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Decline The era of PC gaming is OVER! (weird role-reversal)

Necrensha

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There is no reason to upgrade if every game that requires it it's complete garbage. What is the point?
But this is actually good news, if nobody upgrades and every AAA fails then the industry will eventually be forced to change their retarded ways. Or die.
 

Riel

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I am still in a i5 6600, it's 9 years old CPU for god's sake and it still works. Granted I don't really play the latest games but I do play VR with it with no issues. All in all I wouldn't say this situation is bad news. PCs used to last for a couple years before becoming obsolete 30 years ago, I find the current situation much better for gamers in contrast.
The real tragedy for PC gamers are game developers, they are stale and focusing on the wrong things, the only part of gaming where there's still innovation is VR, there's a lot of developers trying out the new stuff and coming up with things to take advantage of it.
I think more than a VR thing it'¡s a budget thing, the smaller a game's budget is the more risky and innovative developers dare to go, sometime they get a turd, sometimes an small jewel.
 

Nifft Batuff

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Nothing's changed, you're still fucking retarded if you own a console post PS2.
Playstation 3 had several games that were either exclusive to the PS3 or at least not available on PC:
  • Soul Calibur IV (2008, Namco) is a good fighting game only available on console
  • Demon's Souls (2009, From Software) is the first Souls game and still the best; also remains a PS3 exclusive except for the PS5 remake
  • Yakuza 3 (2009, Sega), 4 (2010), and 5 (2012) were all released on PS3 but had revised re-releases on PS4 in 2018/2019
  • Flower (2009, ThatGameCompany) is an artsy pseudo-game worth experiencing once as an experiment
  • Dark Souls (2011, From Software), though it had a PC port the next year becoming Codex GotY
  • Ico (2001, Sony) and Shadow of the Colossus (2005, Sony) were re-released as a compilation on the PS3 (2011) with slightly improved graphics from the original PS2 versions
  • Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (2012/2013, Capcom), though it was finally ported to the PC in 2016 becoming Codex GotY
  • Dragon's Crown (2013, Vanillaware) is a beat-'em-up with RPG elements never ported to PC or anything else except a handheld device
And the PS3 also functions as a blu-ray player.
You can play these on a cheap PC too, through emulation, barring Dragon Dogma and Dark Souls, that have a pc port, as you said. I think Flower has a native pc port too.
If there was a reason to buy a console in the past, this reason is completely negligible today, while all the issues of the consoles are still there, or are even getting worse with the new trends (GaaS, subscriptions, etc.) due to the closed nature of these household appliances.
 

lightbane

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But this is actually good news, if nobody upgrades and every AAA fails then the industry will eventually be forced to change their retarded ways. Or die.
Eventually, all Western companies will die or adapt, or worse, China will buy every western game company and become the T.E.N.CE.N.T. megacorp, and then things will get REALLY bad as they'll monetize EVERYTHING. On the plus side, at least we won't have to worry about hags anymore.
 
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Some modern Strategy games can also require a good graphics card if you play it on max settings. I tried having a 'gaming' laptop, it was way too hot, even playing games it should not get very hot playing, there is just not enough space inside the laptop I think. I used it for 3 years though as my main, actually only computer, but decided I did not like how loud and hot it got, eventually it was going to overheat and die if I kept using it for gaming. Its still my travel computer though. I will never use a console though because I hate gay ass controllers.
 

lycanwarrior

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But seriously, I grew up during the days when there was clear separation between console and PC gaming markets. When there were games that were strictly released on only consoles or only PCs.

Those days seem to be already coming to an end, sadly enough.

Gaming is becoming more and more standardized, homogenized.
 

Azdul

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There is no reason to upgrade if every game that requires it it's complete garbage. What is the point?
But this is actually good news, if nobody upgrades and every AAA fails then the industry will eventually be forced to change their retarded ways. Or die.
Publishers will just shut down Denuvo or multiplayer servers for older game or make it intentionally incompatible with new console / new Windows update - and sell you a remaster/sequel that costed pennies to make, as there was no real upgrade of technology or assets.

Rockstar, Blizzard, Ubisoft or Nintendo are already doing it.
 

Moonrise

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Make the Codex Great Again!
It's important to note today that the gamer is a minority customer of GPUs. Both Nvidia and AMD, their primary customer base are mega corps running datacenters. Roughly 1/3 of all Nvidia revenue comes from MS, Meta, and Amazon. Just those three. In 2024 less than 20% of revenue was from gaming. Your video games are an afterthought. PC gaming is dead, and chatbots killed it.
 

Zarniwoop

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Who cares about those retards with their $2000 fake frame generators? Intel is saving the day.

Also, no. Chatbots didn't kill gaming. Shitty taste and cultural decline did.
 

Azdul

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Who cares about those retards with their $2000 fake frame generators? Intel is saving the day.

Also, no. Chatbots didn't kill gaming. Shitty taste and cultural decline did.
In order to be compete with older Nvidia and AMD cards, Intel Battlemage is using 4nm EUV TSMC node.

It means that Intel cannot afford to sell them at current prices in the long run.
 

Zarniwoop

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Who cares about those retards with their $2000 fake frame generators? Intel is saving the day.

Also, no. Chatbots didn't kill gaming. Shitty taste and cultural decline did.
In order to be compete with older Nvidia and AMD cards, Intel Battlemage is using 4nm EUV TSMC node.

It means that Intel cannot afford to sell them at current prices in the long run.

In the long run a lot can change, you buy based on what's on the market now.
 

JC'sBarber

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PC gaming isn't dead or dying, but high-end PCs for the consumer certainly are. Outside of professionals and business use there is literally NO reason to invest thousands of dollars in an RTX 4090/5090 build. We will start to see the rise of the APU over the GPU, with AMD's "Strix Halo" line looking to be quite a substantial leap over current offerings, enough to play a majority of AAA titles at reasonable settings. Not the newest slop, mind you, but titles before 2020 at least.

Gaming in general is a midst of a great transition, and the mindset the industry had before now will have to be phased out if any of these companies are going to survive. Once the woke elements are purged, I think the AA space will see a renaissance unlike any other.
 

Azdul

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Who cares about those retards with their $2000 fake frame generators? Intel is saving the day.

Also, no. Chatbots didn't kill gaming. Shitty taste and cultural decline did.
In order to be compete with older Nvidia and AMD cards, Intel Battlemage is using 4nm EUV TSMC node.

It means that Intel cannot afford to sell them at current prices in the long run.

In the long run a lot can change, you buy based on what's on the market now.
Many people buy new hardware assuming that the drivers and software support (XeSS) will get better in a year or two.
 

Zarniwoop

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Who cares about those retards with their $2000 fake frame generators? Intel is saving the day.

Also, no. Chatbots didn't kill gaming. Shitty taste and cultural decline did.
In order to be compete with older Nvidia and AMD cards, Intel Battlemage is using 4nm EUV TSMC node.

It means that Intel cannot afford to sell them at current prices in the long run.

In the long run a lot can change, you buy based on what's on the market now.
Many people buy new hardware assuming that the drivers and software support (XeSS) will get better in a year or two.
Sure. But no one buys hardware based on some nerd shit like what process a factory is using. Or what prices may be in the long run.
 

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