Decline Sword Coast Legends Pre-Release Thread

[Delterius]

Worst case: Beamdog won't even be allowed to release Siege of Dragonspear.

In before, that's a win.

 

[Volrath]

And it's about as close to D&D ruleset as SCL itself.

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BTW, I hope you people realize that we just can't win here. If SCL is a success (unlikely), WotC will think that MMO-like combat with cooldowns is the way to go, at least for CRPGs. And if it's a failure, they'll play it safe and it'll be quite some time before we see another D&D-based game. Worst case: Beamdog won't even be allowed to release Siege of Dragonspear.

And nothing of value would be lost

 

[ArchAngel]

And it's about as close to D&D ruleset as SCL itself.

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BTW, I hope you people realize that we just can't win here. If SCL is a success (unlikely), WotC will think that MMO-like combat with cooldowns is the way to go, at least for CRPGs. And if it's a failure, they'll play it safe and it'll be quite some time before we see another D&D-based game. Worst case: Beamdog won't even be allowed to release Siege of Dragonspear.

Actually it is closer to 3e than SCL is to 5e. The spell point system in practice works like PnP with limited resting spots in dungeons.

Also they had many of the skills and feats 3e had and they were very useful. Only real change to PnP was how they had to split each level into 4 sublevels and minor bonuses you would get from those sublevels.

Also magic items at mid levels and above became much more powerful than in PnP.

 

[Lhynn]

And it's about as close to D&D ruleset as SCL itself.

Not really, much closer, mages learn spells from scrolls, itemization is almost exactly the same as in D&D, so are class abilities, and you also get to multiclass. Plus eberron is very well represented.
Fucking ignorant assholes everywhere.

 

[Bubbles]

Apparently it's very easy to get a Steam refund for the game, even after playing through the single player campaign. That's the problem with the way they're handling head start access: it prevents players from posting Steam reviews about the game (good for n-space), but it also makes it simple to get a refund from Steam just by canceling your pre-order (bad for n-space).

I wonder how many pre-orders will be left after the 4-day trial period is over.

 

[Dorateen]

they'll eventually have the sense to do some market research, figure out who their (cRPG) audience is and choose an appropriate developer to make the damn thing (larian, inXile, obsidian, etc)

TSI Games.

 

[ArchAngel]

If you guy find juicy stuff to read on their forums or Steam do gives us a link. The drama is more interesting than the game.

 

[sstacks]

So, here.

This episode: character creation and initial campaign intro / combat.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Damn, sstacks, couldn't you have uploaded this an hour earlier? I just finished my pizza

 

[Dedup]

heck I wouldn't be against a good non-cRPG/D&D game set in the Forgotten Realms.Maybe a telltale adventure game type thing would be nice or even just a good dark soul-esque console type action/exploring game could be nice (if they so desperately want to be 'mainstream')

I would personally love to see a Dragon's Dogma type game with D&D races, classes and setting.

 

[Reinhardt]

This "fog of war" thing make my head hurt.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

 

[Zdzisiu]

We need a video of Swen slowly realizing what an utter piece of shit this game is, and how restrictive it makes the whole DM mode.

 

[ArchAngel]

We need a video of Swen slowly realizing what an utter piece of shit this game is, and how restrictive it makes the whole DM mode.

I think being a DM with not too big of expectations is the best part of the game. He might have fun with it.

 

[Semper]

I think being a DM with not too big of expectations is the best part of the game. He might have fun with it.

hopefully it will serve as an inspiration how NOT to do it. alas i doubt that.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Some good news at least, legendary foes are in the game

possible story spoiler I guess

demogorgon?
few minutes ago i finished quest with "mysterius stranger" and at the end i fought with monster, which was named "demogorgon" Come on dear devs - one of the most powerfull monster in D&D(demodragon or demolich are most powerfull imo) was killed after near 1 minute What are you did with demogorgon??!!

 

[sstacks]

Because I know you just can't get enough:

This episode: Let's load up on side quests and then engage in some obligatory yet hoped for combat, plus join up with some new companions that we trust instantly. Hey, it's a game what are ya gonna do?

Edit: Oh yeah, I almost choke to death on my coffee. Some people don't like that, but luckily I was able to raise up like a revenant and keep going.

 

[sstacks]

I think being a DM with not too big of expectations is the best part of the game. He might have fun with it.

My experience with DM mode is it's actually pretty fun and there are a lot of options and features.

My main complaint with SCL is it's not turn based combat and it's got a lot of 5E features but it is not a full implementation of 5E. It's an action RPG with cooldowns, etc.

If you set aside your RPG purist desires (and yes, this is the Codex I get that!) it's a cool game... it's just not a deep chewy classic cRPG along the lines of what many of us like.

 

[sstacks]

Also let me say when you play solo and go RTWP, it changes the game feel quite a bit, less action RPGish like co-op is.

 

[Renevent]

Are you really reading every line of dialog out loud? Between that, and choking on your coffee you may just be the worst Let's Play youtuber of all time.

 

[sstacks]

Are you really reading every line of dialog out loud? Between that, and choking on your coffee you may just be the worst Let's Play youtuber of all time.

I gotta keep it real, yo. By the way, I'm fine after the near death experience with the choking thanks for asking.

 

[ArchAngel]

Some good news at least, legendary foes are in the game

possible story spoiler I guess

demogorgon?
few minutes ago i finished quest with "mysterius stranger" and at the end i fought with monster, which was named "demogorgon" Come on dear devs - one of the most powerfull monster in D&D(demodragon or demolich are most powerfull imo) was killed after near 1 minute What are you did with demogorgon??!!

I bet he has also level scaled :D

 

[vonAchdorf]

German Gamester magazine is "optimistic" in their First Impressions article, after playing the game for 12 hours. They even title: "Finally D&D again" - but in their article they notice, that it's only "nearly D&D, purists have to be brave and beware dual sword wielding casters in plate armor".

I couldn't care less about D&D fidelity, it's a mostly retarded system anyway, but watching Shane's LP, the game looks super annoying. Sorry, quest hubs and side-quest dispensers don't cut it for me anymore.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

, that it's only "nearly D&D, purists have to be brave and beware dual sword wielding casters in plate armor".

Purists lol."FPS purists beware the game X is not first person and you kinda shooting"

 

[sstacks]

I bet he has also level scaled :D

All joking aside I think all bosses level scale, not sure about regular mobs but I think they may as well.

And in DM mode they can be buffed, debuffed, disappeared or brought in at will by DM.