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The French RPG will have had a much better story. Enough with this faux mature, extreme, edgy stuff.

I definitely think the writing in the French RPG was better than any writing I've ever seen from Telltale. As lauded as "Walking Dead" is, I think it mostly gets by on good old fashioned emotional manipulation. It's as shameless and direct in its heart string tugging as a silent era melodrama, and its characters rarely rise beyond that in terms of complexity (most people tend to be caricatures who serve specific purposes in terms of the plot, but rarely move beyond one dimensions, especially Clemintine who is basically the innocent waif straight out of a 1920s melodrama). Which isn't to wholey bash "Walking Dead." I think it works great as a game in the vein of a modern zombie take on silent melodrama, but Game of Thrones is a different beast entirely.

The french RPG probably has one of my favorite villains of any RPG ever, though, and what's more audacious is that they make him a main, playable, character. He's a total dick, but not in a "I'm totally bad, watch me kill this puppy now guys" kind of way, but a dick in a slightly more complex, "you kind of understand why he's a dick, but he's still a dick regardless," kind of way. And what's even better, he starts out being not so bad, but through a series of events he slowly develops into a dick as the game progresses. His villainy is ultimately more of the "spineless person protecting his own" variety than the "outright evil" variety, and the game does a pretty good job of demonstrating the chain of events which leads him down that path without making it overt or hamfisted like so many other games have handled similar "turning to villainy" plots. Nothing Telltale has done has convinced me they could pull off a character or a character arch that nuanced or interesting.
 

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The RPG was truly terrible, one of the worst games I have ever had the misfortune to play. The story was shit. Everything about it was irredeemable.

I hope Telltale's game is actually a game and not an interactive movie like TWD / TWAU.
 

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My immediate reaction was, "Jeez, fitting this setting and the characters in it with adventure gameplay will not be easy." Then I realized Telltale's gameplay is a lot more flexible. I'm sure they'll be able to deliver something that'll make fans happy.
 

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The RPG was mediocre at best, but the story was a better fan fiction than the crap they are doing with the tv series. I'm curious to see what they do with this.
 

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My immediate reaction was, "Jeez, fitting this setting and the characters in it with adventure gameplay will not be easy." Then I realized Telltale's gameplay is a lot more flexible. I'm sure they'll be able to deliver something that'll make fans happy.
You just have to replace all the fighting with this

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GoT RPG had crappy gameplay, but it involved more mechanics and combat was really challenging. The only moment in TWD where I had to reload was when Lee/Clem said something different (than I thought they would) or when the prompt said to "hold A to move left" and you actually had to keep pressing it (and the window for mistake was super small).

Dunno what's wrong with the story in the RPG? The plot was kinda basic - no Fight Club twists etc. - but it was all about the characters and gears of politics grinding them to fine pulp. Cyanide created as much drama as TTG, but they also had more hidden choices and the game was not only heart-wrenching, but also disturbing (*cough*that little retrospection from Mors' house*cough*).

Don't want to bash TTG, but IMHO Cyanide had a more sophisticated product.
 

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but the story was a better fan fiction than the crap they are doing with the tv series.
Translation: Look, I'm acting like a retard. Am I doing good? Am I a true Codexer now?

Uh... no. Season 4 was mediocre and season 5 will be even worse, they are changing the books completely and that's why many readers (like myself) are considering to stop watching it altogether.
Nice try, though.
 

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-10-28-telltales-game-of-thrones-is-coming-later-this-year

Telltale's Game of Thrones adaptation will premiere later this year.

The studio's community manager and PR specialist Laura Perusco tweeted, "No specific release date announced yet, but I can confirm that the season IS premiering later this year. :)"

Not much is known about Telltale's upcoming series based on George R.R. Martin's novels, but it will be set concurrently to the books. Telltale previously teased the following pictures that astute fans have suggested are a reference to Stannis Baratheon's travels to Winterfell and will likely star new characters from House Forrester. Given the series' history, we expect it to have plenty of bloodletting and sex. Possibly at the same time.

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Reek, Reek rhymes with...

Weak.
Freak.
Meek.
...


Ramsay Snow will remember that.
 

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Agree with guys who incline french GoT RPG. The combat was challenging on top difficulty, but the game wasn't about combat - it was about story. And the story was sooo fucking good. George Martin edited it heavily tho, so it's partly his personal achievment.

The ending and final showdown is something I'll never forget.
Mors returning to the Wall is the only true ending. No discuss.

Judjing by their last "games", Telltale can't deliver a story of that level in a lifetime. Not until George Martin will write a script personally.
 

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Agree with guys who incline french GoT RPG. The combat was challenging on top difficulty, but the game wasn't about combat - it was about story. And the story was sooo fucking good. George Martin edited it heavily tho, so it's partly his personal achievment.

The ending and final showdown is something I'll never forget.
Mors returning to the Wall is the only true ending. No discuss.

Judjing by their last "games", Telltale can't deliver a story of that level in a lifetime. Not until George Martin will write a script personally.
Ohshit, didn't see that ending. Played two times, one for each character.

My Mors chose to escape with the kid, but...

Don't think TTG will be able to deliver that level of hardcore, but the story still might be amusing.
 

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Agree with guys who incline french GoT RPG. The combat was challenging on top difficulty, but the game wasn't about combat - it was about story. And the story was sooo fucking good. George Martin edited it heavily tho, so it's partly his personal achievment.

The ending and final showdown is something I'll never forget.
Mors returning to the Wall is the only true ending. No discuss.

Judjing by their last "games", Telltale can't deliver a story of that level in a lifetime. Not until George Martin will write a script personally.
Ohshit, didn't see that ending. Played two times, one for each character.

My Mors chose to escape with the kid, but...

Don't think TTG will be able to deliver that level of hardcore, but the story still might be amusing.
Outlaws my ass!
That was actually pretty good.
 

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Can't blame you there - the story was really professionally written. Whoever wrote it, should write more videogames.
 

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Can't blame you there - the story was really professionally written. Whoever wrote it, should write more videogames.
Game of Thrones writers:
mobygames.com said:

Of Orcs and Men writers:
mobygames.com said:

So the main writers are the same, but the difference in quality can't be bigger.
 

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He didn't edit it, at least not "heavily" - he was consulted with on the key points of the story, though, to ensure it was "canon": http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/04/george-r-r-martin-largely-happy-with-cyanides-game-of-thrones-rpg/

But yeah, it was good. Best storyfag RPG since MotB.

I really need to power through the game one of these days, I just couldn't stand the terrible gameplay to get very far.
Eh? How is it terrible? The combat is pretty much yer standart real-time-pause thingie. Like Neverwiter Nights or Dragon Age or Golbox series. The locations are not like labyrinths too. And otherwise it's just scriptscenes and dialogues. The major complaint about the game was the visual part. Meh, doesn't bother me at all.
 

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The gameplay wasn't perfect, but the awkward perspective did kill a little bit of fun for me. That third person perspective makes me really uncomfortable.
 

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