The Elder Scrolls Online

[RK47]

Stop complaining and try to enjoy a game that doesn't need to be completed in 10 days. Or 3 months, at that.

As to the OP and this thread: I suspect they'll adjust dungeon exp to hit a sweet mid-point (maybe part of the current ongoing maintenance and update). That being said... quit with the 'white-knighting,' fanboy, and other such ridiculous accusations for people that like the game. A balanced reaction is called for: this isn't the worst game, and it isn't flawless. Like any other game (MMO or not), it is in early release, and will need some updating. If this surprises you... well, I don't know what to say. But don't act like the game is dead, that is as ridiculous as someone saying the game is perfect.

It is childish to accuse someone of white knighting simply because they present a reasonably thought-out explanation as to the reason for a particular set of circumstances. One might even think that there is a hidden agenda to throwing out the accusation of white knighting; i.e. fear that the explanation may be correct

i do not want people to just be busting dungeons all the time for xp but at the same time if they do so what the sooner they all rage about content and quit the better the community will be. I do find it a shame so many people whine this is the best early access i have ever played and i have played many. . . Many many.

If you can complain this hard and throw your toys out of the pram over some minor issues like "omg the xp isnt enough for me" then real life is going to be tough for you because its full of dissapointments lol. Enjoy what the game does have not dont just focus on the teething problems eh.

I've decided to treat them the same way I did Secret World, put in a ticket every day asking when its going to be fixed

 

[Angthoron]

"Over 5 million registered to beta"

And only 200k playing in a year.

Being generous here.

 

[RK47]

It makes you FEEL good that you're one of them, don't you?
For those who are sad or missing out, you can still come and join us, hurry! Adventure awaits!

 

[deuxhero]

Wait this launched already?

Wow, not even seeing people complain about how bad/broken it is. No one cares.

 

[Bubbles]

99% of players are having lots of fun with the game, but the negativity in this thread has driven them away.

 

[Scroo]

99% of players are having lots of fun with the game, but the negativity in this thread has driven them away.

 

[Dwemer Puzzle Box]

99% of players are having lots of fun with the game (...)

So did people playing Oblivion. Your point?

 

[Ulminati]

 

[Cyberarmy]

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/palomino_horse


DUN DUN DUN....

Edit:

One simple horse for nearly a months payment... I wish that was some kind of sick Aprils Fool...

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Day 1 DLC

 

[Thane Solus]

man the launch trailer makes no sense to me...lacks of soul and its a big deja vu from Warhammer Online and Neverwinterz...

 

[Crispy]

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/palomino_horse

At least it's got some horse armor on it...

 

[Crispy]

I'd like to offer my initial impressions of the game so far. I'm not ready to do any kind of a full review on it, but I suppose I might consider doing that down the road.

I have to admit (and I'm certain to no surprise of many here) I like the game.

TESO has a certain, shall we say, simplicity to it. Refer to Ulminati's pic, above, I guess, but I don't care. "Clean" might be a better description.

- Let's get this out of the way right now: the graphics are pleasing. They really are. Hero Engine has been pretty heavily modified for TESO and ZO has done an excellent job streamlining it while not making it look like ass. The game runs at extremely smooth framerates even on a single GPU, even when most settings are maxed out, on at least a decent rig. While the character models aren't perfect by any means, there are enough nice touches thrown in with weapons and armor details, spell effects, the creature models and so forth to not make one vomit while playing. Looks better than SWTOR, not as nice as Skyrim. Somewhere in-between.

- The controls are eh..... not bad. I do have a problem with the sluggish feeling of combat, especially when playing a heavy two-hander (think big Nerf bat swinging at large cotton balls), at least casting spells seems to be pretty snappy as does running, jumping, mounting your horse, and the like. I've noticed some bugs hanging around such as having your character occasionally facing in the wrong direction once you initiate the mining of a resource node, but it's pretty rare. Also, most display-based problems, if they do occur, can easily be cured by re initializing the UI with a simple command.

- Speaking of the UI, it's minimal, but it's fairly well-done. The inventory screen doesn't take up the whole screen and the paper doll is very basic, but it's effective. The game uses a Skyrim-like approach to organizing your items, so you can filter between apparel, weapons, crafting materials, quest items, etc. You can also sort by value and you can designate anything in your inventory as junk to easily facilitate selling anything you don't need to vendors quickly.

- So far I like the crafting. I'm not much of a pre-researcher when it comes to MMO's; I like to just discover how to do things as I go along, and working out how the creation of items works, how to deconstruct them, how to enchant them, etc., has been rather fun. I appreciate that you can sacrifice certain types of items at a forge to "research" how their attributes work so you can improve your own items with them later on. Finding the rather mysterious materials needed to do a lot of this so far has been trial-and-error for me, but again I don't mind that because I tend to ease into crafting slowly in MMO's.

- The areas in Tamriel I've visited so far have all been at least a little bit interesting. I like the landscapes, things like rocks and trees and bodies of water have been placed fairly intelligently from what I can tell, and the towns and cities in particular are surprisingly non-retarded as well. I'd even venture that they're much better done than in Skyrim, which makes sense because they have to accommodate a much larger population being in an MMO, but many of the building admittedly don't really contain much. Still, it's often worth it to enter some of those non-decript or out-of-the-way buildings just to see if they've got a bookshelf or extra chest hidden in them somewhere which can contain some really useful items. Skills can be improved (instantly, yes) by finding certain books so you never know if it'll be worth it to poke around.

- The skill tree is a mixed bag for me. It's certainly not a deep one, but then again it's rather refreshing not to have your skills ding after every other mob killed. Attaining the next level in a skill or in a perk is a real accomplishment, and it's funny because if you're a fighter like me you're constantly balancing the desire to take on more trash mobs to keep leveling your skills along with the equal desire to not use up your weapon's charges too quickly since soul gems aren't lying around everywhere (like they were in Skyrim!)

Here are some things I don't like:

- At this stage, I see no point in grouping up with anyone, not even Irenaeus. I'm currently only level 8, so I'm sure the later dungeons and mob bosses will require teamwork, but I was a little surprised at just how much solo play is encouraged. To be fair, apparently Zenimax claimed that the entire time, so it doesn't upset me, but it does leave one wondering what the damned point is. Oh well, there's always cybering and LARPing that you're a filthy cat, right?

- The quests. They suck. Actually, not all of them are horrible -- you can disguise yourself and rescue your new pirate friends in one quest, and you have to re-enter Coldharbour (Molag Bal's realm) with "The Prophet" and witness some of the history of what led up to Tamriel's predicament in this game in another, so some effort's been put in here and there. But most of them are pretty bad. The writing and often the VO are the major offenders, though; at times it's comically bad. I think a lot of cleanup work is still needed and more than a little polishing. One example of ZO's desire to do so is the much higher-quality version of the game's opening cinematic which recently got updated in a large patch. The difference was night and day, so it's pretty clear a lot of stuff might be currently in "placeholder" mode. We'll see.

- The game, as large as it is, is still compartmentalized. While Daggerfall and its surrounding environs seems huge at first, it's still disappointing that there isn't a more open-world design as with GW2. More than a couple of people have commented on this, expecting it to be so with a TES title. And I don't blame them, but I do understand the need to segment off to some degree. Apparently the game, while not using true instances, does use "partitions" to keep the population on any particular map to a manageable amount. What it's lead to, from what I understand, is real frustration when attempting to group up with friends or guildmates, and in particular there's a real awkwardness when it comes to cooperating on quests. You really can't do that. What happens is that players get "out of phase" with one another because one player's already killed this mob or done that part of the current quest so the game won't let them participate again. I'm not sure how they're going to fix this, but they're promising to do so. See above about my point about, uh, pointlessness.

Still, TESO has surprised me. I went in expecting shit, and I'm at more of a solid 'meh' than that. Hell, I'll even give it a half-boner, because again the game is very smooth, it's easy to get into, and I'm *hoping* that the difficulty will start to escalate otherwise I'll be bailing after my pre-paid month's sub runs out. So, if you're carefully straddling your nutsack on the fence over this one, and if you can afford the entry fee, I'd say jump in. If only to help get the population of my own guild, the Purifiers of the Codex, past exactly one member. So ronery.

TL;DR: It's good for what it is.

 

[Metro]

So, like I said, it's less of an MMO, and more like co-op Skyrim.

 

[Crispy]

That's a fair assessment.

 

[Metro]

That's not necessarily bad. Just nothing I'd pay a subscription for.

 

[Delterius]

It looks like the code the devs used to disable mail on the NA server was faulty and also deleted all bank items, bugged account security and disabled guild chat. Rollbacks likely incoming for the NA servers; the EU server are reportedly fine. Of couse this sort of thing is normal for an Early Access game, it's just disheartening to see so many hate threads springing up over it.

I can't stop laughing man. :D

 

[balmorar]

How can anybody pay money for this boring shit bland lifeless generic game.

 

[Mortmal]

- At this stage, I see no point in grouping up with anyone, not even Irenaeus. I'm currently only level 8, so I'm sure the later dungeons and mob bosses will require teamwork, but I was a little surprised at just how much solo play is encouraged. To be fair, apparently Zenimax claimed that the entire time, so it doesn't upset me, but it does leave one wondering what the damned point is. Oh well, there's always cybering and LARPing that you're a filthy cat, right?

Its mostly solo yes and play almost like an usual elderscrolls game, but group dungeons exists and are much tougher than the open world, muh much tougher. You will need tank+ healer wich is extremely rare in elderscrolls online as there's no dual specs and no one wants to solo as healer .

 

[Scroo]

Its mostly solo yes and play almost like an usual elderscrolls game, but group dungeons exists and are much tougher than the open world, muh much tougher. You will need tank+ healer wich is extremely rare in elderscrolls online as there's no dual specs and no one wants to solo as healer .

Understandable. I am soloing as a templar healer and it's tough as hell.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

So, like I said, it's less of an MMO, and more like co-op Skyrim.

That's a fair assessment.

No,it's MMO, just like WOW,SWTOR and likes.Unless someone gives example how it's like Skyrim design and structure wise ? You quest in the appropriate zone ,when hit dungeon level you group,if you want you pvp ,there is actual builds and classes ,combat is tab targeting,you even have ultimate ability,group combat is Tank/DPS/Heal.What is like Skyrim exactly?The font of the UI...

 

[Metro]

Final boss can be done solo. Not an MMO.

 

[Crispy]

So, like I said, it's less of an MMO, and more like co-op Skyrim.

That's a fair assessment.

No,it's MMO, just like WOW,SWTOR and likes.Unless someone gives example how it's like Skyrim design and structure wise ? You quest in the appropriate zone ,when hit dungeon level you group,if you want you pvp ,there is actual builds and classes ,combat is tab targeting,you even have ultimate ability,group combat is Tank/DPS/Heal.What is like Skyrim exactly?The font of the UI...

First-person perspective, complete freedom of movement including sneaking, there is no tab targeting you moran, completely free-swinging of your weapon (or spellcasting) and miss if you want to. The game feels like a TES game with the necessary considerations taken into account to make it a viable MMO.

 

[Dwemer Puzzle Box]

Soooo... If there's little to no point of grouping and it's mostly solo game packaged as an MMO running on the Skyrim's success bandwagon, what's the point in doing said MMO instead of a GOOD Elder Scrolls game, me wonders?
I want my Lawrence of Elsweyr.

Spoiler

Hard mode: avoid "money" argument

 

[Night Goat]

Hard mode isn't possible, because money is the only reason they're doing this. The intention of AAA studios isn't to make a good game, it's to maximize profit. By making an MMO, they're betting that subscription fees and microtransactions will make up for increased costs and potentially fewer sales.