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- You should invest to stealth. If you haven't you can get it to decent levels pretty quickly.
- Ditch the sword skill. In my playthroughs I found that axes are far superior to anything. With one attack you damage everything around you instead of just one target.
- Only use loud spells if you can score quick screen clear and can move on fast. Not using spells and stealth let's you roam pretty freely and mostly kill enemies you want. Abyss is pretty easy after that.
- Avoid those purple star, can't remember name for them. They cause corruptions for non undead chars and rotting I thing for undead.
- Dive into abyss lvl 3 as fast as you can. You can find the abyss rune only on lvl 3,4 and 5, but lvl 3 is safest bet. Once you have the rune you can escape abyss much more easily if you need. Grinding abyss without the rune can quickly turn bad as there are only few stairs to escape.
That tip about stealth on the abyss really paid off. Thanks.
Got my first mummy win (15 rune too). Hardest part was the hells, and the abyss before training stealth. Pan was actually kinda easy, even if I got a few close calls here and there.
Overall, this felt the win I played best. Not that many close calls, even in the early game. That might be because of that nifty torment immunity there. Lost count of how many Tormentors showed up and I just said, "haha" and sworded them to death.
I couldn't kill Asmodeus and Dispater when I did the hells (I do hells before pan/abyss). Never had mp to finish them off. When I finished pan, I had trained earth magic, had more MP due to training spellcasting, went there and finished them off, just for the sake of it.
Also, I couldn't kill Cerebov, so I just yoinked his rune and fled. In the next level, who do I see? CEREBOV!
The bastard now follows you on other pan levels until you kill him! (which I did, but it was one of the most difficult battles)
EDIT: Oh, I just remembered, fuck the devs with the -tele on the enchantress. Almost died there, closest call of them all. She's fast as all hell too, so it's hard to run away too. It's the only monster in the game that can do that (and shouldn't), so I didn't even remember that shit, except when I tried teleporting.
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.1 (tiles) character file.
deso the Conqueror (Mummy Wizard) Turns: 238103, Time: 14:17:53
rFire + + + SeeInvis + a - +11 long sword {freeze, Str+4 Int+3 Dex+2}
rCold + + + Clarity . p - +5 faerie dragon armour {rC+ Stlth+}
rNeg + + + SustAt . B - +7 large shield "Araletea" {MR+ Int+7}
rPois 8 Gourm . z - +2 helmet
rElec + Spirit . W - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr . Warding . l - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut . Stasis . E - +2 pair of boots {Fly}
MR ++++. N - amulet of Suumoohi {+Rage rF+++ MP+9 Str-3 Dex-3}
Stlth ++++++.... y - ring of Propriety {rPois rC+ Str+5 SInv}
P - ring of fire
@: flying, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, cold resistance 1, negative energy
resistance 3, torment resistance, unbreathing, in touch with death 2, restore
body
a: Self-Restoration, Renounce Religion, Stop Flying
}: 15/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian, icy, bone,
abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark, gossamer
You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and seen 95 of its levels.
You have visited Pandemonium 1 time, and seen 33 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 4 times.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Ossuary and Ice Cave.
You have collected 19784 gold pieces.
You have spent 4436 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
a - the +11 long sword of Pyromania (weapon) {freeze, Str+4 Int+3 Dex+2}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
It affects your strength (+4).
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+2).
i - the +4 Staff of Dispater
(You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
J - the +7 Sceptre of Asmodeus
(You took it off Asmodeus on level 7 of Gehenna)
K - a +9 demon blade of flaming
O - the +2 whip "Wesuagg" {slash, +Fly rF+ rC+ Str-3}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
It affects your strength (-3).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It lets you fly.
Armour
l - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
(You found it in an ice cave)
It affects your evasion (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+6).
p - the +5 faerie dragon armour (worn) {rC+ Stlth+}
(You took it off the Enchantress on level 1 of the Depths)
It protects you from cold.
It makes you more stealthy.
r - the +12 large shield of Magic {rF++ Int-3}
(You took it off a daeva in Pandemonium)
It affects your intelligence (-3).
It greatly protects you from fire.
x - the +3 large shield "Abranost" {SInv}
(You took it off a daeva on level 1 of the Abyss)
It lets you see invisible.
z - a +2 helmet (worn)
B - the +7 large shield "Araletea" (worn) {MR+ Int+7}
(You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
It affects your intelligence (+7).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
E - a +2 pair of boots of flying (worn)
W - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
(You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
It affects your evasion (+4).
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.
It makes you much less stealthy.
Magical Staves
b - an uncursed staff of conjuration
m - an uncursed staff of energy
U - an uncursed staff of power
Jewellery
e - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
k - the brooch of Shielding {Ward rN+ AC+4 EV+4}
(You found it in an ice cave)
[amulet of warding]
It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures.
It affects your AC (+4).
It affects your evasion (+4).
It protects you from negative energy.
o - an uncursed ring of teleportation
s - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
u - the amulet "Heusibb" {Clar rF+ Int+2}
(You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
[amulet of clarity]
It provides mental clarity.
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It protects you from fire.
v - the ring "Telatykh" {SustAt Int+3}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
[ring of sustain attributes]
It sustains your strength, intelligence and dexterity.
It affects your intelligence (+3).
y - the ring of Propriety (right hand) {rPois rC+ Str+5 SInv}
(You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
[ring of strength]
It affects your strength (+5).
It protects you from cold.
It protects you from poison.
It lets you see invisible.
D - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
G - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
I - an uncursed ring of fire
N - the amulet of Suumoohi (around neck) {+Rage rF+++ MP+9 Str-3 Dex-3}
(You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
[amulet of rage]
It affects your strength (-3).
It affects your dexterity (-3).
It renders you almost immune to fire.
It affects your magic capacity (+9).
It lets you go berserk.
P - a ring of fire (left hand)
R - an uncursed amulet of stasis
Wands
g - a wand of teleportation (4)
H - a wand of digging
L - a wand of heal wounds (5)
M - a wand of digging (7)
Scrolls
d - 6 scrolls of fear
f - 9 scrolls of magic mapping
h - 30 scrolls of remove curse
j - 7 scrolls of teleportation
n - 15 scrolls of identify
q - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
t - 7 scrolls of blinking
C - 9 scrolls of fog
F - a scroll of torment
Q - 5 scrolls of recharging
X - 6 scrolls of amnesia
Z - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
Miscellaneous
c - a crystal ball of energy
S - the horn of Geryon (inert)
Skills:
O Level 27 Fighting
- Level 16,4(20,4) Long Blades
- Level 9,0 Armour
+ Level 22,8 Dodging
- Level 20,2 Stealth
- Level 25,0 Shields
O Level 27 Spellcasting
O Level 27 Conjurations
- Level 11,0 Charms
Level 0,7 Summonings
- Level 3,0 Translocations
O Level 27 Fire Magic
- Level 7,0 Earth Magic
- Level 10,0 Evocations
You have 11 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######## 0% 4 N/A
b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 N/A
c - Orb of Destruction Conj ########.. 1% 7 N/A
d - Fire Storm Conj/Fire #########. 1% 9 N/A
e - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###### 1% 2 N/A
f - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 N/A
g - Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 1% 4 N/A
h - Swiftness Chrm/Air ######.. 1% 2 N/A
i - Haste Chrm #######. 1% 6 N/A
j - Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 10% 6 N/A
q - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #########. 0% 6 N/A
x - Lehudib's Crystal Sp Conj/Erth ########.. 1% 8 N/A
z - Iron Shot Conj/Erth ########.. 1% 6 N/A
That tip about stealth on the abyss really paid off. Thanks.
Got my first mummy win (15 rune too). Hardest part was the hells, and the abyss before training stealth. Pan was actually kinda easy, even if I got a few close calls here and there.
Overall, this felt the win I played best. Not that many close calls, even in the early game. That might be because of that nifty torment immunity there. Lost count of how many Tormentors showed up and I just said, "haha" and sworded them to death.
I couldn't kill Asmodeus and Dispater when I did the hells (I do hells before pan/abyss). Never had mp to finish them off. When I finished pan, I had trained earth magic, had more MP due to training spellcasting, went there and finished them off, just for the sake of it.
Also, I couldn't kill Cerebov, so I just yoinked his rune and fled. In the next level, who do I see? CEREBOV!
The bastard now follows you on other pan levels until you kill him! (which I did, but it was one of the most difficult battles)
EDIT: Oh, I just remembered, fuck the devs with the -tele on the enchantress. Almost died there, closest call of them all. She's fast as all hell too, so it's hard to run away too. It's the only monster in the game that can do that (and shouldn't), so I didn't even remember that shit, except when I tried teleporting.
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.1 (tiles) character file.
deso the Conqueror (Mummy Wizard) Turns: 238103, Time: 14:17:53
rFire + + + SeeInvis + a - +11 long sword {freeze, Str+4 Int+3 Dex+2}
rCold + + + Clarity . p - +5 faerie dragon armour {rC+ Stlth+}
rNeg + + + SustAt . B - +7 large shield "Araletea" {MR+ Int+7}
rPois 8 Gourm . z - +2 helmet
rElec + Spirit . W - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr . Warding . l - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut . Stasis . E - +2 pair of boots {Fly}
MR ++++. N - amulet of Suumoohi {+Rage rF+++ MP+9 Str-3 Dex-3}
Stlth ++++++.... y - ring of Propriety {rPois rC+ Str+5 SInv}
P - ring of fire
@: flying, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, cold resistance 1, negative energy
resistance 3, torment resistance, unbreathing, in touch with death 2, restore
body
a: Self-Restoration, Renounce Religion, Stop Flying
}: 15/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian, icy, bone,
abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark, gossamer
You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and seen 95 of its levels.
You have visited Pandemonium 1 time, and seen 33 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 4 times.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Ossuary and Ice Cave.
You have collected 19784 gold pieces.
You have spent 4436 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
a - the +11 long sword of Pyromania (weapon) {freeze, Str+4 Int+3 Dex+2}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
It affects your strength (+4).
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+2).
i - the +4 Staff of Dispater
(You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
J - the +7 Sceptre of Asmodeus
(You took it off Asmodeus on level 7 of Gehenna)
K - a +9 demon blade of flaming
O - the +2 whip "Wesuagg" {slash, +Fly rF+ rC+ Str-3}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
It affects your strength (-3).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It lets you fly.
Armour
l - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
(You found it in an ice cave)
It affects your evasion (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+6).
p - the +5 faerie dragon armour (worn) {rC+ Stlth+}
(You took it off the Enchantress on level 1 of the Depths)
It protects you from cold.
It makes you more stealthy.
r - the +12 large shield of Magic {rF++ Int-3}
(You took it off a daeva in Pandemonium)
It affects your intelligence (-3).
It greatly protects you from fire.
x - the +3 large shield "Abranost" {SInv}
(You took it off a daeva on level 1 of the Abyss)
It lets you see invisible.
z - a +2 helmet (worn)
B - the +7 large shield "Araletea" (worn) {MR+ Int+7}
(You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
It affects your intelligence (+7).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
E - a +2 pair of boots of flying (worn)
W - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
(You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
It affects your evasion (+4).
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.
It makes you much less stealthy.
Magical Staves
b - an uncursed staff of conjuration
m - an uncursed staff of energy
U - an uncursed staff of power
Jewellery
e - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
k - the brooch of Shielding {Ward rN+ AC+4 EV+4}
(You found it in an ice cave)
[amulet of warding]
It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures.
It affects your AC (+4).
It affects your evasion (+4).
It protects you from negative energy.
o - an uncursed ring of teleportation
s - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
u - the amulet "Heusibb" {Clar rF+ Int+2}
(You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
[amulet of clarity]
It provides mental clarity.
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It protects you from fire.
v - the ring "Telatykh" {SustAt Int+3}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
[ring of sustain attributes]
It sustains your strength, intelligence and dexterity.
It affects your intelligence (+3).
y - the ring of Propriety (right hand) {rPois rC+ Str+5 SInv}
(You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
[ring of strength]
It affects your strength (+5).
It protects you from cold.
It protects you from poison.
It lets you see invisible.
D - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
G - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
I - an uncursed ring of fire
N - the amulet of Suumoohi (around neck) {+Rage rF+++ MP+9 Str-3 Dex-3}
(You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
[amulet of rage]
It affects your strength (-3).
It affects your dexterity (-3).
It renders you almost immune to fire.
It affects your magic capacity (+9).
It lets you go berserk.
P - a ring of fire (left hand)
R - an uncursed amulet of stasis
Wands
g - a wand of teleportation (4)
H - a wand of digging
L - a wand of heal wounds (5)
M - a wand of digging (7)
Scrolls
d - 6 scrolls of fear
f - 9 scrolls of magic mapping
h - 30 scrolls of remove curse
j - 7 scrolls of teleportation
n - 15 scrolls of identify
q - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
t - 7 scrolls of blinking
C - 9 scrolls of fog
F - a scroll of torment
Q - 5 scrolls of recharging
X - 6 scrolls of amnesia
Z - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
Miscellaneous
c - a crystal ball of energy
S - the horn of Geryon (inert)
Skills:
O Level 27 Fighting
- Level 16,4(20,4) Long Blades
- Level 9,0 Armour
+ Level 22,8 Dodging
- Level 20,2 Stealth
- Level 25,0 Shields
O Level 27 Spellcasting
O Level 27 Conjurations
- Level 11,0 Charms
Level 0,7 Summonings
- Level 3,0 Translocations
O Level 27 Fire Magic
- Level 7,0 Earth Magic
- Level 10,0 Evocations
You have 11 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######## 0% 4 N/A
b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 N/A
c - Orb of Destruction Conj ########.. 1% 7 N/A
d - Fire Storm Conj/Fire #########. 1% 9 N/A
e - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###### 1% 2 N/A
f - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 N/A
g - Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 1% 4 N/A
h - Swiftness Chrm/Air ######.. 1% 2 N/A
i - Haste Chrm #######. 1% 6 N/A
j - Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 10% 6 N/A
q - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #########. 0% 6 N/A
x - Lehudib's Crystal Sp Conj/Erth ########.. 1% 8 N/A
z - Iron Shot Conj/Erth ########.. 1% 6 N/A
I'm still waiting for when it has a bigger discount. And possibly more patches/reviews about it.
EDIT: Yeah. Embers of Rage. I'm not in a hurry to play it.
Just picked up "Shadow of the Wyrm". I like atmosphere so far(Earthsea, LotR vibes), nicely written lore, difficulty(not cruel), original classes(rover, apothecary, oracle), open-world. http://www.shadowofthewyrm.org/downloads.html
It is a project gaining in quality at a good and steady pace, just recently(today) had a big update at that. Should it continue roughly apace, it should arrive at a very fine place in the none too distant future right up there comparable to ADOM and the other greats.
I spent some time playing SotW and crash bug happened to me, i asked Julian Day(creator) about it and got answer, so if anybody is interested in doing this game more stabile here is how:
Unfortunately, there's a crash bug that's been present since my first release that I haven't been able to figure out. Did you run your game with the batch file or the executable? What were you doing when the crash happened?
It would be super helpful if you could do the following. Download procdump from:
Then, you can run the game from the batch file contained at the top level folder.
What the batch file does is to run the game within procdump. If the game crashes, procdump will create a full dump that will allow me to pinpoint exactly where your crash occurred, inspect variables/the call stack, and hopefully figure out what caused it. If you could do that and then let me know when you have another crash (and send me a link to the dump file and tell me if you're using the Win7 or XP build), that would be amazing. Before I ever call the game a beta, I need to figure out what's causing this issue... jcd748@mail.usask.ca
It is a project gaining in quality at a good and steady pace, just recently(today) had a big update at that. Should it continue roughly apace, it should arrive at a very fine place in the none too distant future right up there comparable to ADOM and the other greats.
Just picked up "Shadow of the Wyrm". I like atmosphere so far(Earthsea, LotR vibes), nicely written lore, difficulty(not cruel), original classes(rover, apothecary, oracle), open-world. http://www.shadowofthewyrm.org/downloads.html
Author here - the latest version (0.4.9) should automatically create a minidump on a crash that you can email to me. So, while the crash bug is still sadly present, I'm hopeful that it'll be fixed soon.
Author here - the latest version (0.4.9) should automatically create a minidump on a crash that you can email to me. So, while the crash bug is still sadly present, I'm hopeful that it'll be fixed soon.
It is in the subdirectory "docs"Combat is easy: there are only few monsters which are dangerous, but i think in later versions author will tune things up. Main selling point of SotW is different classes/races, open world, NPC interaction, unique loot/mobs. With a dwarf(i think) i couldnt climb mountains without falling down and dying, with mountain elf(lol) i was able to reach highest peaks... or you could try taking rover which has mountaineering skill. If author will not ditch it - the game could became as good as other major roguelikes. So far i am having fun with it.
Author here - the latest version (0.4.9) should automatically create a minidump on a crash that you can email to me. So, while the crash bug is still sadly present, I'm hopeful that it'll be fixed soon.
I definitely need to do something with saves. I was talking with a developer of another roguelike, and he suggested autosave/checkpointing. I might do that, or might just update the code so that saves aren't removed except on dying/quitting. At least with the latter, it's an easy, unobstrusive change to make, and lessens the sting of a sudden crash.
Combat is easy: there are only few monsters which are dangerous, but i think in later versions author will tune things up. Main selling point of SotW is different classes/races, open world, NPC interaction, unique loot/mobs. With a dwarf(i think) i couldnt climb mountains without falling down and dying, with mountain elf(lol) i was able to reach highest peaks... or you could try taking rover which has mountaineering skill. If author will not ditch it - the game could became as good as other major roguelikes. So far i am having fun with it.
