"Support LGBT Rights & Help Create Our PC-RPG Game!" - The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Groves

[ArchAngel]

This game looks really gay. Not gay as in homosexual, just gay.

So it looks happy?

 

[PotatoElemental]

Why do I have the feeling that the kickstarter page is their entire design document aside from a vague plot outline?

Asking for 50k$ for a proof of concept demo is just ridiculous.

Also gay.

 

[I'm Big Into Anal]

cant wait to chow down on some 3rd century COCK

 

[Clockwork Knight]

OK, let me point this out ...



Do you think that during the Three Kingdoms period was "equal rights"? It seems someone played Dynasty Warriors and thought it was historical accurate, most women were mostly mentioned as "wife of" and "daughter of" in Romance, its not as they were a golden age of equal rights, homosexuality even if present was likely not really directly mentioned ("good friend of" instead of "fuckbuddy of"), its a bit like the Greek City States and Rome were that happened but they still had proper wives, something that was in a way acceptable but still within the lines (people were still pushed into getting a proper marriage) , I do not question wanting to bring those aspects to light but I DO question on doing so with 21st century sensibilities in a 3rd century timeframe.

This is why writing historical fiction is hard because you have to adapt to the mentality of the time, not contemporary mentality.

The second bullet point says the player will need to seek the seven dragon balls spectral orbs to keep the balance of nature, and your pet can sniff out cum chi deposits. Being historically innaccurate about gays is the least of the realism issues here

 

[jimmy_pvish]

Wat

 

[Night Goat]

Can one of the RPG Codex China Experts tell us how LGBT-inclusive third-century China was?

Agesilaus LundB Ed123

 

[I'm Big Into Anal]

google image search results for 3rd century china very revealing...

 

[Telengard]

Is it time for us to start posting ancient erotic homosexual Chinese art? Oh wait, this isn't GD.

Anyway, ancient China is much like ancient Greece and Rome, with plenty of male on male action. Plus, ancient China has male slut-concubines.

I imagine this project was inspired by the Passions of the Cut Sleeve, but I can't be arsed to find out if that is indeed true.

 

[Darkzone]

So it looks happy?

"It's gay" in a straight man language means something (dependend on the context) like "it's shit". But i think you know this and you made the reference only to the real meaning of gay, that has been stolen by the LGBT community. And that is pretty gay of this homos.

 

[Jigawatt]

Wang Rong

 

[octavius]

Am I supposed to know that "LGBT" means?

 

[V_K]

Is it time for us to start posting ancient erotic homosexual Chinese art? Oh wait, this isn't GD.

Why should this stop you, really?

Am I supposed to know that "LGBT" means?

So QIA part is all clear to you?

 

[Markman]

lel 1% collected.

With the massive tranny invasion during gamergate you'd thought this would be 1000% funded.
Where are all the faggots with their wallets now? Why isnt Wu pimping this game? Or any other douche with thousands of followers on twitter?
"by fags, for fags"
This is clear case where "gamers don't have to be your audience". Succeeded, by far.

 

[bonescraper]

It's not inclusive enough, you have to incorporate more perversions. Pissing, scat, bestiality, that sort of gentlemanly shit. This would net you at least another 400 dollars

 

[Daedalos]

I don't give a shit what you are, gay, straight, bi, beast, what the fuck ever.. BUT WHY... WHY do some gays have wave their sexuality in the face of society so much?

Look at ME, I'm gay! I'm so gay,.. get it? We're gay! SO GAY DUDE...

WE GET IT. Protip: If you wanna be considered a normal human being and not a freak, then start acting normal.

I don't go around telling everybody how straight I am. LOOK AT ME, I'M A HETEROSEXUAL! LOL.. WEIRD RIGHT?

There's not need for "RPGs" like this, because it's just obvious masquerading as affirmative action towards gays.

Which is uncalled for. All we get are wasted ressources and a bad rpgs and more stereotypical hatred bullshit, which hurts the gay community even more.

Being gay isn't the majority, deal with it.

And if someday some game comes along, that fits the story and setting of being a homosexual in whatever situation it is, so be it, but don't make it, just to make it, and to make a tired old statement about gay rights..

Sigh.

 

[a Goat]

It's not inclusive enough, you have to incorporate more perversions. Pissing, scat, bestiality, that sort of gentlemanly shit. This would net you at least another 400 dollars

You mean $400k.

You seem to have no idea how many fetishists there are and how easy it is to get their wallets open if you make something filling their fantasies.

Btw. they should have made it about lesbians. Add marketing like "models inspired by <celebrity/model/pornstar>", "state of the art tits and ass soft body physics", "visceral bedroom combat system" etc.

Not only they would get funded, but they'd go more viral than Hatred. I mean - Hatred quickly polarised the discussion, but this? You'll have in-fighting between SJW's(whether it objectifies teh wymmynz or is :incloosive, horny teenage boys waging flamewars with fat feminists, conservatards arguing how much it will hurt the children, l1bruls defending it because homo, I mean - total chaos.

 

[Animal]

WHY do some gays have wave their sexuality in the face of society so much?


I don't go around telling everybody how straight I am. LOOK AT ME, I'M A HETEROSEXUAL! LOL.. WEIRD RIGHT?

Well... It is a very common practice for heterosexual males to affirm their sexuality.

Posting pics of hawt women, bragging about sexual prowess...

It's probably a human thing, motivated by need of affirmation or some mating ritual genetic trait.

 

[vonAchdorf]

The whole project reeks of "idea guys". Extremely long list of awesome features, but no one in the team who has experience in either game design or the technical side of development. Well, at least they realized that they needed so much money for the project, that 50k will just net them a prototype.

These guys did a much better job at reaching their audience on KS:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obscurasoft/coming-out-on-top-a-gay-dating-sim-video-game
They even reached a $8.500 stretch goal which allows the player to tweak the hairiness of the guys.

 

[Agesilaus]

Can one of the RPG Codex China Experts tell us how LGBT-inclusive third-century China was?

Agesilaus LundB Ed123

Is it time for us to start posting ancient erotic homosexual Chinese art? Oh wait, this isn't GD.

Anyway, ancient China is much like ancient Greece and Rome, with plenty of male on male action. Plus, ancient China has male slut-concubines.

I imagine this project was inspired by the Passions of the Cut Sleeve, but I can't be arsed to find out if that is indeed true.

Wait, what? Where is all the male on male action in Ancient China?

I think of Ancient China as being pre-Han; you mention Ancient Greece, so I feel like you're kind of on the same page, but the Roman Empire is obviously later.

I am literally unaware of any reference at all to homosexuality in pre-Han China. If you have a single citation, I'd be interested, if only for trivia purposes. I know the fentao story is a reference to homosexuality today, but the ancient source for that story doesn't mention man on man action. I've read the HanFeiZi, and I recall it being in a chapter about rhetoric. Without picking it up again, here is my memory of how it goes:

A king and a young male courtier are walking through a garden, and the courtier is eating a peach. The peach is so delicious that the courtier splits it in half and gives one half to the king so that he may also enjoy it. At the time, the king is pleased that the courtier is so thoughtful. Years later, when the courtier is old and ugly and they are no longer friends, the king remembers the story differently: "that shithead gave me a half-eaten peach!"

HanFeiZi also relates some other stories about the king and courtier, none about homosexuality. The other that I remember is that the courtier took the king's carriage without permission in order to visit his sick mother; the king said "oh such a filial boy, how nice" at the time, but then said "that bastard stole my chariot once, too!" Basically, when the king liked the courtier, all the events were thought of positively, and then when the king hated the courtier they were remembered in a negative light.

I didn't notice anything overtly homosexual about the story, and I assume that interpretation is not mentioned until centuries later. I think the closest the original text gets to homosexuality is Han Fei Zi saying that the king thinks the courtier is young and handsome.

Right now, my understanding is that there are 0 references to homosexuality pre-Han, unless you want to interpret the story in the HanFeiZi as being gay. In which case... you have 1 reference in all of the pre-Han Chinese history. Compare that to Ancient Greece, which I fully agree featured the whole smorgasbord of sexual possibilities.

 

[V_K]

I don't go around telling everybody how straight I am. LOOK AT ME, I'M A HETEROSEXUAL! LOL.

But you kinda do, right here.

 

[Darkzone]

Agesilaus
Have you read it in original chinese (cantonese or mandarin or whatever)? In japanese there are ways to play with different kanjis and their different readings and their different meanings. Is there something like this in chinese?

 

[Shin]

Wait, what? Where is all the male on male action in Ancient China?

I think of Ancient China as being pre-Han; you mention Ancient Greece, so I feel like you're kind of on the same page, but the Roman Empire is obviously later.

I am literally unaware of any reference at all to homosexuality in pre-Han China. If you have a single citation, I'd be interested, if only for trivia purposes. I know the fentao story is a reference to homosexuality today, but the ancient source for that story doesn't mention man on man action. I've read the HanFeiZi, and I recall it being in a chapter about rhetoric. Without picking it up again, here is my memory of how it goes:

A king and a young male courtier are walking through a garden, and the courtier is eating a peach. The peach is so delicious that the courtier splits it in half and gives one half to the king so that he may also enjoy it. At the time, the king is pleased that the courtier is so thoughtful. Years later, when the courtier is old and ugly and they are no longer friends, the king remembers the story differently: "that shithead gave me a half-eaten peach!"

HanFeiZi also relates some other stories about the king and courtier, none about homosexuality. The other that I remember is that the courtier took the king's carriage without permission in order to visit his sick mother; the king said "oh such a filial boy, how nice" at the time, but then said "that bastard stole my chariot once, too!" Basically, when the king liked the courtier, all the events were thought of positively, and then when the king hated the courtier they were remembered in a negative light.

I didn't notice anything overtly homosexual about the story, and I assume that interpretation is not mentioned until centuries later. I think the closest the original text gets to homosexuality is Han Fei Zi saying that the king thinks the courtier is young and handsome.

Right now, my understanding is that there are 0 references to homosexuality pre-Han, unless you want to interpret the story in the HanFeiZi as being gay. In which case... you have 1 reference in all of the pre-Han Chinese history. Compare that to Ancient Greece, which I fully agree featured the whole smorgasbord of sexual possibilities.

well, its kinda gay that some hunky looking fagservant gives him a half eaten peach and the kings says its awesome and then later when he is not hunky anymore he's like no fuck you i dont want your shitty peach
an independent observer could be there at that moment and note that such behavior is pretty gay, maybe it's not extremely gay (else the story would be called 'the cum covered peach') but still not the manly thing to do

but even then this doesn't prove that china was faggy pre-Han because we're talking about the guy ruling the place, maybe peasant fags in villages got publicly castrated, we don't know.

 

[Agesilaus]

Agesilaus
Have you read it in original chinese (cantonese or mandarin or whatever)? In japanese there are ways to play with different kanjis and their different readings and their different meanings. Is there something like this in chinese?

I have only read part of the Han Fei Zi in Chinese; I'm pretty sure I read the story above in English, because I have an English version that contains that chapter somewhere. In almost all my physical copies of ancient chinese texts, the ancient and modern versions are side by side, and I always read the modern unless there's a quote or interesting part that I want to think about (I cannot just sit down and read ancient chinese at length, I'm just not that good at it yet).

As for playing with words, yes, you can do that. There are a lot of homophones, but my experience with that is more with Modern Chinese (and I haven't studied how words were pronounced in Ancient China). I'm more familiar with Ancient Greek wordplays; one example is at the beginning of Aristophanes' Wasps, where an eagle grabs a snake (which is the same as shield) and then transforms into Cleonymous and drops it (a reference to cowardice in battle).

 

[tindrli]

just cant believe what im seeing.. i mean ffs..

 

[vonAchdorf]

It's generally a problem when you try to read history through the lens of modern identity politics.