Game News The Fallout Game Informer article

[Kingston]

Like I said somewhere before, V.A.T.S is a pun of the process of creating this combat system. They basically chucked real-time and turn-based into an FEV vat hoping to get a Master, but instead they were left with a Harry.

 

[sheek]

You know what Tales, calling other people stupid 20x a day will not make you any smarter.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Lol, wttiest comment evah.
You still haven't got over it? So much for not taking this seriously.
Is taking everything seriously and personly and your newly found obsession with me also part of your 'role' ? Or are you half-drunk maybe?

Oh, I'm in your sig. Awesomess

 

[sheek]

LOL. Tell me what role would you like me to play? I think you like the attention.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Yeah, as I said, Im in ur sig, pure awesomeness

I think the dumbfuck role suits you very well, thanks for asking

 

[sheek]

I'm glad you're happy.

 

[Joe Krow]

Why don't you two kiss and make up? You would both look so sexy in your Vault 13 stretchy pants. True to the source material and sexy? Double play.

 

[Jedi_Learner]

...

 

[Ratty]

Your right, my comments about choice and consequence don't address these graphic "aborations." I mention the positives because you are too much of a chicken little to do it yourself. You beat up on Bethesda in the past for focusing on the graphics. Now that's all you want to do. The gameplay is 100% improved so you choose to ignore it. They have addressed every point that was raised about Oblivion but all you want to do is bitch.

You do realize that Bethesda are almost certainly lying about FO3 having choices and consequences? They promised the same for Morrowind, and even created the Fargoth quest to demonstrate, yet the final game contained nothing of such... except in the Fargoth quest. This time around, they didn't even bother to cite examples from the game, let alone show all that awesome roleplaying depth in action. Frankly, I'd say they are full of shit... again... especially when you consider that the game will rely heavily on scripted events and narration. I don't know what you <s>naive suckers</s> "optimists" make of that, but for me that spells total linearity.

 

[John Yossarian]

I haven't read the entire thread, but has anyone mentioned how ironic it is that people complain the Codex doesn't believe all the crap they say before release, but when VD's Oblivion review was posted on several sites a lot of them said we were just naive suckers who shouldn't have believed all the hype? Lovely place, the internets.

 

[Ander Vinz]

On the subject of Fallout 3, how do you feel about Bethesda getting the license?

To be perfectly honest, I was extremely disappointed that we did not get the chance to make the next Fallout game. This has nothing to do with Bethesda, it's just that we've always felt that Fallout was ours and it was just a technicality that Interplay happened to own it. It sort of felt as if our child had been sold to the highest bidder, and we had to just sit by and watch.

never forget

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

Just like Oblivion could have sucked or not. Guess what? I did.

Oooh! Jesus! Jesus Chris!

 

[Micmu]

You sucked it because a stupid game did?

 

[Saxon1974]

Anyone know what stores sell game informer mag? I looked at a couple of places, barnes and noble etc...and didnt see it anywhere. Is it only sold at gamestops?

I dont buy many pc game mags anymore because they dont cover the kind of games im interested in, but im curious enough to buy this one if I could find it. I guess you have to be an XBOX kiddo to get the mag at the gamestop eh?

 

[Vault Dweller]

In a stunning conclusion to the Game Informer article drama, Bethesda and Game Informer forced NMA to remove the scans under legal threats.

The "We Love Bethesda Day!" has been canceled.

 

[Amasius]

In a stunning conclusion to the Game Informer article drama, Bethesda and Game Informer forced NMA to remove the scans under legal threats.

The "We Love Bethesda Day!" has been canceled.

OH NOES!

But hey - that doesn't surprise anyone, right?

 

[Top Hat]

I just searched for "No Mutants Allowed".

The first thing that popped up was "No Men Allowed".

He he he.

 

[Joe Krow]

On the one hand they had some free publicity on the other you set a bad precedent. They chose control (particularly when dealing with a site that might soon be hostile). No suprise really.

 

[Fez]

Ah, so it was the legal threat they tried with the scans. Pretty shitty.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

I have sigged the TRUTH in the article.

 

[Jason]

In a stunning conclusion to the Game Informer article drama, Bethesda and Game Informer forced NMA to remove the scans under legal threats.

They're still around in a few places.

 

[Grandpa Gamer]

...which was the prediction that combat will become "V.A.T.S., retreat, V.A.T.S., retreat, etc.". I guess that the only way to stifle that would be to slow down AP-regeneration not only for attacking, but also for moving. And perhaps the opposition will also get their own V.A.T.S-equivalence whenever the player uses it?

Here I go with another best case scenario: :D
V.A.T.S is probably Beth's attempt to please everybody at the same time. If we are lucky, they succeed, and the gameplay will be like this: You activate V.A.T.S (pause the game, more or less) and are able to use your action points. When your points are all spent, you do nothing while you wait for them to recharge. The recharge time should equal your enemy's turn, and you activate V.A.T.S again when your points have fully recharged. Ideally there should be an option to automatically activate V.A.T.S each time your action points are fully recharged during combat - for true turn based play (well, almost). In this best case scenario, your action points should not recharge at all as long as you act (move, shoot or whatever) for true real time combat.

In theory something like V.A.T.S could provide turn based combat, real time combat and anything in between. :shock:
Then, in theory the game could provide interesting quests with choices and consequenses too...

 

[Mr. Teatime]

Except VATS is only for a called shot. So it's less than FO's turn based mode, because you could choose to do a regular shot, or burst mode, or whatever else you wanted to do. In Bethsoft's system, that sort of thing has to be done in real time, if I understand it correctly. And some weapons you couldn't use to do a called shot anyway.

 

[GhanBuriGhan]

Except VATS is only for a called shot. So it's less than FO's turn based mode, because you could choose to do a regular shot, or burst mode, or whatever else you wanted to do. In Bethsoft's system, that sort of thing has to be done in real time, if I understand it correctly. And some weapons you couldn't use to do a called shot anyway.

Thats what it seems like, an aimed shot mode. However, I assume that accessing the inventory and switching weapons will also cost AP.

 

[Globbi]

In a stunning conclusion to the Game Informer article drama, Bethesda and Game Informer forced NMA to remove the scans under legal threats.

They're still around in a few places.

Yeah, but most people complaining about what the article contains read it thanks to NMA. They seem to don't care about minor sites where all the readers are enthusiastic about F3 even more after the article.