People News The New Obsidian: Josh Sawyer promoted to studio Design Director role

[DeepOcean]

I have to think really hard about people here being literally mentally ill, or just having too much free time on their hands to spend days on whining about Sawyer's promotion like an idiot kid. You guys are the little 4-5 old kids who are just standing in one place stomping with their legs on the ground and throwing a tauntrum. WAAAAAAAAAAAA SAWYER WWAAAAAAAAA BALANCE WWAAAAAA NO OBSIDIAN SHIT WATTTTAAAA.

LEAVE JOSH ALONE!

 

[A user named cat]

whereas contrary views on the likes of RPG.net are censored and result in bans.

That is fucking stupid. You don't get banned on RPG.net neither on SA for having contrary views, if you present them in an intelligent way. Maybe you are mixing having contrary views with talking about your views in a hateful, vitriolic fashion. Now that's what results in ban.

Heh, you need to learn more about those forums, especially RPG.net.

*shrugs* I've never experienced something like that on that site, I can't talk for others.

"Fucking stupid"? Enlighten yourself or you just look fucking stupid yourself.

Everyone knows what RPG.net is like, even those who haven't had the misfortune of visiting it recently, there were even threads about it here:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...nly-feminists-are-welcome-at-their-site.98410

fun mod proclamation

To get to the thing, RPGnet as a whole basically accepts that privilege is real. You are not necessarily going to get dinged for saying "lol privilege is not real," or for just strongly disliking the term, or for speaking out against ideologies you think are based on faulty notions, but Imma tell you right now that privilege has a solid as a fucking rock empirical foundation, built over hundreds of experiments, and if you don't think it is real then you're basically like a climate change denier. That is why you are going to get met with hostility even if the staff doesn't do anything to you in terms of infracting you.

[a few paragraphs later...]

If you do not have a working knowledge of what derailing and sea-lioning is, if you don't know what privilege is, if you don't grasp how subaltern narratives are excluded from the discourse and the experiences of marginalized groups are made invisible, then I heartily encourage you to LOOK UP THOSE THINGS before you post in a thread about women or sexism or GBLT issues or racism or anything like that, because YOU ARE DRAMATICALLY INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WILL GET RED TEXT IF YOU WALK IN AND START TALKING WITHOUT A GROUNDING IN THE BASIC REALITIES OF THE SITUATION.

Wait, what's "sea-lioning" and this "subaltern narrative"? Also, is we could remove the G we would be left with a BLT. Probably the best thing we can get from this situation.

While I've heard sealion used before, I'd never even heard of the second one. Just Googled and apparently "subaltern" is an archaic term used by Asian scholars, coined from a fucking communist. Go figure

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

This thread is hilarious. Overseeing design is the best possible job for Sawyer. His design principles are rock solid, it's the implementation where he doesn't always deliver. And he'll hold all the teams by the balls, meaning they'll get shit done.

 

[HatTrick]

Aw get off your high horse faggits, the Codex is every bit as much a safe space as all of those, only it's safe for a different crowd.

Safe for people who want to say what they want without getting banned for it?

Safe for people whose opinions are in line with the consensus. Just like every other safe space.

Anyone is free to post contrary opinions here though, some make an ... ahem ... shtick of it. Try that on RPG.net and see how long it takes to get banned.

Isn't this the site where people get branded with tags like the Safe Space and Cuck by the very mods themselves if they say liberal things too much?

 

[Delterius]

Thinks the Codex is terrible, but has a 1+ year old account for reading the Politics forum, eh?

Maybe they payed for forum access too.

 

[Infinitron]

Isn't this the site where people get branded with tags like the Safe Space and Cuck by the very mods themselves if they say liberal things too much?

That is not a thing that happens here. OTOH you might get a Zionist Agent tag if you're too much of a Nazi.

The closest thing I can think of is ArchAngel getting tagged as "Possibly Retarded" by JarlFrank for complaining about the violence in Hatred.

 

[Prime Junta]

Aw get off your high horse faggits, the Codex is every bit as much a safe space as all of those, only it's safe for a different crowd.

Safe for people who want to say what they want without getting banned for it?

Safe for people whose opinions are in line with the consensus. Just like every other safe space.

Anyone is free to post contrary opinions here though, some make an ... ahem ... shtick of it. Try that on RPG.net and see how long it takes to get banned.

Isn't this the site where people get branded with tags like the Safe Space and Cuck by the very mods themselves if they say liberal things too much?

Nah. You get the Safe Space tag if you have a big ignore list. The negative tags are usually bestowed for shitposting or similar (or losing Unreal Tournament matches).

I don't recall anyone ever getting tagged just for expressing an unpopular opinion (although I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the Codex, the place being what it is). Generally you have to make a pest of yourself about it.

 

[Space Insect]

People get safe spaces for having 100+ people ignored or they are Roqua and want an actual safe space.

 

[Delterius]

The Codex is so much of a one party State that people aren't being flogged for actually liking an RTwP game.

 

[Immortal]

Isn't this the site where people get branded with tags like the Safe Space and Cuck by the very mods themselves if they say liberal things too much?

That is not a thing that happens here. OTOH you might get a Zionist Agent tag if you're too much of a Nazi.

The closest thing I can think of is ArchAngel getting tagged as "Possibly Retarded" by JarlFrank for complaining about the violence in Hatred.

While that may seem a little heavy handed....
In the long term I think JarlFrank made the right call.. Arch Angel has proven several times that he deserves that tag.. and a few more.

INB4 ironic tag is added to me.

 

[Space Insect]

Also if someone is butthurt about a tag they got, they can always self eject and then come back with a new account. See the Irenaeus case.

 

[Delterius]

The Codex is such a shithole that you can't make one thread about how modern game design distances itself from the feel of the Infinity Engine games and you get a bunch of posts about how balance has nothing to do with that. I say this as an always mindful poster, by the way.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

SoD review when?

 

[HatTrick]

Nah. You get the Safe Space tag if you have a big ignore list. The negative tags are usually bestowed for shitposting or similar (or losing Unreal Tournament matches).

I don't recall anyone ever getting tagged just for expressing an unpopular opinion (although I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the Codex, the place being what it is). Generally you have to make a pest of yourself about it.

Oh, thanks for the correction.

Still, the fucking political and general boards are full of crazy Nazis stewing in their own shit.

 

[Space Insect]

Nah. You get the Safe Space tag if you have a big ignore list. The negative tags are usually bestowed for shitposting or similar (or losing Unreal Tournament matches).

I don't recall anyone ever getting tagged just for expressing an unpopular opinion (although I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the Codex, the place being what it is). Generally you have to make a pest of yourself about it.

Oh, thanks for the correction.

Still, the fucking political and general boards are full of crazy Nazis stewing in their own shit.

Which is better in your opinion, Nazis who have no control over censorship or SJWs with a solid grasp on the banhammer?

 

[HatTrick]

Nah. You get the Safe Space tag if you have a big ignore list. The negative tags are usually bestowed for shitposting or similar (or losing Unreal Tournament matches).

I don't recall anyone ever getting tagged just for expressing an unpopular opinion (although I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the Codex, the place being what it is). Generally you have to make a pest of yourself about it.

Oh, thanks for the correction.

Still, the fucking political and general boards are full of crazy Nazis stewing in their own shit.

Which is better in your opinion, Nazis who have no control over censorship or SJWs with a solid grasp on the banhammer?

Neither? Both are insufferable cliques that do their best to drive out any dissent and ultimately the banhammer is meaningless as you can just disconnect your router for a minute and get right back to posting on whatever site exiled you.

 

[Atlantico]

This thread is hilarious. Overseeing design is the best possible job for Sawyer. His design principles are rock solid, it's the implementation where he doesn't always deliver. And he'll hold all the teams by the balls, meaning they'll get shit done.

:brofist:

I agree completely. Sawyer makes perfect sense as a manager for Obsidian. He knows how to run a team, design the games and manage. They'd be stupid not to have him overseeing the teams. There's nothing worse than a manager who doesn't know how to do the work he's managing.

I don't recall anyone ever getting tagged just for expressing an unpopular opinion (although I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the Codex, the place being what it is). Generally you have to make a pest of yourself about it.

Yeah, p. much.

 

[Kev Inkline]

Also, I wish we could remove the G we would be left with a BLT. Probably the best thing we can get from this situation.

Not so if you're vegan.

 

[Kaivokz]

Good. I have complaints about PoE, but for being built from the ground up, in the amount of time they had, with the amount of money they had, and with the learning experience of crowdfunding, I'm pleased with the result.

 

[DeepOcean]

Aw get off your high horse faggits, the Codex is every bit as much a safe space as all of those, only it's safe for a different crowd.

Serious Prima Junta? Are you equating being called names by some random internet dudes you don't care about with being banned from using services because of widespread censorship and on, real life, being prosecuted, sent on jail or lose your job for "racism"? What is the opressive hivemind going to do to you? Call you names? Be mean? There are laws on my country that you can go to jail for virtual "racism", Prima Junta and the definition of racism is getting even more and more subjective.

If someone on your life call you names, are you going to cry on the couch for oppresion? I hope you don't, there are better things to do.

 

[Suicidal]

Aw get off your high horse faggits, the Codex is every bit as much a safe space as all of those, only it's safe for a different crowd.

Safe for people who want to say what they want without getting banned for it?

Safe for people whose opinions are in line with the consensus. Just like every other safe space.

I disagree.

The Codex may be a circlejerk sometimes, but it's definitely not a "safe space" because here the admins do not ban or forcefully silence people in order to shelter others from their viewpoints, which is what defines a safe space.

No matter what opinion you hold, you can always say it out loud without fear of being banned. People may disagree. People may call you names. People may ignore you (which is the most "safe space" feature of the codex but it's only on an individual level), but you will always be heard. On some other forums you can really get banned for disagreeing with a moderator, for example. Here the most you can get for that is a dumbfuck or some other silly tag that does not impair your posting abilities. It's really hard to get banned on the codex - you have to either spam stupid shit non stop, post nsfw pics without nsfw tags or make one of those stupid "leaving forever" threads.

TL;DR - codex has elements of a circlejerk, but it's definitely not a safe space.

 

[Thonius]

Hell yeah! I love Codex because its "toxic". Its got Ye olde Ethernet feel, before things like sjw, pc and fascist modders occupied whole Ethernet.
Whole safe space concept is pretty unrealistic, how could you respect everyone? You cannot respect retard that shits himself and Einstein at the same time, or respect Jews and Nazi. Dex is not a safe space( and its not trying to be) its a more like ancient roman or greek forum.

 

[Fairfax]

So Sawyer going wild almost led Obsidian to bankruptcy?

Its cancellation had nothing to do with the state of the project.

How so? According to Feargus, Microsoft had a change of heart in a matter of weeks. Sounds like they saw a new build and weren't happy with it, because what else could've changed so thing so quickly?
The whole context doesn't support this notion either. Microsoft still doesn't have an exclusive RPG and they funded a lot of shitty exclusives that bombed. Right after Skyrim breaking records in the genre, The Witcher 2, and Obsidian itself making a huge hit, they decided it was better to have no RPG than fund Stormlands?

That actually points more to it having nothing to do with the state of the project, but Microsoft's market research deciding against pushing rpgs to the point of cutting their losses.

They already got burnt with jrpgs on XBOX360 after all.

Aye, they got burned with JRPGs, which are a different beast, but not with the (few) WRPGs. Also, it sounds weird that they'd do that market research several months into the game's development. Could've been a focus group with stuff from the game or something similar, though.
The market for an Xbox One AAA RPG was without competition for an entire year, until DA:I came out in Nov 2014. A huge audience without a single RPG to purchase for a new console. It was a great opportunity, unless the game itself wasn't that interesting...

It's fucking near impossible to have a discussion about anything related to Josh for example without having it immediately buried under a ton of monkey-shit.

No, it isn't?

You're going to end up with only a few people but even when it comes to Josh there are all sorts of opinions here.

And if you can't take the heat, grow some fucking skin.

BAM

 

[Immortal]

Aw get off your high horse faggits, the Codex is every bit as much a safe space as all of those, only it's safe for a different crowd.

Safe for people who want to say what they want without getting banned for it?

Safe for people whose opinions are in line with the consensus. Just like every other safe space.

There is no opinion on this forum that is universally agreed on.

Even things like SoD or GG that you would normally think is just an accepted circle jerk on the dex have huge dissenters. Infinitron was constantly poopooing the thread every 3 pages, many people came out saying it was a stupid thing to argue about which then rightly lead to another thread that was made which banned all bitching about trannies.

There you go. Two large demographics creating two separate threads to discuss the game in the way they want.
Even the GamerGate thread has a mirror opposite in GW called "The Best Thread Ever (NO SJW SHIT)" Which is basically a thread for internet happenings without the SJW bullshit around it.

These things don't exist in a safe space. Period.

Correct me if I am wrong but honestly I am getting some deja vu here..
You once again started trying to talk about your personal beliefs in SoD.. to which everyone verbally spanked you, then you pretended to be trolling until we arrive here.. another prime junta melt down.

It's fucking near impossible to have a discussion about anything related to Josh for example without having it immediately buried under a ton of monkey-shit.

No, it isn't?

You're going to end up with only a few people but even when it comes to Josh there are all sorts of opinions here.

And if you can't take the heat, grow some fucking skin.

When a chill, stick to the facts, sawyer fanboy like Duraframe is calling you a pussy.. it's time to reassess life.

 

[thesheeep]

Goodbye, interesting character systems!