The Mysterious Mystery of the Codex Murders

[Nevill]

Well, if you want my observations...

Excommunicator, Grimgravy and taxalot are likely to be innocent. Maybe Tigranes, too.

a bear named spigot, Corporate_Jew_Master and Viata are somewhat suspicios. I'll probably be voting for one of them - I just haven't decided whom yet.

Hoaxmetal and Duraframe I have no clue about.

Jim the Dinosaur might be worth a visit from the commissar detective. If he is guilty, it would be worth it for the detective to come clean (and hope the priest heals him), as we would only have 1 killer left. If he is innocent, the detective won't need to contact us - we'll know.

Edit: I'll vote for Corporate_Jew_Master. Whenever in doubt, remember:

 

[Grimgravy]

Do we have a tally thus far?

 

[Mr. Pink]

Reminder to brofist posts that nominate who you want dead. As of now, it takes five brofists (nominee obviously counts as a yes vote) to lynch.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Do we have a tally thus far?

everyone is alive, and a bear named spigot and Corporate_Jew_Master have just been nominated for lynching. votes will be tallied in about 13 more hours.

edit: Nevill was accused by tigranes. his post can be found on page two

 

[a bear named spigot]

while nevill's suspicion is hurtful, he has refrained from trying to have my lynched. taxalot has been quick to throw others under the proverbial murder bus, and if he's going to accuse me I'm dragging him under the wheels with me. as such, I nominate taxalot.

 

[Nevill]

Reminder to brofist posts that nominate who you want dead.

Brofisting privileges, revoked.

I guess I'll have to manually.

edit: Nevill was accused by tigranes.

I think it was Viata.

Hoaxmetal Brofists this

Taxalot is quite obviously innocent, given his activity that would be very uncharacteristic for a culprit. I understand a bear named spigot's reaction, but anyone who supports it warrants a closer look.

Won't revoke my current vote, but will keep observing who is voting what.

 

[Viata]

while nevill's suspicion is hurtful, he has refrained from trying to have my lynched.

So, I take this that you guys are working together, huh?

 

[a bear named spigot]

Taxalot is quite obviously innocent, given his activity that would be very uncharacteristic for a culprit.

this just so happens to coincidentally apply to yourself, the most active poster so far, I note

what convenient reasoning

 

[Nevill]

Not only convenient, but a correct one as well.

I have two things to do in this game - post on a forum, and become a victim at night. I don't exactly treasure the last one, so I have nothing to lose from excercising the right to do the first. The detective and the priest, as well as the killers, would have more reservations about being active and attracting attention.

Of course, the killers can try to mimicry the behavior, but the more they do, the more rope they have to hang themselves with, so it's a win-win scenario.

I encourage all innocents to be more active.

 

[Duraframe300]

This is going to end in a Neville Kaiser Soze moment isn't it?

Anyway I vote for excommunicator. Something about hhis comment rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Viata]

Would anybody like a glass of cranberry juice

I accuse Excommunicator too(brofisting Duraframe300), Cranberry juice has a color similar to blood which, strangely, is lacking in the criminal scene.

 

[Tigranes]

Nevills right about one thing - the killers are likely to be posting neither the most nor the least, hoping to appear 'normal'. At this point we need to start pushing for a couple people and see how they react and how the voters react or we wont get anywhere.

Duraframe300 can you say more about why he looks suspicious?

 

[Nevill]

Excommunicator and Grimgravy were the first to post. As it is our first game, and none of us are 'genre savvy' yet, I figured the likelyhood of them being killers is low just based on that fact. The ones who post first fall under scrutiny quickly, much like the ones who are first to accuse someone (that was Tigranes).

a bear named spigot, Corporate_Jew_Master, Viata, Hoaxmetal, Duraframe300 and Jim the Dinosaur. Our suspects must be somewhere inside this group.

I have my eyes on Hoaxmetal. He had a single comment in the thread, yet he brofisted a bear named spigot's post accusing taxalot. Either he is very new to the game, or he is a lurker, which then begs a question why he is a lurker. Still, that's all very flimsy.

Paging Tigranes and taxalot to choose a common suspect and push for execution.

 

[a bear named spigot]

i'm going to bed, I look forward to finding out in the morning if I'm about to meet the noose

ps. totally going to haunt everyone if I get killed

 

[Duraframe300]

Nevills right about one thing - the killers are likely to be posting neither the most nor the least, hoping to appear 'normal'. At this point we need to start pushing for a couple people and see how they react and how the voters react or we wont get anywhere.

Duraframe300 can you say more about why he looks suspicious?

Gut feeling.

Nevill I dunno. While this holds generally true later on a common tactic is to make yourself suspicious at the beginning (possible by accusing your own partner) so that you're safe after.

 

[Duraframe300]

Nevills right about one thing - the killers are likely to be posting neither the most nor the least, hoping to appear 'normal'. At this point we need to start pushing for a couple people and see how they react and how the voters react or we wont get anywhere.

Duraframe300 can you say more about why he looks suspicious?

Gut feeling.

Nevill I dunno. While this holds generally true later on a common tactic is to make yourself suspicious at the beginning (possible by accusing your own partner) so that you're safe after.

 

[Nevill]

While this holds generally true later on a common tactic is to make yourself suspicious at the beginning (possible by accusing your own partner) so that you're safe after.

Getting meta-gamey, I do not expect that level of cunning in the first game. That would also elicit a WTF reaction from the partner, unless he is someone you knew from before. Codexers are not exactly known to be very good at communication.

What usually happens with a group of novice players is that someone accuses someone else - with no evidence, because there is none by that point - and experiences a pushback from an intended victim, with the criminals happy to hop on board of righteous indignation at violation of presumption of innocence.

Of course, this is the Codex, so there is no presumption of innocence as a concept, but this is still enough for me to rule Tigranes out.

Later on we might encounter something resembling a tactic, but I don't think most players got a good enough feel of the game so far to pull off something like this. A few veterans notwithstanding.

 

[Excommunicator]

Dec 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM - Excommunicator: I am an easy target for murderer discrimination on account of my undead appearance

#notyourundeadshield

 

[Corporate_Jew_Master]

I was playing video games so I didn't participate as much.

I'd accuse Nevill for two reasons:

1. He is way too vocal and was the first to point fingers.

2. He is a CYOA veteran and knows how this shit works. Could've easily been picked as the killer for that reason.

 

[Viata]

Excommunicator and Grimgravy were the first to post. As it is our first game, and none of us are 'genre savvy' yet, I figured the likelyhood of them being killers is low just based on that fact.

Innocent people wouldn't make a joke seconds after an assassination, it would put them on suspect list. Now, a Killer would do that as he wouldn't fear of suspicion, he could just play the innocent person after that. In fact, you are pretty good at playing someone else.

Look closer at the ones who are silent, people.

So where were you on the night of the murder?

how Orthodox of a Jew Master are you?

You've been playing the detective after Mr. Pink's assassination. Not only you accused someone without proof, you also tried to remove yourself from the suspect list without being accused of being the killer. Quite strange, if you ask me. If you were a detective, you would try to avoid acting like one so the killer doesn't kill you. You are also not an innocent, for you clearly is not stupid to put yourself on "to die" list acting like someone else. There's only one answer for you here, Nevill: you are the killer. You don't fear being killed at night, because you can't be killed while everyone else is sleeping and that's why you can act like a detective. I'm pretty sure of this, now.

 

[Nevill]

Innocent people wouldn't make a joke seconds after an assassination, it would put them on suspect list.

It's the killers who are most concerned about being on the suspect list, not the innocents.

You've been playing the detective after Mr. Pink's assassination.

If the real detective plays the detective, it's a one-way ticket to ancestors and a serious blow to the innocent side, as they no longer have a way to verify their suspicions. So someone else has to.

You are also not an innocent, for you clearly is not stupid to put yourself on "to die" list acting like someone else.

I don't see why not. The thing is, I am not very afraid of dying. It is all I can do in this game (that, and vote), and unless I do something, I will die.

It's a team game, and most of us won't see it to the end. I don't put my survival chances above everything, I care about the murderers being found and hanged.

Innocents are expendable, cruel as that may sound. That's why there are 9 of them and only 2 killers.

I may also be vying for the attention of the priest. You'll never know.

There's only one answer for you here, Nevill: you are the killer.

A very convoluted accusation attempt. Not sure if it is worth bumping you up on the suspect list, though.

 

[Excommunicator]

*sips*

I think you all make valid points. Especially Viata and Duraframe300 who both have a particularly keen eye

 

[Nevill]

I'd accuse Nevill for two reasons:

1. He is way too vocal and was the first to point fingers.

A Jew is like a Jew does.

It is factually inaccurate, since I was the 3rd to point fingers after Tigranes and taxalot. Still, I am already voting for you, so it's not like I can up the ante.

 

[Viata]

It's the killers who are most concerned about being on the suspect list, not the innocents.

That's why they would be the first to remove themselves from the suspect list. Just like you did.

If the real detective plays the detective, it's a one-way ticket to ancestors and a serious blow to the innocent side, as they no longer have a way to verify their suspicions. So someone else has to.

Which would be dead the next day. There are 2 killers, only one can be killed hanged per day. That would mean that while you find one, you'd be killed the next night for acting like a detective. If we vote for the wrong person, we got 2 bodies the next day(or is it only one body per night, btw?). By doing this, you'll die.

It is all I can do in this game (that, and vote), and unless I do something, I will die.

So doing that doesn't makes sense for someone who says he needs to do something so he doesn't die.

A very convoluted accusation attempt. Not sure if it is worth bumping you up on the suspect list, though.

Is it suspect list or dead list? As far as I know, I may be dead before you can vote against me. Unlike you, I fear death for I can only pray to be protected every night.

 

[taxalot]

The next day is where things are going to start to become more interesting. Because it takes at least two murders to form the beginning of a pattern.
Everyone here is making perfectly valid points.
-The silent ones could be murderers because they want to be forgotten (or are afraid to be killed)
-The vocal ones could be murderers trying to focus everyone's attentions on someone else.
-the middle ground could just be an elaborate strategy.

So far, it's pretty useless to try to figure out who is the murderer by their volume of activity on this topic. I think we should indeed focus on the crime scene so far and not ignore the fact that Mr Pink seems to have been eaten.