The Codexian Saga LP

[lightbane]

Schematics Proposal from the Cimmerian Institute of Military Globowarmthinkery

Radially Obscured Kinetic-weapon (R.O.K.)

Ork tech at his finest!! :D

Maybe we should consider stablishing a new emperor and killing all of these politicians scum... But because this is not possible, I say B, we don't need rebels, we already have enough enemies.

 

[Angthoron]

Meta: You should probably announce a vote change in the older post if that's what you're up to, lightbane, or you might confuse the vote count.

 

[treave]

You already voted for Exterminatus buttons, bro.

 

[Luan]

Fantastic thread going on. Congratulations barbarian! I admire your dedication, creative mind, and hard work!

From the most ancient provinces of Codexia Cojapan, hail esteemed councillors.

Economies will repair themselves naturally regardless of federal intervention. There are no immediate conflicts that require military attention. We must strive to be well-rounded in all aspects. Mastery of one is not nearly as useful as competence in all if you have glaring faults. Only by starting with a strong base in all fields can we approach mastery of all! Our military prowess is already strong. We are mighty, yet we cannot let our weaknesses fester for too long. There are many more ways to destroy an empire than a hellstorm of thermonuclear death.

Only once we have stability from within, can we master the art of destabilizing those from without! Esteemed Councilors, I urge you to vote B!

Let us take these lessons to heart and fully understand the art of nurturing, growing, and maintaining a civilization so that we can truly understand how to DESTROY one.

 

[Cenobyte]

^

wise post.

My vote also goes to option b)

We cannot fight further wars without stable domestic policies. Additionally, a secure and stable nation will automatically produce technological advancement and economic growth, just by the mere fact that the people can go to work without fear for their lifes. You work better in a safe environment.

Last but not least, as the update of our Barbarian has shown, we must also integrate the Phyr into our society. If just left alone, we may end with parallel societies and xenophobic riots. Plus, if the Phyr can integrate themselves, they will further contribute to the advancement of our civilization.

 

[Angthoron]

Meta: As the events have shown, the technological advance is not guaranteed by having a stable life. In fact we've had Codexia stagnate a bit due to all the stability, and at every choice we've so far picked things that lead us away from quantum leaps in technology.
/meta

Curious, the society-siding Councillors are starting to make a strong point. I might soon be swayed to your side!

 

[lightbane]

You already voted for Exterminatus buttons, bro.

lol, my own nature betrays me Okay, edited my vote.

 

[Jaedar]

Going to have to vote for B: Internal stability.

Our society had been unstable ever since we united through diplomacy instead of force. Time to rectify.

 

[treave]

Alright, keep going guys, a few more and you'll tietied with us tech-lovers now. Try to convince a few switches and you may have your victory.

I'm giving you moral support from over here!

edit: Edited.

 

[Angthoron]

Isn't it 2-5-5 now?

 

[treave]

Yeah, got thrown off by Mr. "Stability before Extermination" there.

 

[Radisshu]

I must urge the voters who are critical of option A to at least prefer B to C.

 

[treave]

I guess I better defend technology for a while.

Ahem, here goes.

Councillors, I find that many of you, even those that do support technological focus, have jumped to the conclusion that technology is something that only the military uses.

That is wrong.

Our entire civilization, nay, every single space-faring species out there, are built upon their technological prowess. How do we travel amongst the stars? Technology. How do we communicate? Technology. How do we feed our citizens? Technology. Technology, technology, technology. We cannot escape it.

What would a focus on technology do for us?

It may uncover new ways of supporting our burgeoning populace. With the Turanei now scourging the former worlds of the Phyr Dominion, and with us unwilling to confront them, we are now running short of options when it comes to a path of expansion. Agricultural technology may increase our yield per world further, allowing each planet to sustain a far higher population than before. This is important, seeing as we have taken in many Phyr refugees that reproduce rapidly and consume resources of our worlds.

As our empire grows, we will also need better and faster means of communication with the far flung reaches of our borders. Fragmentation of communications will only lead to rebellions and break away provinces in the future. Stability requires communication, which in turn requires technology.

I do not think expounding on the military advantages of technological research is necessary; we all know what I think about that subject.

In short, to achieve the best results, we must focus on advancing our technology until we are on par with the Amoneth. Remember, we are only attempting to strive to be on par with the region's most advanced races technologically. There are likely far more advanced species out there that we have not encountered. Remember how badly the furry ships fared against ours due to our superior technology. We cannot let the technological gulf widen any further than it already has... do you think that the other races are also sitting back, taking it easy, and not advancing in technology at all, just waiting for us to catch up?

This is not a game, ladies and gentlemen. There is no rubber-band AI.

 

[Luan]

Esteemed Councilor Treave,
Your words are sincere and I share your passion for the advancement of our glorious civilization, but I must disagree with your heartfelt plea.

Stability before expansion is prudent. Expansion before stability is folly!

You speak wisely of fragmentation leading to decline. We need not look far to see an example of such. Take the Raumen. It is undeniable that their technology as a whole was more advanced than our own. Imagine their might if they had such stability in our first contact war. The full wrath of the clans brought down upon us rather than a mere local dispute? Imagine if WE did not have unity as Codexians during those dark times. We would not have the luxury of debate this day. We would be but cosmic ash, forgotten to the ebb of time.

Nah councilor Treave, technology is not the way for this critical time.
Tools are only as good as the people who are using them!

We MUST vote B!

 

[praetor]

i'm with master treave on this one. i vote C. economically, we recovered from a worse situation so A makes no sense. as for B...

... hopefully, our very own citizens (even the average codexian could see what most of our own councilors could not: the bears brought the wars upon themselves and they should have been left to their rightful fate. extermination) will end the miserable furribears and stall/soften/avoid a diplomatic incident with the Turanei

 

[treave]

The Raumen are held together by their Confederacy, in a system of government different from our own. Their traditional system is designed to work in a fragmented manner, as they have many clans which culturally pay homage to a single Clan Father.

We do not have that luxury. We have no figurehead to unite us. No Emperor, so to speak.

I am a believer in unity against an external foe, and as such will not agree to multikult socialist utopian ideals of unity within. The galaxy is a dark and terrible place. Codexians must learn that their only aegis of safety is within the bosom of Codexia. There is no need for any other reason to unite.

edit: tl;dr, current Codexia = liberalfag modern Europe, Phyrries = Muslims, stability = rainbow society accepting all and sundry.

 

[Angthoron]

Except the Phyrries don't have anywhere else to go and we took them in so we're responsible for them now. This is a tough decision, Councillors, and the time to decide is now!

Speak, all those that have not yet spoken!

 

[treave]

We will never progress if every decision we make is to repair damages to Codexianity caused by our previous actions.

Some mistakes we must ignore, and move on regardless.

edit:

 

[Jack]

We have gone long enough spoiling the Codexians like little children.
I might not have the rhetoric skill of some of my fellow councilors, but my heart is Codexian and my spirit is one of a warrior.

You were quick to forget how treacherous and twisted the bears was.
You spared them even though they had tried to use us against the Turanei.
Mistake after mistake has been made.

Now you prioritize keeping the Codexians fat before our technological progress?

You weren't on the USS BLOBERT when it engaged the Phyrrian fleets. I bet you don't even know the names of the crew.
The people want revenge for our fallen, as do the Turanei.
Let them have it.

I swear to you that someone of my bloodline will one day be responsible for purging of the xeno scum.

 

[Angthoron]

Alas, my poor graphical editor skills do not permit me to portray BLOBERT fitted with Wyrmhole generator, stealth generator, and sub-lightspeed engines to illustrate my opinion of what we could use the fattened Codexians for...

(And wouldn't it be CSS BLOBERT?)

 

[wjw]

What would a focus on technology do for us?

It may uncover new ways of supporting our burgeoning populace.

See the error in your logic. If our population grows exponentially (and it will! The bears will see to that), social problems will only increase. Indeed, if we run short on space to settle everyone, and our worlds are getting more and more crowded, social stability is of the greatest importance! Technology will not fix this.

If you keep a close eye on your fellow Councillors, many of them vote C in the hopes that there WILL be an uprising against the Phyr, and that a large and angry mob will finish the genocide that the Tureinai have started.

 

[Jack]

Alas, my poor graphical editor skills do not permit me to portray BLOBERT fitted with Wyrmhole generator, stealth generator, and sub-lightspeed engines to illustrate my opinion of what we could use the fattened Codexians for...

(And wouldn't it be CSS BLOBERT?)

Oh my mistake.

Yes, it would, CSS BLOBERT is our long-range artillery gunner, vulgarly known as the pop-a-xeno.

 

[treave]

Yes it will.

See: Dyson Sphere. World Ships. Codexianity Ascension.

Personally I couldn't care less if the bears are wiped out by angry mobs. I never wanted them on our worlds in the first place. Technological concerns are more important.

edit: I find your lack of faith in technology disturbing.

 

[Angthoron]

Alas, we have them on our worlds now, Councillor, and many races will look at us now and in the future to see how we treat this delicate issue. They are our responsibility now, we did not enslave them, we did not protect them, we did not destroy them. We took them as refugees, an act of humanitarian aid - and now, we must face the consequences of that choice.

 

[praetor]

kindness isn't a luxury... it's a weakness. what's next? you'll want us to apologize to the furries for having a hand in their near-extinction?

THIS. IS. CODEXIA!