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Vapourware System Shock 3 by OtherSide Entertainment - taken over by Tencent!

Terenty

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I actually believe if they go the kickstarter route they'll be able to rake in about a million. Just say the game is from the creators of Deus ex, almost complete and post some bullshots.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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Wasn't this game on kickstarter to begin with? Or was that just the remake of the original?
Underworld Ascendant by OtherSide Entertainment and System Shock (reboot/remake) by Nightdive Studios were both on Kickstarter, raising respectively $860,356 and $1,350,700, but System Shock 3 by OtherSide has not (yet) been kickstarted.
 

ZeniBot

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To be fair at least everyone was laid off. Nothing worse than a lockout because it means no one is getting paid.
This could've been worse. And Warren is most definitely confirmed cursed now. This is like the 3rd time now that this has happened on his watch. (Invisible War (*almost died they barely were able to ship), Junction Point (died in development), System Shock 3).
 

hexer

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They don't need money at this point. They need people to actually make the game and it looks like there's no one there.

I can imagine the lone CEO being locked up in the empty offices simultaneously going through C++ and 3D modeling tutorials while nervously looking through window blinds from time to time checking if the debt collectors finally arrived
 

Grauken

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Seriously, why is this happening? Why have they mismanaged this prohect so bad?

Managers who have always worked in larger organizations and aren't able to adapt to smaller teams with significantly smaller budgets burn through money really fast
 

hexer

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Managers who have always worked in larger organizations and aren't able to adapt to smaller teams with significantly smaller budgets burn through money really fast

Managers are a cancer of any creative company.
Sometimes you miss the deadline because it's only a few of you working on a big project, not because you can't organize yourself
 

Grauken

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I wouldn't go so far, you need people to organize projects, call them managers or whatever, team leaders, doesn't really matter. The real problem is that most managers are really bad at managing, and in large organizations get promoted less due to real skills and more due to politics. Even then, being a good manager in a large orga is completely different from one in very small teams, and if you don't change your approach fast, it can lead to terrible mismanagement
 

hexer

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I worked in a corporation where out of 14 managers that were involved in a project only one (!!) had technical competence to actually understand what we were doing.
All the others had to be re-educated from time to time about what exactly they were responsible for.
But that's a larger issue, related to the corruption in the company and country
 

Grauken

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I worked in a corporation where out of 14 managers that were involved in a project only one (!!) had technical competence to actually understand what we were doing.
All the others had to be re-educated from time to time about what exactly they were responsible for.
But that's a larger issue, related to the corruption in the company and country

14 managers for one project sounds a bit overkill
 

hexer

Guest
What the actual fuck.

A government-owned bank where 85% of employees have a credit loan, do nothing all day, and bank earns more money off them than it loses.
It was just the 15% of us fools working hard to keep the place from falling apart.
 

MasterLobar

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Starbreeze's Q4 2019 report is out.
https://www.starbreeze.com/sbz-media/2020/02/Starbreeze-Year-End-Report-Q4-2019.pdf

Still says "The sale of the publishing rights to System Shock 3 and Psychonauts 2 was arranged so that Starbreeze will recover its investment over time." (p.26, emphasis added) as they did in Q1 through Q3. I think they take this as just describing the technicalities of how IFRS treats the resale of the publishing rights. Still sounds like a legal risk to me that they say they "will recover" their investment, although it must be clear to them they will not get a penny from Otherside.

In their Q1 2019 report, they also said that "Starbreeze expects to be fully compensated for the costs the company has incurred in connection with development of the game." (p.4)
https://www.starbreeze.com/sbz-media/2019/05/Starbreeze-Interim-Report-Q1-2019.pdf

That language has been absent in all reports since Q2 2019. They know they dumped all their money in a bottomless pit.
 

Katana1000S

Angrier OtherSide Refugee
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Why do the news sites keep linking to page 76? The dev started posting in page 71.


The bad news started on page one post one, thank god it never came to fruition, an SS3 would be fine if done sincerely, but look what they did with Underworld Ascendant, we had a lucky escape with these morons in charge, the would have fucked it up so badly ... none of us should have any doubt about that.

Can you imagine how it would have panned out, they would have probably even have given it a ridiculous new moniker like they did with UA to appeal to half wits like Razorfist and Efe ... something like "SS3 the Arcade adventure" run on walls and ceilings, "parkour the fuck out of Shodan with our (bleah) innovative (sic) exciting new arcade gameplay" memes.

Thank fuck these buffoons never got to ruin this franchise too. Nobody likes to see people lose jobs, of course not, but perhaps now they can go onto something more suited to their talents (they had it but lost it) and leave the franchise open for someone/some team to do it proper justice in the future, some team more committed to the task of creating a worthy follow up to one of the best PC franchises of all time.
 

MasterLobar

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Hadn't they believed those liars at OS, Starbreeze wouldn't have gone bankrupt last December. The $7 million they wasted on SS3 killed them and cost the Starbreeze CEO who made the deal with OS his job.
 

hexer

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isnt it normal for a CEO to lose his job after a big bad decision?

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Still running Interplay after ruining Fallout and Black Isle Studios
 

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