Tales Of ... series - Vesperia out on Steam

Deleted member 7219 · Oct 12, 2015

I hope it sells well because I think it will increase the chance of Ni No Kuni coming to PC. Same publisher.

flyingjohn · Oct 12, 2015

I just want tales of vesperia to come to pc,but who am i kidding.

Siveon · Oct 12, 2015

flyingjohn said:
I just want tales of vesperia to come to pc,but who am i kidding.

yeah not that one

Tabs · Oct 12, 2015

Finished Tales of Symphonia recently. Had it on Gamecube way back when, but played it now on Dolphin. The story was terrible but the combat grew on me.

ZoddGuts · Oct 13, 2015

The last good Tales game overall is Vesperia, the series has gone downhill since then. We might get a port of the Xbox 360 version to PC, sucks that the PS3 version will never come to the west.

Crooked Bee · Oct 18, 2015

Zestiria has been in Top 10 Steam bestsellers for several days already; that's pretty impressive for what's essentially a blind pre-order.

The IGN review makes it sound like the open world and the combat may be interesting, but the rest is pretty meh, including dungeons: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review Lots of backtracking in the late game, too.

Hopefully the customization really is good, since that's the main reason why I'm looking forward to the game.

Arkeus · Oct 18, 2015

Crooked Bee said:
Zestiria has been in Top 10 Steam bestsellers for several days already; that's pretty impressive for what's essentially a blind pre-order.

The IGN review makes it sound like the open world and the combat may be interesting, but the rest is pretty meh, including dungeons: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review Lots of backtracking in the late game, too.

Mmmh, iirc IGN has a history of slamming Tales games as they are not the 'proper' kind of Jrpg. Hopefully they are wrong about the dungeons.

Hopefully the customization really is good, since that's the main reason why I'm looking forward to the game.

I have heard some pretty dire things about the customization being needlessly complicated but I have also heard people liking it. We'll see how it goes I guess.

yes plz · Oct 18, 2015

Yeah, I've heard a lot of mixed things about this. The two most reoccurring negatives I've seen is that the dungeons are shit and that the story is fairly weak, especially the second half. Their stories have never been a strong point for the Tales of series, so as long as the characters are amusing enough I probably won't mind it. The battle-system and the characters are the two main reasons why I like the series as much as I do, so unless they really fucked up I can't really see this being a bad entry into the series.

Deleted member 7219 · Oct 19, 2015

yes plz said:
Yeah, I've heard a lot of mixed things about this. The two most reoccurring negatives I've seen is that the dungeons are shit and that the story is fairly weak, especially the second half. Their stories have never been a strong point for the Tales of series, so as long as the characters are amusing enough I probably won't mind it. The battle-system and the characters are the two main reasons why I like the series as much as I do, so unless they really fucked up I can't really see this being a bad entry into the series.

So it isn't just the IGN review saying the story is weak and the dungeons are shit. My interest in this game has now plummeted to zero.

I'm still interested in Tales of Symphonia though, might give that a go when it comes out on PC.

Malpercio · Oct 19, 2015

Crooked Bee said:
Hopefully the customization really is good, since that's the main reason why I'm looking forward to the game.

Skill system is one of the worst I've played, I'm sorry.

PC version is worth pre-ordering for ToS alone anyway, which it's the best Tales of.

Siveon · Oct 19, 2015

Malpercio said:
Skill system is one of the worst I've played, I'm sorry.

PC version is worth pre-ordering for ToS alone anyway, which it's the best Tales of.

Pfft, Vesperia is way better. Besides, Tales of Symphonia will probably be released alone on steam anyway, just wait for a sale and you could get it for like 5 or 10 bucks. 50 dollars is just criminal.

Arkeus · Oct 19, 2015

Matt7895 said:
So it isn't just the IGN review saying the story is weak and the dungeons are shit. My interest in this game has now plummeted to zero.

Ehh, dungeons is less subjective (though I hadn't heard that particular complaint much before), but "story being shit" is something that I don't trust a lot of the people commenting about, mainly because those saying so also seem to like either Graces or Abyss' stories.

Malpercio said:
Skill system is one of the worst I've played, I'm sorry.

Really? Damn. Is it because of the Seraph System?

PC version is worth pre-ordering for ToS alone anyway, which it's the best Tales of.

Crooked Bee · Oct 20, 2015

Zestiria's out now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/351970/

I've only had the time to play it briefly so far. It runs absolutely fine and stable, and controls well with an Xbox controller. No idea about KB + M, haven't even bothered trying. The only glitch I've seen is that lip movements are sometimes slightly off sync with the voices for me.

Jaesun · Oct 20, 2015

Is this turn-based?

Crooked Bee · Oct 20, 2015

Jaesun said:
Is this turn-based?

No, these are party-based action RPGs, fully real-time.

Duraframe300 · Oct 20, 2015

Crooked Bee How's the difficulty bonuses in this one?

Jaesun More info: Tales battle systems tend to be more on the fun side of things and should be played for that. Its filled with combos, special attacks and all that jazz.

Difficulty (aside from a few boss fights usually) doesn't take a high priority and can even be handled by the AI itself unless youre really underleveled or on the highest difficulties.

Jaesun · Oct 20, 2015

I just HATE action combat. TURN-BASED OR ELSE!

yes plz · Oct 20, 2015

Crooked Bee said:
Zestiria's out now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/351970/

I've only had the time to play it briefly so far. It runs absolutely fine and stable, and controls well with an Xbox controller. No idea about KB + M, haven't even bothered trying. The only glitch I've seen is that lip movements are sometimes slightly off sync with the voices for me.

Pretty much my experience with it as well. The only problems I've had with it were sound related -- first the sound was really static-y with a lot of crackling and I had to go into my Sound Devices confirguation on Windows and turn my audio down from 32-bit to 24-bit; the second problem was there was no voices which I fixed by switching the audio in the game's settings from surround to stereo. Other than that, yeah, the game runs silky smooth for me on my 770 GTX.

The skill system does seem somewhat convoluted (I honestly preferred Graces simple and straightforward 'titles' system it used) but the battle system is great still, though I haven't managed to 'fuse' yet.

Clockwork Knight · Oct 20, 2015

Jaesun said:
I just HATE action combat. TURN-BASED OR ELSE!

but you can't bro-op in turn-based

Siveon · Oct 20, 2015

Clockwork Knight said:
but you can't bro-op in turn-based

You can, with multiple characters. Just pass the controller around.
:smug:

Arkeus · Oct 20, 2015

Yes, it's really smooth here, and my computer has been dying for a while.

I actually quite like that for once you get less XP on harder difficulty. One of the most annoying thing in Graces was that higher difficulties gave you more of everything (including loot iirc) which just meant that after an hour of playing in a higher difficulty it went and became just as easy as the previous difficulty because you were over-geared/over-levelled.

The Seraph of the Lake amuses me so far in her faux-clumsy way, and Sorey seems to actually have gained subtlety by talking to her.

Crooked Bee · Oct 21, 2015

Duraframe300 said:
Crooked Bee How's the difficulty bonuses in this one?

Hard mode gives you less exp but better loot. Maybe something else I forget.

I've only played for a bit so I can't say how that works out in practice, except that, at first glance, given the way the game's fusion system works that does actually look like a more than fair trade-off. I may be wrong though.

Arkeus · Oct 21, 2015

Crooked Bee said:
Hard mode gives you less exp but better loot. Maybe something else I forget.

I've only played for a bit so I can't say how that works out in practice, except that, at first glance, given the way the game's fusion system works that does actually look like a more than fair trade-off. I may be wrong though.

Yeah, the farther I go, and the more it feels like Loot > XP in this one, where your character levels really aren't an accurate assessment of your fighting strength.

Likewise, apparently not only do you get more loot, but higher grade of loot can only drop on higher difficulties (maybe you can buy them too though).

It also had the thing in Abyss/Grace (maybe others) where higher tiers of difficulty unlock when you play a lot on the highest difficulty you have. So playing 300 (random number out of my ass) on Hard would make 'Intense' unlock, and playing 300 on Intense would make Chaos unlock.

Damned Registrations · Oct 21, 2015

Thats basically how Valkyrie Profile worked, Hard mode wasn't actually very hard unless you were too retarded to find/use the superior weapons that were available.