SW:TOR

[racofer]

You can't romance him, the female smuggler romance is Corso Riggs. This ain't Mass Effect, you can only romance humans and human looking races like zabrak or twi'lek. Also in Star Wars everyone is straight.

Oh, the audacity!

 

[Ulminati]

Stuff

Imperial Agent storyline is BY FAR the best of the bunch. It is mainly marred by the fact that (like all the other stories) it is 100% linear. But it's well written. It starts off a little slow but definately picks up steam. It also stands out as the only path in which NPCs/your superiors compliment you on making pragmatic choices rather than just LOL DARKSIDE!!!!! The VAs do a passable job at delivering their lines. The brit accent of the female VA in paticular offered decent aural stimulation. They even managed an OK ending, although the big reveal on your antagonist felt a little forced. I'd watch the entire arc as a popcorn flick.

Like you said. Play Jedi Knight if you want to be Luke Skywalker. Play smuggler if you want to be Han solo. Pay consultard if you enjoy watching paint dry.


Play imperial agent if you want to be James bond crossed with a lithaunian hitman and mission impossible.

 

[Shadenuat]

Play smuggler if you want to be Han solo.

I play him like Tuco from Good Bad&Ugly - dude who cares about family and have some honor, but shoots anyone who double-crosses him (a Dark Sider). I was recently at Alderaan, and two nobles hired my guy to make a duel with other noble, cause one never trained with blaster and was palewhite afraid. So I picked "Draw!" at the beginning of dialogue while duelist was talking and in few secs shot him AND got my gun back into my holster with a cowboyish like elegancy, and guy started screaming "TIS NOT FAAAAAIR" like a little girl. Shit was hilarious.

Also in Star Wars everyone is straight.

I should have commented on that one and explained a bit further, but editing time expired. What I wanted to say is: the writing in SWTOR is much more "medieval" or even "dark age" Bioware, if you catch me, many more "by the book" characters involved, and I don't really hate anyone in this game (for now). In Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect, I hated most of the characters to the point where I had troubles making a group. So here a lot of them are dry and by the book, but I would rather take by the book instead of new-gen gays, lesbians, emos, etc.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Played a ridiculous 4 or 5 hours with buddybro, me going sith warrior he going sith inquisitor. Super duper easy so far (We only just reached level 10) but it's enjoyable. Bioware RPG actually translates better in to MMO form than single player RPG, since you're half paying attention to the story and dialog and half paying attention to brotalk, which usually involves making fun of the dialog anyway. Still feel shameful about spending a princely sum of $22 for a Bioware game, but I am having a good time so far.

 

[Morgoth]

665 drones worked on SWTOR

 

[Morgoth]

BioWare just threw people en masse at SWTOR​

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So much for the good old BioWare mantra "Quality in the workplace, quality in the poduct".​

 

[Xor]

Reminds me of a quote from a Blizzard manager about WoW. I can't find the exact quote, but it basically stated that even though WoW is profitable, just throwing money at the problem and hiring more people would only create more problems and ultimately slow development down even more because of difficulties in integrating people into their development process.

 

[abija]

75 designers to copy wow and not even manage to be up to date ^^

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Unnnnnnnnngh played smuggler with a different bro who played trooper up to level 11 and got to fleet, still having fun. I did hear things go downhill after the first planet/after you get your ship, but then again I heard the performance was bad (It's pretty good) and the game was bad (Having a good time duoing with buddies) so maybe it was all bullshit.

 

[Excidium]

The performance isn't terrible but it's really below what you'd expect from such dated graphics. And you better play Empire mang, otherwise you won't be able to fight HK-47 and Revan.

 

[Shadenuat]

I heard the performance was bad

My PC is below recommended settings with awful 2GB of DDR2, and I manage to play game allright (including PVP and OPS), though still get memory leaks, crashes and bugs from time to time. It certanly could be better, but not a freezefest, which is a relief concidering what a pile of old dusty junk my machine is.

I did hear things go downhill after the first planet/after you get your ship

I'd say for a smuggler they get better.

and the game was bad (Having a good time duoing with buddies) so maybe it was all bullshit.

It's a solid Star Wars experience and you can have a lot of fun with it if you forgive rough edges.
But:
- It lacks any kind of innovation and a lot of social features (to a point that guild banks were't included in your basic game which made a lot of clans really mad).
- Lacks ambition. You don't really have a ship, you just travel from one static location to another. Critical story keypoints do not really make any difference in a long run. Companions don't change your playing experience that much... ecetera, ecetera.
- It tries to be Star Wars really hard, to the point where the game itself kinda does't have it's own personality. Even original KOTOR was a bit more personified, it looked and feeled older than original 6 movies, with it's metal blades, ruins, and planets like Manaan or Korriban. SWTOR developers (from a marketing team, my guess) wanted to be sure that every class, every character, every sound reminds people what universe they are in: the empire fighters look and sound like in episode IV, there is Vader-like nemesis and Emperor in a hooded cloak, a mon-calamri general... this makes SWTOR rememorable as Star Wars, but not as a game with it's own personality.
But could anyone, in sane mind, expect anything better from a EA/Bioware duo?

otherwise you won't be able to fight HK-47

HK-47 is a minor boss in the last Republiqwan story Flash Point

 

[Mangoose]

I did hear things go downhill after the first planet/after you get your ship

I'd say for a smuggler they get better.

That means you're enjoying the Hamburger Helper storyline, as she wrote post-20 Smuggler.

 

[Shadenuat]

That means you're enjoying the Hamburger Helper storyline, as she wrote post-20 Smuggler.

Huh. Maybe a strict no gayness policy is good for her.
But I do play male smuggler.. makes me wonder what a female one would do with all those girls I classy hump-n-dumped...
...eh, it's better not to know, I think.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I did hear things go downhill after the first planet/after you get your ship

I'd say for a smuggler they get better.

That means you're enjoying the Hamburger Helper storyline, as she wrote post-20 Smuggler.

OH NO. My smuggler hasn't yet hit 20, now I'm terrified! 20's probably when the arc of getting your ship back ends, and the arc of space sodomy begins.

Also tried my first battleground PVP thing. Performance WAS pretty bad there, but that may be because I played it after an hour+ of adventuring and doing Esseles and TOR gets super bloated after a while. Since everyone gets lumped together I felt kinda useless compared to the higher levels, even though it scales my HP and damage some I guess.

Also also, do get the feeling this could be a damn multiplayer action RPG, and would be way more fun there. Bump up the difficulty, lower the grind, keep the rest of the gameplay basically as-is. Naturally they wouldn't do that for a half a billion dollar budget, but eh. I haven't really had a massively multiplayer vibe yet, it seems best playing with one or two friends since the multiplayer dialog (Which is fucking great. Even with Bioware generic writing, having a lightside trooper and darkside smuggler being bipolar during quests is a damn good time) only seems to do up to 4 players, and even the biggest raids and crap that I've heard of are 8 player. Sorta has me torn on continuing to subscribe after a while, but the brofists are still flying so I guess I'll see what happens. Just to reiterate, the dialog is SO DAMN FUN WITH BROS HOLY HECK THIS WAS BIOWARE'S CALLING.

 

[Black]

Quit yer bitchin, Cow.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Slowing way down on this. Not sure I'll go past the first month. Even though the dialog and brotimes were fun in the beginning, the combat is harshing my mellow as time goes on. It's certainly functional, but ehhhhhhh. I repeat the same button presses over and over with little variation most of the time, which wears me down. STO has far less of that to its credit.

 

[anus_pounder]

Slowing way down on this. Not sure I'll go past the first month. Even though the dialog and brotimes were fun in the beginning, the combat is harshing my mellow as time goes on. It's certainly functional, but ehhhhhhh. I repeat the same button presses over and over with little variation most of the time, which wears me down. STO has far less of that to its credit.

This. So much.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I've always wondered how many people switched from TOR to STO (saw plenty of low level Darth Maul lookalikes a few weeks back), or chose STO over TOR.

 

[Excidium]

http://www.swtor.com/weekendpass

 

[Xor]

That was fast.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I got a weeks trials, guessing because i was in beta.


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[Menckenstein]

I made an Imperial Agent. Targeting is a fucking mess in this game. Had to pan out to the moon to make sure I click the right enemy to attack first when they're clustered. glad I didn't buy this crap.

 

[1451]

Seven days trial has the same limitations. I think it's a fun to play game if you are interested in the story aspect. Game has some nice and well implemented ideas about use of companions but gameplay wise it's just a wow clone.
Worth buying and playing for a month but a subscription seems meaningless/redundant.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Important update on my TOR experience:

 

[Excidium]

That's the guy you fry alive on quesh?

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Nope. That was my sith warrior's story on Nar Shaddaa. Some other sith was doing business with some hutts and my master didn't want that so he sent me there to do business with them instead. I killed everyone including the huts and rode away into the night on my space segway.

Bro I was playing smuggler with is burning out hardcore on it, as opposed to my slower burnout. Bro I play sith warrior with will probably be playing long after I leave, so I've been plugging along on that character mostly. I do gotta say a few positive things about TOR even though my complaint about the combat still seems to be the case. I like the "Orange" item system with modifications, orange items basically just being cosmetic changes and the actual stats depending on the mods. Lets you pick some items you like the look of and stick with them which is kinda cool. I also appreciate that you can outlevel dungeons a bit and then duo them with a buddy with companions relatively well. Me and buddybro duoed Athiss at level 25 and had a relatively easy time of it apart from a wipe on THE BEAST because the asshole monster was so big I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on 90% of the time and wasn't pulling aggro off of my sorc buddy.