades to finally settle on how the game's systems will work.
Outfitting and combat don't seem to have changed much at all, but now there are actually NPCs, commodities, missions, etc. If there's one thing I do love about this game, it's the sumptuous graphics and UI. I like the ship design aesthetic... kinda reminds me of Japanese mecha anime or arcade games. I'm not too sure what to make of this latest build, but the fact that one of the earliest missions employs stealth to avoid being seen by the degenerate unionized miner-pirate fleet is a very good sign.
I really don't see this as an RTS at all. It's meant to be a space adventure/exploration/combat game in roughly the same vein as Escape Velocity or I guess Space Rangers, except on a decidedly fleet-based scale. I guess my biggest question is whether you can make small fleets of 2-3 medium-sized Millennium Falcon analogues work or if a snowballing gigafleet is always going to be the ultimate goal.
I played it in 2014, when it was basically just a fleet combat game and nothing else, and recall amassing a colossal fleet; I played it again in 2016, when more shit had been added, but pirates you could never outrun badgered you constantly and supplies and fuel were consumed obnoxiously fast, so I dropped it; and I'm playing it again now. Yeah, apparently this guy will take about two decades to finally settle on how the game's systems will work.
Outfitting and combat don't seem to have changed much at all, but now there are actually NPCs, commodities, missions, etc. If there's one thing I do love about this game, it's the sumptuous graphics and UI. I like the ship design aesthetic... kinda reminds me of Japanese mecha anime or arcade games. I'm not too sure what to make of this latest build, but the fact that one of the earliest missions employs stealth to avoid being seen by the degenerate unionized miner-pirate fleet is a very good sign.
I really don't see this as an RTS at all. It's meant to be a space adventure/exploration/combat game in roughly the same vein as Escape Velocity or I guess Space Rangers, except on a decidedly fleet-based scale. I guess my biggest question is whether you can make small fleets of 2-3 medium-sized Millennium Falcon analogues work or if a snowballing gigafleet is always going to be the ultimate goal.
The "4x" patch (player colonies, fleet construction, empire trade) supposedly releases november 30, I'd wait for that before giving it another go, should be goooood.
Yeah, might be a good idea.
So far, I've done the intro missions, then I did a sensor package/derelict salvage mission that required me to take a massively long trip and introduced me to the need to dodge clouds of electrified purple diarrhea, then I took a fuel delivery mission that spawns a scripted fleet of pirates five feet away from whichever wormhole I use to exit the system, guaranteed to catch and engage me no matter what I do unless (perhaps; maybe not even then) my fleet only contains fast ships and I instantly perform an emergency burn.
I didn't like this before, and I still don't now. It's a metagame-y design crutch. It's one thing for existing pirates going about their business to zero in on the player, but spawning some in a guaranteed, inescapable, perfect ambush position is faggoty and stupid.
It's not even that I can't beat them; I almost certainly can. I just didn't bother, because this shit is obnoxious.
Yeah, not the most elegant of implementations.
From the way I phrased my last post, it might have seemed as though I was ready to drop the game.
I didn't.
I didn't.
So what, game is more than playable, mods are great. For the prize you get more than in most AAA games.
Some people are cripplingly autistic morons who refuse to play a game unless and until it's declared totally complete.
Even vanilla Starsector is now quite full of stuff to keep one occupied for dozens of hours at a minimum, but with Nexerelin (that adds player factions, dynamic alliances, etc.), DynaSector, and any selection of the three dozen up-to-date mods that add ships and missions, you're guaranteed hundreds of hours of play.
The ships that modders have added to Starsector are almost universally just as high-quality as the ships in the base game. For example:
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10046.0
Even vanilla Starsector is now quite full of stuff to keep one occupied for dozens of hours at a minimum, but with Nexerelin (that adds player factions, dynamic alliances, etc.), DynaSector, and any selection of the three dozen up-to-date mods that add ships and missions, you're guaranteed hundreds of hours of play.
The ships that modders have added to Starsector are almost universally just as high-quality as the ships in the base game. For example:
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10046.0
My favorite ship:
Whiskeyjack
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Sarissofoi
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OH Yeah baby
Considering I just got done playing the shit out of this game, it's probably going to sit on the shelf for another year or so before I get around to playing through it again (also gives modders time to update and adapt).
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