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The Mysterious Mystery of the Codex Murders

Viata

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So far, it's pretty useless to try to figure out who is the murderer by their volume of activity on this topic. I think we should indeed focus on the crime scene so far and not ignore the fact that Mr Pink seems to have been eaten.
The initials suspects then: a bear named spigot and Jim the Dinosaur?
 

Nevill

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So doing that doesn't makes sense for someone who says he needs to do something so he doesn't die.
You've got it backwards. I will die either way with a 90% probability. The only way I have a slim chance not to die is if we stop the murderers. Which is what I am trying to do.

Hiding under your bed and trying to stay low is death by another name, because if the killers aren't stopped, they'll come after everyone.
 
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Another thing to note: the answer may not be in their usernames but in their posting habits. If any one of them has a famous/much-quoted phrase that fits with the murder scene, for example.
 

Tigranes

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Whoa, that is actually a cool find, Jim the Dinosaur

OK, so let's start boiling things down.

As taxalot has pointed out, it's really hard to have any reliable patterns before the second death. We've used usernames, avatars, etc. to approximate, but we still don't know if the method of kill has such an obvious relationship - so it's something to go off, but not something to be sure about. (BTW, I think I can respond to Jim's accusation easily: I doubt Mr. Pink and/or the killers have bothered to run a search and see who talks about scaling to level the most, and 8 mentions in +4000 posts doesn't a meme make.) We still have to use proxies like these, so I don't begrudge Jim his guess, though.

I think one thing is that if we actually manage to accuse a killer, his response matters. While nobody likes to die, I'd think that a killer accused on day one would try pretty hard to avoid death. Sometimes you think OK, I'll die and use it to exculpate my partner, but rarely do you risk that on the first day. So, having previously helped put the spotlight on spigot, I think his blase attitude actually works in his favour for now.

I will formally accuse Excommunicator, joining Duraframe and Viata:

This is going to end in a Neville Kaiser Soze moment isn't it?

Anyway I vote for excommunicator. Something about hhis comment rubs me the wrong way.

My reasoning being:
(1) He is posting but not much, he does not offer much reasoning, and he tries to effect a nonchalant and wry demeanour. All of which to me points to a guy that has something to hide. And whereas spigot just doesn't seem overly bothered, excom to me reads more like he's trying harder to sound unbothered.
(2) By the same token, he is less useful to the innocents than someone like Nevill, who, if he is innocent, helps us with relatively clear and cogent posting.
(3) If Excom should turn out to be innocent, I think the fact that Duraframe and Viata posted in quick succession to bring Excom to 2 votes would be an interesting thing to examine. I'm aware that as the third vote I am building the bandwagon, but I think there's enough reasons overall to vote Excom, reasons I am trying to be clear about, and I do believe, as I mentioned before, we should try and avoid a no-kill day if we aren't totally unsure.
 

Nevill

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I don't mind. This suggestion has my :bro:, as long as we hang someone to get the game started.

However, if Excom turns out to be innocent, I ask the detective to check out Viata tonight.

Excommunicator, you are not a detective, are you?
 

Tigranes

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A vote needs six, so two more. And it would be good to see him appear to defend himself as well.
 

Nevill

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I'd like the priest to protect me, it'd be better. :M
You didn't give the killers enough reason to come after you. I think you are trying to divert a valuable resourse from where it's needed the most! :M

Plz heal me, bros.
 

Viata

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we should try and avoid a no-kill day if we aren't totally unsure.
I do think it's better to have 100% that someone is the killer before we all vote for him to be hanged. My reasoning is the cranberry juice joke after the criminal scene having no blood. But Grimgravy also did a joke there, so he's not completely innocent for me too.
But if you guys are voting just so we have a hanged person today, we may be ending up with 3 dead bodies tomorrow. So at least, vote in him if you have a reason that is not "well, better than no-kill day".
 

Grimgravy

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Sadly, there's no way to be 100% certain someone is the killer at this stage. As for my "joke" it's entirely plausible for a hapless pleb to notice pretty appliances before the body. The corpse is often a double take in the cops shows.

Anyway, Mr. Pink was killed. Someone must pay! Brofisted Tigranes accusation of Excommunicator Can't say the raptors are free from suspicion. They could gnaw a body as well as a bear.
 
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just to be clear I've rescinded my j'accuse concerning excommunicator and replaced it with a more measured one against tigranes, whose multi-paragraph ramblings only confirm everyone's suspicions of a madman intent on murdering us all.
 

Mr. Pink

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Are you nominating me or are you asking for whom I'm voting ? I already announced my vote. It's a bear named spigot .

Wait. Can you vote for several people ?

You can.

3 hours remain. If six votes (including the accuser) on one person are not reached on anyone, nobody will die and night will start.
 

Viata

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5 on Ex.
3 on Tigranes.
1 on Spigot.

We either hang someone or not. You guys got three hours to tell us why Tigranes is more suspicious than Excommunicator.
 

Mr. Pink

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Here is a spreadsheet I made. it's getting quite hard to track down what is a speculation and what is a vote, so for the sake of organization, starting NEXT DAY, if you'd like to make a formal accusation, say it in all caps and mention the person accused like I ACCUSE @EXAMPLE. if you,d like to vote, say it in all caps like I VOTE TO KILL @EXAMPLE.

edit: reminder that while you can only nominate one person, you may vote YES to as many as you want, (although it might make you many enemies).
 

Nevill

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Anyway I vote for excommunicator. Something about hhis comment rubs me the wrong way.
Tigranes and Viata Brofist this.
I will formally accuse Excommunicator, joining Duraframe and Viata:
This suggestion has my :bro:
Duraframe, Tigranes, Viata, Nevill, taxalot, Grimgravy. There are 6 votes already.

This brofist idea doesn't work because everyone is brofisting different posts and I can't brofist. It works better with formal votes, like:
"I accuse Excommunicator."
Also, that way the guy gets an alert.

Edit: I guess I am not the only one bothered by this. Very well, I ACCUSE Excommunicator.
 

Mr. Pink

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Anyway I vote for excommunicator. Something about hhis comment rubs me the wrong way.
Tigranes and Viata Brofist this.
I will formally accuse Excommunicator, joining Duraframe and Viata:
his suggestion has my :bro:
Duraframe, Tigranes, Viata, Nevill, taxalot, Grimgravy. There are 6 votes already.

This brofist idea doesn't work because everyone is brofisting different posts and I can't brofist. It works better with formal votes, like:
"I accuse Excommunicator."
Also, that way the guy gets an alert.

yes, this is a better system.

I will give Excommunicator one post to convince you to reconsider before he is lynched in 3.5 hours.
 

Nevill

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I will give Excommunicator one post to convince you to reconsider before he is lynched in 3.5 hours.
What's the timeframe for announcing the killer/innocent status of the hanged man and the events of the next night?

Can we learn who he was and them communicate with the priest/detective/killers before their actions resolve?
 

Mr. Pink

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I will give Excommunicator one post to convince you to reconsider before he is lynched in 3.5 hours.
What's the timeframe for announcing the killer/innocent status of the hanged man and the events of the next night?

Can we learn who he was and them communicate with the priest/detective/killers before their actions resolve?

lynching begins at the end of the day

learning the role of the hanged: immediately after the lynching

"night" ends when everyone with active roles PMs me their actions. I don't know how long it takes because timezones

if someone with an active role is lynched, they die before they can do an action
 

Nevill

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learning the role of the hanged: immediately after the lynching

"night" ends when everyone with active roles PMs me their actions. I don't know how long it takes because timezones
So technically it can resolve in 5 minutes if everyone sends their orders beforehand.

Well, then I will ask the detective to check on Viata if Excom turns out to be innocent, and I will ask the priest to heal me. :M

Maybe I will even be alive when I wake up tomorrow. :roll:
 
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