Takedown: Red Sabre, aka "Hardcore Tactical Shooter"

[DwarvenFood]

WHOA

I thought this was supposed to be a scam.

What makes you think it's not ?

 

[Zewp]

I was hoping for a return to my Rainbow Six 3 days, but it seems I will be setting myself up for disappointment.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[grudgebringer]

breaching doors is p.cool. but that means there should be locked doors in missons, right? on video it looks more like he can just open them.

 

[Zewp]

Well, to hell with this game. I'll just go download Rainbow Six 3 again.

 

[Keshik]

That timer is rather poorly placed at the upper center.

 

[Carrion]

breaching doors is p.cool. but that means there should be locked doors in missons, right?

Not really. If there's a terrorist on the other side of the door pointing a gun at a hostage's head, breaching the door might be a wise choice even if it isn't locked. Kind of ridiculous how he places the charge right at the center of the door and blows the whole thing to bits, though.

 

[DefJam101]

This seems to be a game that, while decently fun in its own right, lacks many features of the titles that inspired it. Therefore, it will almost certainly be shielded from all "hipster" criticism by a bunch of people who have never played Swat 3 or Rogue Spear. Those defenders who insist the game isn't boring will then get bored of the game and move on. We've seen this with Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Serious Sam (to a degree), almost every MMO released in the past 10 years, every OLDSKOOL SHOOTER revival attempt in the past ten years, Tribes: Ascend... Good to see tactical shooters joining the party!

This is of course speculation. Maybe the surprise popularity of ArmA will give people some perspective.

 

[Shadowfang]

breaching doors is p.cool. but that means there should be locked doors in missons, right?

Not really. If there's a terrorist on the other side of the door pointing a gun at a hostage's head, breaching the door might be a wise choice even if it isn't locked. Kind of ridiculous how he places the charge right at the center of the door and blows the whole thing to bits, though.

Yeah it looks like crap. Raven Shield did a much better job 10 years ago.

If we weren't 2 days away from release i would expect this to be still work in progress.
When asked about it, the FPS modding legend, Christian Allen replied:

When you place the charge you go into third person an regenerate health.

The PR skills of this guy are amazing. Every time someone points out a flaw of the game he lashes out and tells people to go play COD instead.

 

[Infinitron]

Every time someone points out a flaw of the game he lashes out and tells people to go play COD instead.

...we need to invite this guy to the Codex.

 

[tuluse]

Budget game looks and plays like a budget game. What were people expecting?

Raven Shield was a AAA release with an army of developers working on it. http://mobygames.com/game/windows/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-3-raven-shield/credits

 

[Shadowfang]

Budget game looks and plays like a budget game. What were people expecting?

Raven Shield was a AAA release with an army of developers working on it. http://mobygames.com/game/windows/tom-clancys-rainbow-six-3-raven-shield/credits

That's all true, and we can excuse the crappy AI, the stiff animations, the lack of player shadows, the crappy sounds and etc. because of it.
But that breaching charge thing just looks lazy. Not budget game lazy, community mod lazy.

 

[Infinitron]

Game is out: http://store.steampowered.com/app/236510/

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Fuck that one came out of nowhere. I reek SWAT/RB6 material here.

Day 1?

 

[Boleskine]

TB really liked this game. Nothing about the gameplay elements particularly impressed me, though.

 

[Shadowfang]

This is going to be very entertaining.

 

[Metro]

TB really liked this game. Nothing about the gameplay elements particularly impressed me, though.

Most people here don't really care what TB thinks~

 

[Shadowfang]

TB changes his mind.


Now he notices the already-obvious-before-release-crappy AI.
Well too little too late. Or did it get worse between the pax and the release?

 

[Boleskine]

Haha talk about good timing.

This game seems like a sincere enough effort, but it seems better off as a mod or gameplay mode for an existing shooter.

 

[DalekFlay]

Budget game looks and plays like a budget game. What were people expecting?

"I demand niche games made for smaller audiences! I also demand these have big time production values because if I ran a business it would be bankrupt in two months! CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT BITCHES!"

 

[grudgebringer]

so...
anyone got a copy and wants to try it in co-op/dm modes?

playing with bots in SP seems to be extremely boring.

I'd give'em half of a year of my patience to implement a proper map for now.

 

[grudgebringer]

just to check if it currently sucks or not. it's inappropriate to judge it by SP missions and semi-retarted AI.

 

[DeepOcean]

So a game that got 200.000 dollars isn't as good as Rainbow Six? Why I'm not surprised?

 

[Shadowfang]

The 200k was just for them to build an Alpha and show it to investors. We have no idea how much did they get.
The game is worse than mods made for free with the Quake 3 engine.
Even if you managed to polish and fix all the bugs and glitches you would just end up with a very shallow game.

The fact they were low budget, or are an indie team should not be an excuse of how bad the game is.
There should be standards even for low budget crowdfunded games.

 

[skacky]