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The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

Mark.L.Joy

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The last portion of CS3 is a dumpster fire.
 

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I dislike the fact that everyone seems to want to destroy the world but I hope it gets explained in Cold Steel 4.
 
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cruel said:
Is it only me, or is the ending of Cold Steel 3 very... disappointing? To be precise, I mean events before the final dungeon. Heavy spoilers below for those who didn't play.

For the whole game, there is a slow buildup of tension and intrigue - different factions involved (Osborne, Gnomes, Ouroboros), working against each other, having their own goals. Secrecy, mystery, nothing is known - OK. Gnomes and Ouroboros almost fight with each other at Juno Fortress. The game keeps building this up and making the aura of mystery more and more dense. And then, suddenly, 5min before the final dungeon, all of that is thrown away for the sake of: 'let's all of us combine forces together and work on destroying the world! yay!'. Seriously? WTF was that? I found that totally unbelievable and felt treated like an idiot to be honest.

I've just entered the final dungeon, so if the game changes some of that in the next few hours, please have this in mind (spoiler-wise).


And of course, I was too weak to wait, continued playing CS3 and bought CS4 already.
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Don't think any of this is super spoilerish and I haven't played 4 yet, but some thoughts and speculation:

Ouroboros' top interest is to get/extract the sep-terrions (which clearly reside as broken fragments within the Divine Knights as discussed by Roselia's history). The experiments were clearly meant to be a test to of some kind of power induction from the Divine Knights to show that that was where the sep-terrions lay; whilst the Aions were in part powered by Valimar, the intent was to get Rutger's, possibly (Spoiler at the very end)'s and Crow's Knights to be the potential spark each time for each experiment. Clearly they concluded from their experiments that the fragments are with/linked to the Knights, and that they are only going to get these now from the knights is by releasing the curse, presumably forcing conflict between all seven knights so that they can try and extract the fragments as whole sep-terrion and the easiest bit is to support the Gnomes in doing so, although it is unlikely that they have any interest in the end of the world, and certainly don't share the Gnomes'. ... extreme methods as you will probably find out soon enough. It is also clear throughout the game that they are actually trying to hedge their bets, as they clearly have players sitting on both sides of the fence, and are probably guessing that they will be able to stop the gnomes and osborne in their goals.

Also with respect to the Ironbloods, most of them are quite undecided whether this is the right thing to do as they reveal through their dialogue, so it is not like they are all particularly happy about it. In fact it is only because Osborne has "revealed some of the truth to them" that they took part, which one suspects is probably something about that the curse can only be destroyed by first releasing it.
 
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Finished the first Trails of Cold Steel yesterday and started with II today. I chose to import the save data from 1, does that make much of a difference in terms of gameplay or reactivity beyond the items that you get at the start?
 

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lol the best thing to come out this shitty franchise is the live action musical. What time is it when rean does that really goofy dance?
 
cruel

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They fixed it today, working fine now. Game plays the same (mechanically) as CS3.

For those interested - the game DOES ask you for save data. Not only from CS3, but also CS2 and CS1. So it might we worth to play all on the same platform (not sure about the exact consequences though).
 

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cruel said:
They fixed it today, working fine now. Game plays the same (mechanically) as CS3.

For those interested - the game DOES ask you for save data. Not only from CS3, but also CS2 and CS1. So it might we worth to play all on the same platform (not sure about the exact consequences though).
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Good to know for my master play through on PC. Thanks!

I’m still getting it on PS4 regardless.
 
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If you are planning to play CS4 you should definitely start with nightmare difficulty (cannot change into nightmare after easier mode). I have probably played around 50%+~ and I have died 0 times. By far the easiest game in the whole series (so far at least, I have played all games on nightmare mode and in sky 1-2 I probably 100+ times)
 

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Jermu said:
If you are planning to play CS4 you should definitely start with nightmare difficulty (cannot change into nightmare after easier mode). I have probably played around 50%+~ and I have died 0 times. By far the easiest game in the whole series (so far at least, I have played all games on nightmare mode and in sky 1-2 I probably 100+ times)
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CS 3 also started easy before significant difficulty spikes later on.

I think I'm going to start on Hard and leave Nightmare to my PC playthrough.
 

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Ysaye said:
Got an email from NISA yesterday that pre-orders of Cold Steel 4 have been delayed; they are apparently hoping to ship the (original) release week for NISA and November 2nd for NISA Europe.
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Have you had an email saying it's been dispatched yet?

I haven't. Sitting at home now hoping I'll get it this week. Taken the entire week off.
 
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Rean said:
Ysaye said:
Got an email from NISA yesterday that pre-orders of Cold Steel 4 have been delayed; they are apparently hoping to ship the (original) release week for NISA and November 2nd for NISA Europe.
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Have you had an email saying it's been dispatched yet?

I haven't. Sitting at home now hoping I'll get it this week. Taken the entire week off.
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Sorry mate - no good news :( - I got a followup email on the 27th October saying that they were having no luck, and that the new timing was that they were hoping to ship on the 9th of November, but basically that was not guaranteed. So sorry....
 

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Ysaye said:
Rean said:
Ysaye said:
Got an email from NISA yesterday that pre-orders of Cold Steel 4 have been delayed; they are apparently hoping to ship the (original) release week for NISA and November 2nd for NISA Europe.
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Have you had an email saying it's been dispatched yet?

I haven't. Sitting at home now hoping I'll get it this week. Taken the entire week off.
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Sorry mate - no good news :( - I got a followup email on the 27th October saying that they were having no luck, and that the new timing was that they were hoping to ship on the 9th of November, but basically that was not guaranteed. So sorry....
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I just emailed them and got the same reply. Week beginning 9th November.

Oh well. I'll spend the next 5 days watching Netflix I guess.
 
Jermu

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Finished the game, quite sure this might be one of the longest kiseki games.

Some thoughts with spoilers:

  1. Probably easiest game in the whole series (at least on nightmare) - I wiped only in 1 mandatory end game duel vs self because lack of speed gear and few challenge chests because of insta death / petrify bs with bad gear chars.
  2. Game tries really hard to make you fuck your sister and you get cock blocked by a ghost
  3. Dmg arts can do ridiculous amount of dmg now with right setup more than phys which is first time for CS game I think. Too bad no followup chance -> no BP points and casting time. I just used Emma couple of times to nuke with lost art and then bench for rest of the fight.. Chrono burst breaks the game I would advice not to use this at all. 1 Lost art which recovers 100cp was also great.
  4. Too many mech battles which are boring. Last mech battle would be very brutal without items
  5. Most memorable scene in CS3 gets ruined when no1 dies in the airship crash - guess in Kiseki games no1 dies easily. Oh well I like Oliver but his personality completely changed compared to tits 1-2
  6. I actually prefer normal ending compared to canon ending seems more meaningful. "True" final boss was also a joke easily the easiest in the whole series.
  7. Plot and "villain" characters actions did not make much sense

Still enjoyed this game, CS3 or CS4 I would consider best CS game.
 
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Grr I hate when a game does that. 3 boss fights in a row, followed by a mandatory teleport right after to a different location. Older CS games used to ask you if you are sure you want to back or do you need more time. I still had one trial chest left plus an item in one of the shops. Are you able to come back in the future, or would I need to re-do all 3 fights now? I mean the ones with this idiot Gilbert and two after that.

First 10h were extremely boring, I'm happy that stuff starts to happen finally.
 
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