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Discussion in 'The Boar Studio' started by MF, Jan 9, 2020.

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Which one would make you click on it in the store?

Poll closed Jan 12, 2020.
  1. 1

    8 vote(s)
    15.7%
  2. 2

    9 vote(s)
    17.6%
  3. 3

    10 vote(s)
    19.6%
  4. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 5

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  6. I like the old one better

    25 vote(s)
    49.0%
  7. None of the above

    6 vote(s)
    11.8%
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  1. Sinatar Arbiter

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    The one that doesn't put the PS2 era character model prominently in it.

    IE this one:

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. KeighnMcDeath RPG Codex Boomer

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  3. MF The Boar Studio Patron Developer

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    True, it's not giving any indication of what kind of game it is, nor is it pretty enough to be enthralling on its own. AoD's banner definitely is, as far as I'm concerned ;)

    Yeah I remember Outpost. It wasn't a very good game but I enjoyed it as a kid based on look & feel alone. Sierra definitely nailed that part.
    The problem is that base-building is only 25% to 50% of TO, depending on how you play it. Also, building mostly takes place underground because of the extreme cold. It's still mostly a story-driven RPG and communicating all the elements in a single image is hard.

    I've acted on your advice and changed the store presence two days ago, which seems to be working already, taking into account that I just updated the game to 1.13. I'm tidying up some of my development posts here on the codex to use them as articles for the website -which could also use an update- and Steam announcements. I'll reach out to some other sites when a few more things are in place.

    Not hurtful at all, just truth. I know it strayed a lot from the '70s idiom after a bunch of compromises. The first draft was much more in line with what I was going for.

    In fact, I couldn't let it go and went back to my very first version, spent some more time on it and didn't compromise on anything this time, framed it with some Chesley Bonestell rocks as if you're looking at Titan from one of Saturn's moons without an atmosphere and I'm actually pretty happy with the result:

    70sbannernew.jpg
    And here without the orange 'o' (I'm kind of attached to it)
    70sbannernoorange.jpg

    I mean, it still doesn't tell you much about the game, but does it look groovy or what?

    No, you really can't see Saturn. That picture looks cool, but it's wildly inaccurate. Like I said, I took some artistic license with Titan Outpost, but not so much that you can see space through the haze.

    Yes. The Huygens probe took two pictures on the surface before it died. You can see some pebbles and mostly a lot of fog. The first link you posted.


    I'm inclined to upload the image above right now, but that's recency bias. I'll sleep on it, compile the results from here and make a decision tomorrow. Right now I'm going to take VD's advice to heart and do some more write-ups.
     
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  4. V_K Arcane

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    It does look cool. Although I'd say it conveys more of a 70s space opera feel than hard sci-fi :D
    The orange "o" has to go in this version, you already have an orange planet in the background.
     
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  5. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    I think it looks fantastic. Huge improvement.
     
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  6. frajaq Liturgist

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    anything but the old one

    e: the one above looks dope tho
     
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  7. Egosphere Magister

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    I agree with the above, it's a really big improvement. Easily the best.
     
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  8. HarveyBirdman Savant

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    A New Hope's twin suns is still the most iconic "look, we are in space, but grounded on a planet" shot I've ever seen. If you have anything that can evoke this feeling, then use it.

    [​IMG]

    This looks cool, though maybe a bit dark. The silhouette is a great idea, but it's kind of hard to see. Also, is the object in the center likewise central to the game?
     
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  9. AdolfSatan Magister

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    That second one looks miles ahead of all the other iterations! Now you have something that standa out.
    Perhaps I'd keep looking for the right shade of yellow, or change the colour of the jumping-out effect (sorry, don't have the English vocabulary for this) to violet for extra 70s cheese, but now I'm just talking personal preference.
     
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  10. Bigg Boss Arcane

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    I forgot all about the haze. Thanks.

    I've read on theories about Titan being terraformed with a tidally locked Saturn in the sky, so that explains the confusion. One day I do believe Titan will look like that though since it is only a a hundred million years old or so.
     
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  11. Plane Escapee Your friend Patron

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    Latest one looks great! Previous one that VK commented on was good too though. Would go with the orange O-version. As an alternative to the screenshots, maybe just add something like "a Classical cRPG Odyssey!" or "An Old School cRPG Experience!" in a much smaller white/silver "sci-fi" font (maybe in a plaque) underneath. Maybe "[a/b] with Spacestation-Management Elements!". I think delivering as much defining information as possible in your logo is important if your product/brand isn't already something people recognise.
     
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  12. CappenVarra phase-based phantasmist Patron

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    the orange 'O' has my support; the crowd shouting "orange 'O' bad" have clearly not thought this through
     
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  13. Butter Arcane

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  14. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I think it looks fine aesthetically, but I think you're more likely to get clicks if you sort of tease what the game is in the banner versus plain text.
     
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  15. MF The Boar Studio Patron Developer

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    Alright, thanks for the input everyone! Much appreciated.

    I'm still happy with the new version and it's evoked uniformly positive response, so a slightly altered version of that's going to be it.

    Now, to decide on that orange 'o'.....:shredder:

    Just kidding, I'm using both right now.
     
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