Game News Tentative Torment Kickstarter Tiers Announced

[Inspectorirate]

$95 to get the physical copy of the map?

uh, no thanks

 

[Minttunator]

I think the CE tier is actually p good tho'. I mean it's cheaper than other CEs for early birds and quite meaty. I can imagine a variety of digital-only tiers don't excite as much though.

Yeah, the CE is a pretty good deal - I do wish there was a non-CE physical tier, though, at around $50-60 or so.

 

[Akarnir]

I really wonder how this will go, it's going to be a test of if the "kickstarter fatigue" idea is real.
The lack of MCA and Planescape will also limit the appeal to many.
My bet: It gets funded, but less than 150%.

that's my opinion too. I think the euphoria is over. It would be surprising if crowd funding became of valid long term business model to fund all the develloper's project.

 

[Shannow]

Wasteland 2 was $15, now Torment is $25....

AAA titles have started not only copying shitty gameplay from consoles but also shitty price-tags. Used to be I could get new games for 40€. Now if I want to buy shortly after release (rarely the case as it is) they want 55€...
25$ for a full game is a steal. Given that the KS games covered by the codex usually promise to be better than AAA games it's even more of a steal.

That said, I'd rather play W2 before I pledging for any other inXile KS. Not that they end up being a disappointment of Obsidian proportions and me having wasted 40 bucks on them...

(Actually I'll give the Torment KS a few weeks to run and then decide if I like what I see or not.)

 

[jewboy]

Everything else is just token shit to show their appreciation for you giving more than you needed.

o_O

Or rather it's "shit" that makes some people pay more than "needed". It's not a favor that inXile does to people, really.
Who exactly do you think donates based on how much they want the game? That makes no sense. No matter how much I want it, I can just get it for $25.

You can also get it for $0 from TPB or KAT. So why donate at all by that logic? The reason to back the game is to do your part to slightly improve the game as well as helping get the next one made by voting with your dollars. The reason is not the digital file which will be in millions of hands of people who didn't 'buy' the game the same day it's released.

 

[hiver]

I think the CE tier is actually p good tho'. I mean it's cheaper than other CEs for early birds and quite meaty. I can imagine a variety of digital-only tiers don't excite as much though.

This better have more to show than just some concept art

You mean like...? A running demo?

Clear, direct explanations and examples of all mechanics.
Magic system explained in detail, with examples in written and visual form.
Quests examples, quest writing.
Concept art of areas, characters, items, equipment - with detailed explanations for each item.
Monster bestiaries, with art and descriptions.
Short stories about Numeneras world and lore in general.

This is not PE - "let us do it and we will tell you the details as we go and invent stuff" kind of a deal.


Also, are you going to get payed out of kicstarter in any way - at all?

 

[ghostdog]

25$ for minimum is too much and generally the tiers aren't that great.

I'm hoping this is intentionally banal so they can afterwards say : "LOL we listened to our fans and added cheaper and more interesting tiers !"

 

[General Maxson]

25$ for minimum is too much and generally the tiers aren't that great.

I'm hoping this is intentionally banal so they can afterwards say : "LOL we listened to our fans and added cheaper and more interesting tiers !"

My thoughts exactly. It's not like 25$ is too much for a game, but here you actually don't buy the game, you buy the "dream" of a game. That's different. Especially since W2 isn't out yet, and we'll probably get only concept art and not much info. I also think that this KS won't be as successful as W2, or PE. People are perhaps sick of all this shit (gimme your money) without actually playing any of the KS games, not to mention huge inflation for lowest tiers. Soon those kickstarter games will cost almost as much as completed games in the lowest tiers. And there's only so much rich, enthusiastic crpg nerds...

 

[EG]

But . . . for around $25 I can get an old big-box game on eBay, rather than a future digital copy.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

This cashgrab is a bit too blatant. I hope it won't get anywhere.

 

[Infinitron]

I would suggest waiting for the promo video before making any dire pronouncements.

Remember when everybody thought Wasteland 2 would look like shit? Oops!

 

[DwarvenFood]

We don't even know how much they'd like to collect. That being said, will this be worth getting the $5K "monument" tier for Codex ? Not too sure this time, with the cheapest physical tier ending up over 100$ with shipping. Won't have much for an eventual Codex fundraiser.

 

[Infinitron]

We don't even know how much they'd like to collect. That being said, will this be worth getting the $5K "monument" tier for Codex ? Not too sure this time, with the cheapest physical tier ending up over 100$ with shipping. Won't have much for an eventual Codex fundraiser.

I think it's gonna be 900k again. But don't quote me on that.

 

[evdk]

This cashgrab is a bit too blatant. I hope it won't get anywhere.

What cash grab? Are they supposed to make the game using RPG maker?

 

[Cosmo]

This cashgrab is a bit too blatant.

Attention grab a bit too blatant too.

 

[dnf]

I would suggest waiting for the promo video before making any dire pronouncements.

Remember when everybody thought Wasteland 2 would look like shit? Oops!

The problem is that Wasteland 2 looked like nothing

 

[Roguey]

All this "$25 is too much" is absurd, unless you live in a country where that's more than what you usually pay for games due to the exchange rate. Like the thing Jeff Vogel was talking about. "I want a RPG with good mechanics and dozens of hours of interesting content but I do not want to pay more than $15-20 for this product, make it happen slaves."

I would suggest waiting for the promo video before making any dire pronouncements.

Remember when everybody thought Wasteland 2 would look like shit? Oops!

But it did.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

The game really sounds like a cash grab. I mean srsly, before their first retro RPG is even close to being finished, they, a small studio from the outer planes, announce yet another one? Where they don't even have any of the original IP, the only connection to PST is that they use "torment"? And this supposed "thematical similarity" which we have no reason as of yet to believe they can pull off (see: inxile track record)?

For fucks sake, they are so overextended they have to resort to hiring random internet commenters to work as "producers" for them, yet they seem to want to start funding this game before W2 is finished. Does this make you feel reassured of their good intentions? I mean if they intend for W2 to be a good game, why not wait with this kickstarter till after W2 is released, and ride the coattails of it's success and the cred they get?

I hope I'm wrong but this numenera:torment shit really rubs me the wrong way.

 

[EG]

All this "$25 is too much" is absurd, unless you live in a country where that's more than what you usually pay for games due to the exchange rate. Like the thing Jeff Vogel was talking about. "I want a RPG with good mechanics and dozens of hours of interesting content but I do not want to pay more than $15-20 for this product, make it happen slaves."

I would suggest waiting for the promo video before making any dire pronouncements.

Remember when everybody thought Wasteland 2 would look like shit? Oops!

But it did.

Steam | GoG | eBay | Classifieds | "Free"

This cashgrab is a bit too blatant. I hope it won't get anywhere.

What cash grab? Are they supposed to make the game using Unity?

Fixed.

 

[Roguey]

Steam | GoG | eBay | Classifieds | "Free"

Not new games you can't unless it was something made on a really small budget.

 

[evdk]

The game really sounds like a cash grab. I mean srsly, before their first retro RPG is even close to being finished, they, a small studio from the outer planes, announce yet another one? Where they don't even have any of the original IP, the only connection to PST is that they use "torment"? And this supposed "thematical similarity" which we have no reason as of yet to believe they can pull off (see: inxile track record)?

For fucks sake, they are so overextended they have to resort to hiring random internet commenters to work as "producers" for them, yet they seem to want to start funding this game before W2 is finished. Does this make you feel reassured of their good intentions? I mean if they intend for W2 to be a good game, why not wait with this kickstarter till after W2 is released, and ride the coattails of it's success and the cred they get?

I hope I'm wrong but this numenera:torment shit really rubs me the wrong way.

Maybe we should let random internet commenters field this one.

 

[Cosmo]

It may seem hasty, but for Fargo it's clearly now or never. This nostalgia craze won't last forever.

 

[Infinitron]

If you don't believe in inXile's vision after seeing their promo video, don't pledge. In the end, Wasteland 2 doesn't matter. What matters is whether or not you want their Torment RPG.

I mean, fuck, nobody told Bioware back in 2007 "Fuck you, Bioware, I'm not buying Mass Effect until you're finished developing Dragon Age. CASH GRAB."

(Yeah, not the best company to compare inXile to, I know)

 

[evdk]

(Yeah, not the best company to compare inXile to, I know)

Actually, going by inXile's track record it kinda is

 

[EG]

Steam | GoG | eBay | Classifieds | "Free"

Not new games you can't unless it was something made on a really small budget.

I would have hoped it's apparent that I don't give a shit about "new" games and their MRSP.

Or are you now advocating that these titles should be going for $49.99 - 59.99 because that's just what real companies charge?