Decline Sword Coast Legends Pre-Release Thread

[Shannow]

Considering your complete overreaction to "Neverwinter", your complete overreaction to some bugs and oversights is not surprizing and any kind of rational discussion seems pointless.
But just for the kicks: Name one cRPG with a more faithful adaption of 3rd ed. Hell, name one cRPG with a more faithful adaption to any D&D ed in the last 20 years.

Aww, did I "overreact" and then throw you a softball, you little dunce? I wouldn't expect one such as you to even know what I'm talking about, conceived as you were as a result of your mother strutting around town with a mattress tied to her back. Count me as surprised you even had the impudence to respond. Ferals, these days...

I thought you might simply be in the grip of the red flow. But this seems to more a case of you not taking your meds. Duly noted.

Well, ToEE is what I'd call a faithful adaption.

Except that glavies and other polearms had doughnut reach, cleave and great cleave stacked with whirlwind (meaning a fighter could clear a room of 30 bugbears in one round), and about a million other unbalancing bugs and oversights, yeah?

Considering your complete overreaction to "Neverwinter", your complete overreaction to some bugs and oversights is not surprizing and any kind of rational discussion seems pointless.
But just for the kicks: Name one cRPG with a more faithful adaption of 3rd ed. Hell, name one cRPG with a more faithful adaption to any D&D ed in the last 20 years.

Knights of the Chalice?

What Grunker and Gulnar said.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Saw a new interview with the WOTC D&D manager and the head of N-Space. Goes into the WOTC/Atari issues and a few details about SCL.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/01/h...d-set-and-on-the-bleeding-edge-on-realmslore/

The fact of the matter is that for a long time, we had our video game publishing rights in a long-term agreement with Atari. Its publishing strategy for D&D games didn’t match my strategy exactly, but I’ve only been on the brand for three years. They brought me in at Wizards to run D&D, primarily because of my video game experience in the past. Right before I came on, they had ended their agreement, their relationship with Atari and said, we want to take the rights back. We want to manage this. We want to make the great D&D games we know our fans want. We don’t think that having someone else control our rights is the right way to do it.

We didn’t think Atari was doing the best job, so we were able to end that. I say that all nice and fuzzy because I wasn’t in the middle of it, but the fact of the matter is there was litigation over the deal. This wasn’t the best ending of a relationship.

GamesBeat: The Sword Coast, that’s a huge expanse of territory. Does this also include the Sword Coast North?

Tudge: Oh, you differentiate between the two? Yes, there are portions of the Sword Coast North that we’re visiting.

I think a theme there is that this is the base game. We have a long tail planned for supporting it. We have a long-term partnership together. We’ll be telling stories together for a long time. It’ll become way more apparent as we roll out each new story theme that we’re telling during this time as to what areas and locations become necessary.

You’ll have one to four players in the party. Those players can meet up with other real players or characters you’ve met in the game. You can still play by yourself with three additional A.I. party members. Then the DM joins in as a real-time DM.

Right from the get-go, we wanted to make sure that, having been a DM — there’s a lot of work involved in preparing and having a campaign ready. We wanted to give people the opportunity to immediately jump in and start playing as a DM. We focused heavily on the real-time aspect of that. We have offline campaign tools that allow DMs to create very lengthy, almost limitless campaigns. But we’re not talking a lot about that right now.

In a lot of respects we’re the bleeding edge on Realms lore as it gets put together.

But because N-Space is, in essence, an extension of us and we’re all part of the same team, what you’re going to see in the official game canon in there is that they’re going to be very true to the stories and canon that we’re telling, in terms of gods and deities and their power and whether Lolth is or is not in the Abyss and stuff.

I know for a fact that the R&D team and your design team are really driving deep into magic items right now. You should expect to see lots of cool Forgotten Realms magic stuff in there.

 

[imweasel]

You’ll have one to four players in the party. Those players can meet up with other real players or characters you’ve met in the game. You can still play by yourself with three additional A.I. party members. Then the DM joins in as a real-time DM.

A.I. party members? Like in Dragon Age: Inquisition or what?

 

[SwiftCrack]

Truly the Tales of the Sword Coast of our time.

 

[Trodat]

Sword Coast North is technically where? IWD?

 

[Infinitron]

Sword Coast North is technically where? IWD?

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_Coast_North

 

[Athelas]

In a lot of respects we’re the bleeding edge on Realms lore as it gets put together.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

A.I. party members? Like in Dragon Age: Inquisition or what?

Saw a dev comment on this. Will just leave it here to chum the waters a bit

It implies that if you play by yourself the other three characters will be AI-controlled, not controlled by you. I hope this is not the case, I'd rather control my party like in BG2.

You control your party members and can switch between them at any time. You can set up some great combos this way.

 

[imweasel]

Good, I would have written this game off otherwise.

BTW, here is the source.

 

[tuluse]

A.I. party members? Like in Dragon Age: Inquisition or what?

Saw a dev comment on this. Will just leave it here to chum the waters a bit

It implies that if you play by yourself the other three characters will be AI-controlled, not controlled by you. I hope this is not the case, I'd rather control my party like in BG2.

You control your party members and can switch between them at any time. You can set up some great combos this way.

"Switch between characters" Yeah that's basically DA:I/ME style party control confirmed.

 

[Grunker]

^ sounds like

 

[Shannow]

A.I. party members? Like in Dragon Age: Inquisition or what?

Saw a dev comment on this. Will just leave it here to chum the waters a bit

It implies that if you play by yourself the other three characters will be AI-controlled, not controlled by you. I hope this is not the case, I'd rather control my party like in BG2.

You control your party members and can switch between them at any time. You can set up some great combos this way.

"Switch between characters" Yeah that's basically DA:I/ME style party control confirmed.

How is it different from Daahoh or NWN2?

 

[Bubbles]

How is it different from Daahoh or NWN2?

You could select multiple characters at a time, if only to move them.

 

[Sothpaw]

How is it different from Daahoh or NWN2?

You could select multiple characters at a time, if only to move them.

If you can't select multiple characters at one time I don't think I can buy this game. I actually just beat DAI because apparently I hate myself, but I just can't go through a mess like that again.

 

[Lilura]

How is it different from Daahoh or NWN2?

You could select multiple characters at a time, if only to move them.

You could select multiple characters using marquee select (drag box over) or shift-click; then either move them as a group or click an enemy so they auto-attack.

 

[tuluse]

A.I. party members? Like in Dragon Age: Inquisition or what?

Saw a dev comment on this. Will just leave it here to chum the waters a bit

It implies that if you play by yourself the other three characters will be AI-controlled, not controlled by you. I hope this is not the case, I'd rather control my party like in BG2.

You control your party members and can switch between them at any time. You can set up some great combos this way.

"Switch between characters" Yeah that's basically DA:I/ME style party control confirmed.

How is it different from Daahoh or NWN2?

No different from DA:O's over the shoulder mode, but it featured a real tactical mode.

NWN2 sucks balls too, so "as good of controls as NWN2" would make me avoid it.

 

[Trodat]

Dan Tudge ‏@DanTudge 1 t1 tunti sitten
Ready to roll on SCL demos!

Cool looking menu screen.

Maybe they'll show us some character creation or inventory screenies as well.

 

[Shannow]

Ok. I don't mind the whole "A.I. controls party members" too much. Especially when you can set up the A.I. like in Daahoh (though it should have been far more sophisticated). But it sure isn't what I'd call tactical. On the other hand, good tactics was already out when they decided against TB and for RTwP. So this AI stuff can actually provide something, that wouldn't be in with TB... *shrug*
While I'm risking even more future gloating I'll just point out, that if one was inclined to interpret their statements more positively, one could also read the description of IE games with scripts into that statement. It doesn't need to mean that that type of control is not in.

 

[agris]

What the fuck is Daahoh? Dragon Age: Origins? Is reddit slipping mercury into your water?

 

[DarkArcher]

Isn't this game more like a MOBA inspired version of Neverwinter? It's cross-platform which means it probably is meant to be played with a gamepad. Clearly more Diablo III and less Baldur's Gate.

I want a game where my low level spells/abilities still have value later in the game. Could we also have more than 5 actions available?

 

[imweasel]

Can Sword Coast Legends Bring Left 4 Dead to Dungeons & Dragons?

 

[Bubbles]

Can Sword Coast Legends Bring Left 4 Dead to Dungeons & Dragons?

Doesn't seem very popular with the crowd over there:

I wish someone could do a game like this but in 1st person or 3rd person (over shoulder) view. Neverwinter Nights already did this in the past, it was fun as long as you have a good Dungeon Master, but birds-eye-Diablo-view? Not in 2015, come on.

I want to immerse myself into the fantasy world and role play my character. Can't do this in a birds eye view cause it breaks the immersion. To me, the game feels like a budget-Diablo wannabe. It's a Diablo game but rather than having a complex AI and scripted events, you have a player Dungeon Master do everything for you.

They should copy that D&D event in Fable 3, where 3 nerd NPCs shrink your hero with magic and place you in their "D&D" world and spawn monsters and have a quirky story that they role play for you and you gotta fight your way through it! Simply because the camera is 3rd person/overshoulder, I'm able to immerse myself and really feel like I'M IN THE GAME!

Sounded good until they said Dragon Age combat. That game had a great story but the combat and animation was boring and not fun. I wish more games look at Dragons Dogma and Dark Souls for inspiration for combat

 

[Shannow]

It's cross-platform which means it probably is meant to be played with a gamepad.

Where did you get that from?
This only mentions PC (and Steam *yuck*), and I don't remember reading anything about consoles.

 

[Ramireza]

Can Sword Coast Legends Bring Left 4 Dead to Dungeons & Dragons?

 

[Luzur]

Can Sword Coast Legends Bring Left 4 Dead to Dungeons & Dragons?

Are they sick in the head??

L4D?

There died my hopes for this game.