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From Software The Dark Souls Discussion Thread

praetor

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I still don't get many of the game mechanics. I can't tell which weapon is better, I just go for the biggest base dmg and sometimes scaling if it suits me. I wonder how viable are some weapons like rapiers and shit. The game is really something. If they will build and improve on the formula in DS2 then I'm in!

just choose a weapon that suits your playstyle (moveset, speed, range), pump stats accordingly, profit (PvE, of course :))
 

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Edit: the other reason I like it is the accessibility. Pinwheel can be taken out in less than 5 minutes easily if you know where to jump down, and then all you have to do after is kill Patches, and he's a fucking joke. Also, he's an asshole so I enjoy killing him.

can't you kill patches even before Pinwheel, above the "secret" bonfire? never bothered with killing him 'cause i never liked that axe (preferred the garg tail for dex (the most "balanced" of all the axes, imo), battle axe for quality/str (speed), hand axe for str backup weapon (light, fast, decent damage), or the golem axe for sheer fun (dat wind attack))
 

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It seems like pretty much all mobs are more or less immune to all elemental and magic damage in NG+ and pure physical damage is the best way to go, most of the time.
Could anyone confirm that? I'm also thinking that's the case. I feel a bit stupid because I went for a +15 zweihander in NG and now wanted to experiment with elemental weapons in NG+, while they don't seem to be doing that well.
 
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Soul Spears and Fireballs make quick work of everything in NG+ though.

Everything in Dark Souls has diminishing returns including defense. Except Attack. Split damage of Elemental Weapons makes it shit against Expansion content and NG+.
 

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Split damage of Elemental Weapons makes it shit against Expansion content and NG+.

it wasn't always like that, though. elemental weapons were nerfed in many patches and that's why they're so weak now. in the first months after release almost everyone sported elementals in some way or another (but magic, divine and occult were always just shit)
 

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My favourite weapon ?. The Balder side sword (AKA The Balder swag sword) But it can take an age to farm it from the Balder knights if you want it early.

One time I spent three hours farming the Balder Side Sword. Then on my most recent character I got it the very first time I killed one of those Knights and I didn't need it.
 

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One time I spent three hours farming the Balder Side Sword. Then on my most recent character I got it the very first time I killed one of those Knights and I didn't need it.

haha... same/similar thing happened to me. i recently started teaching my gf DkS and she wanted to have a dex character and "she likes swords" so i suggested to farm for the BSS.. it took hours upon hours (but at least it was good training for her :)), then i started a new char while i wait for M$ to fix my GFWL (like that'll happen :( ) and i get a BSS first try. it's like the game knows you're farming for something. and then there's the channeller's trident...
 
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My favourite weapon ?. The Balder side sword (AKA The Balder swag sword) But it can take an age to farm it from the Balder knights if you want it early.

One time I spent three hours farming the Balder Side Sword. Then on my most recent character I got it the very first time I killed one of those Knights and I didn't need it.
story of my life in ds:rage:
 

Kanedias

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One time I spent three hours farming the Balder Side Sword. Then on my most recent character I got it the very first time I killed one of those Knights and I didn't need it.

haha... same/similar thing happened to me. i recently started teaching my gf DkS and she wanted to have a dex character and "she likes swords" so i suggested to farm for the BSS.. it took hours upon hours (but at least it was good training for her :)), then i started a new char while i wait for M$ to fix my GFWL (like that'll happen :( ) and i get a BSS first try. it's like the game knows you're farming for something. and then there's the channeller's trident...

What happened to your GFWL? I don't think it will get fixed on its own, but I had to help a friend of mine who had problems with it like 3 times so I remember a couple of ways that can possibly fix it. Is it the whole "this profile cannot be signed in to Live" crap?
 

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What happened to your GFWL? I don't think it will get fixed on its own, but I had to help a friend of mine who had problems with it like 3 times so I remember a couple of ways that can possibly fix it. Is it the whole "this profile cannot be signed in to Live" crap?

yup. it worked fine for a year and a half. i tried:
1) resetting the router to factory settings. reopening the ports. enable port triggering (because why not)
2) reinstalling GFWL (uninstalled both GFWL things and the Live ID assistant), i can login into the client marketplace application but the in-game piece of shit still doesn't let me login
3) deleting internet history + flushdns
4) checking if the Background Internet TS service is running (it is)
5) installing an older version of GFWL (3.3), but this one doesn't let me login into the client and in-game it wants to update, and i let it, but then it says it cannot install the update

:x:x:x:x:x/:flamesaw:

:negative:
 

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What happened to your GFWL? I don't think it will get fixed on its own, but I had to help a friend of mine who had problems with it like 3 times so I remember a couple of ways that can possibly fix it. Is it the whole "this profile cannot be signed in to Live" crap?

yup. it worked fine for a year and a half. i tried:
1) resetting the router to factory settings. reopening the ports. enable port triggering (because why not)
2) reinstalling GFWL (uninstalled both GFWL things and the Live ID assistant), i can login into the client marketplace application but the in-game piece of shit still doesn't let me login
3) deleting internet history + flushdns
4) checking if the Background Internet TS service is running (it is)
5) installing an older version of GFWL (3.3), but this one doesn't let me login into the client and in-game it wants to update, and i let it, but then it says it cannot install the update

:x:x:x:x:x/:flamesaw:

:negative:

Last time it happened it was... a week ago I guess? anyways most things we looked up online didn't work, what did the trick was creating a new account, logging in, and then switching to the older account. I have no idea why that working when reinstalling and such didn't. It's so inconsistent and random.
 

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Last time it happened it was... a week ago I guess? anyways most things we looked up online didn't work, what did the trick was creating a new account, logging in, and then switching to the older account. I have no idea why that working when reinstalling and such didn't. It's so inconsistent and random.

it happened to me almost a week ago (sunday) so you give me hope your solution might work :) where did you create the new account? in the in-game client, the gfwl client/marketplace or web? will try this as soon as i get off work
 

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Last time it happened it was... a week ago I guess? anyways most things we looked up online didn't work, what did the trick was creating a new account, logging in, and then switching to the older account. I have no idea why that working when reinstalling and such didn't. It's so inconsistent and random.

it happened to me almost a week ago (sunday) so you give me hope your solution might work :) where did you create the new account? in the in-game client, the gfwl client/marketplace or web? will try this as soon as i get off work

That I don't know, my GFWL had this problem ages ago but it didn't malfunct again (I believe that time I just had to redownload the profile to solve it). The one who had this problem last week was a friend of mine, and he just told me he created a new account, not how. I hope that works, otherwise I'll keep searching to see if I can find anything else you haven't tried yet. They won't fix this themselves.
 

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The reason Moonlight Sword quickly became one of my favourites (I've told this one earlier in this topic) was the unexpectedly pleasant surprise it did to me once when I finally beat Manus while using it (Zwei too slow):

I thought I'd made a critical mistake in failing to connect to Manus with the last blow I'd need when Manus did that jump backwards thing of his, and expected that I'd just get killed at the edge of victory again. Then I learned that the R2 strike I had tried to use was actually a projectile attack which promptly killed Manus when he was starting to prepare for his next attack. Much rejoicing was had.
 

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That I don't know, my GFWL had this problem ages ago but it didn't malfunct again (I believe that time I just had to redownload the profile to solve it). The one who had this problem last week was a friend of mine, and he just told me he created a new account, not how. I hope that works, otherwise I'll keep searching to see if I can find anything else you haven't tried yet. They won't fix this themselves.

tried making a new account, it won't let me login anyway (neither on the new, nor on the old account). something is seriously fucked :(
 

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Probably banned for hacking in PvP.

:rage:

the thought occurred to me but then i remembered i'm not a scrub and don't need such lowly tactics :smug: (and you actually get a message that you've been banned, not that the login failed :P)
 

Kanedias

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That I don't know, my GFWL had this problem ages ago but it didn't malfunct again (I believe that time I just had to redownload the profile to solve it). The one who had this problem last week was a friend of mine, and he just told me he created a new account, not how. I hope that works, otherwise I'll keep searching to see if I can find anything else you haven't tried yet. They won't fix this themselves.

tried making a new account, it won't let me login anyway (neither on the new, nor on the old account). something is seriously fucked :(

Damn that sucks. Also I have been checking online again, and this problem is so random that there are like 101 different ways to "fix" (usually reinstalling another version of GFWL, redownloading profiles and such things) it and usually none of them work. Bleh.

P.S.: My own DkS is now stuck on "Preparing to launch" apparently.

Edit: I start doing something else thinking it doesn't work and DkS finally launches, like 7 minutes later. Hahaha.
 

aris

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Is there some kind of fucking damage ceiling in Dark Souls? I tried to see if I could one shot a silver knight with my running weak attack using power within, and I fell just barely short. Then I enhanced the scythe with greater magic weapon, now these should stack as they are weapon and personal buffs, plus it says nothing on the wiki pages of the two that they don't, and the damage was exactly the same! WTF? If that's how they balance damage in dark souls, with putting hard caps on how much damage you can do in a swing, then that's some seriously shabby design :decline:
 

Kanedias

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There is no damage cap at all, and weapon buffs do stack with power within. Must be some sort of coincidence. I also remember that I could one shot them with a running attack with my great scythe, but I was using Sunlight Blade.
 

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Coincidence? Must be more like a bug, if they do stack and I do exactly the same damage with or without. Are you sure there is no damage ceiling? I noticed when one shoting the fire breathing bastards in blight town that I did exactly 400 damage to them when killing them. Now that is an oddly even number.
 

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Coincidence? Must be more like a bug, if they do stack and I do exactly the same damage with or without. Are you sure there is no damage ceiling? I noticed when one shoting the fire breathing bastards in blight town that I did exactly 400 damage to them when killing them. Now that is an oddly even number.

there is no damage ceiling. just searching for a bit you'd have found a whole series of one-shotting goddamn bosses videos on youtube
 
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Is your magic stat weak? Armor in DaS is damage-reducing. Since the magic damage is a separate damage type from regular damage it has to pass a separate damage-reduction component, and below a threshold it will do no or almost no damage at all.
 

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