The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[eXalted]

So is this a game of "let's all pretend that we don't play this game"?

 

[frajaq]

So is this a game of "let's all pretend that we don't play this game"?

have to play it thoroughly to really hate it

 

[Vorark]

I hadn't noticed this while playing, but most of the NPCs in a prominent position are women. And when they are men, they are often incompetent, or of questionable character. After you see this, it's practically impossible to unsee, because it's very explicit. I can't say that this was a big problem for me because, as I said, I hadn't noticed it when I was playing, it wasn't something that I consciously paid attention to. But on the other hand, looking back, it's really impossible not to notice that, yes, there is an agenda behind these choices, it's too obvious to be by chance.

Tyranny was a bit like that, although I remember there were decent male characters too. I'm trying to remember if Pillows had anything similar yet every single time I think of that game my mind draws a blank.

 

[JDR13]

So is this a game of "let's all pretend that we don't play this game"?

You didn't get the memo? The more you hate on Obsidian, the cooler you are.

 

[Nano]

You didn't get the memo? The more you hate on Obsidian, the cooler you are.

Hating on Obsidian isn't fun for me. Despite their games getting increasingly worse, I'm still an kind of an Obsidian fanboy at heart, and it hasn't sunk in for me yet that Obsidian will probably never again develop anything nearly as good as their pre-Dungeon Siege 3 games.

 

[Yosharian]

Sci-fi is a creatively bankrupt setting for all media.

Up yours, birdman~

Yeah I don't know what the hell I was saying last night. I browned out. Most likely was trying to start shit.

Browned out, it's that some sort of scatological reference?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Hating on Obsidian isn't fun for me. Despite their games getting increasingly worse

TBH I think TOW is way better or at least way interesting than Deadfire so far. Not a high bar for you guys i know

 

[LESS T_T]

On Youtube:

 

[HarveyBirdman]

Sci-fi is a creatively bankrupt setting for all media.

Up yours, birdman~

Yeah I don't know what the hell I was saying last night. I browned out. Most likely was trying to start shit.

Browned out, it's that some sort of scatological reference?

 

[JDR13]

You didn't get the memo? The more you hate on Obsidian, the cooler you are.

Hating on Obsidian isn't fun for me. Despite their games getting increasingly worse, I'm still an kind of an Obsidian fanboy at heart, and it hasn't sunk in for me yet that Obsidian will probably never again develop anything nearly as good as their pre-Dungeon Siege 3 games.

Personally, I always thought much of their older stuff was a little overrated. FO: NV was pure incline, but NWN 2 was too clunky for me, and I thought Alpha Protocol was awful.

 

[Nano]

Personally, I always thought much of their older stuff was a little overrated. FO: NV was pure incline, but NWN 2 was too clunky for me, and I thought Alpha Protocol was awful.

And Alpha Protocol is one of my all-time favorite games. That's just my opinion, though.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You didn't get the memo? The more you hate on Obsidian, the cooler you are.

Hating on Obsidian isn't fun for me. Despite their games getting increasingly worse, I'm still an kind of an Obsidian fanboy at heart, and it hasn't sunk in for me yet that Obsidian will probably never again develop anything nearly as good as their pre-Dungeon Siege 3 games.

They've made worse e.g., NWN2(OC), DS3. I really can't think of a single redeeming thing about those, at least TOW's reactivity is very notable.
Also, they worked on an MMORPG that absolutely everyone forgot about.

 

[Nano]

They've made worse e.g., NWN2(OC),

Basically a fluke, as was proven with Mask of the Betrayer coming out a year later.

DS3
Also, they worked on an MMORPG that absolutely everyone forgot about.

I said pre-DS3. :D Armored Warfare was just an MMO, not RPG. I have no interest in tank MMOs, but from what I understand the people who do play those games agreed that Obsidian's version of it was good, before the publisher took control over development and started ruining it (at least that's what I gathered from the backlash at the time when it happened).

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Armored Warfare was just an MMO, not RPG.

That's the second MMO they worked on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyforge

 

[JDR13]

Personally, I always thought much of their older stuff was a little overrated. FO: NV was pure incline, but NWN 2 was too clunky for me, and I thought Alpha Protocol was awful.

And Alpha Protocol is one of my all-time favorite games. That's just my opinion, though.

Yeah, AP is one of those games where most people either love it or hate it.

I think a lot of it has to do with the setting. For me, the realistic modern-day setting holds zero appeal. I didn't care for the gameplay either though.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Personally, I always thought much of their older stuff was a little overrated. FO: NV was pure incline, but NWN 2 was too clunky for me, and I thought Alpha Protocol was awful.

And Alpha Protocol is one of my all-time favorite games. That's just my opinion, though.

Yeah, AP is one of those games where most people either love it or hate it.

I think a lot of it has to do with the setting. For me, the realistic modern-day setting holds zero appeal. I didn't care for the gameplay either though.

I've tried to play it twice and both times ended up quitting due to bugs. I might have liked it if it was less buggy.

 

[Nano]

Armored Warfare was just an MMO, not RPG.

That's the second MMO they worked on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyforge

I'm pretty sure only about 5 Obsidian employees worked on it, and not for very long either.

 

[oregano12]

Well, I tried, but I failed. Unistalled the game 16 hours in, halfway into Monarch and after visiting Cila and Byzantium. I honestly don't know what's my final verdict on this game, I don't like it but I definitely don't hate it either and would actually still recommend it to New Vegas fans who are desperate to scratch that itch. Maybe I'm just not its intended audience? I'm happy Microsoft and Epic money hat this game into existence, I'm happy Obsidian got to make the game they wanted, I'm happy Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky had a chance to make the spiritual sucessor to Fallout after so many years. Its just that the game itself doesn't make me feel anything. Everything in Outer Worlds is so safe and by the numbers that you can't feel a connection with anything that its happening.

 

[hexer]

"The story behind Parvati, the internet’s favorite Outer Worlds companion" - interview with Kate Dollarhyde.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/am...-outer-worlds-parvati-companion-quest-writers

There is a kind of science fiction right now that I feel is best exemplified by The Expanse. It’s this portrayal of a future where there is not just a male, white, cisgender future for our society. It is a spectrum of colors, a spectrum of experiences, the spectrum of languages, a spectrum of sexual identification, and of sexuality. How important was it for you as a writer to really look at the spectrum of human experience and project it forward into the future of science fiction?

It was hugely important and I honestly wish we could do more of it if we had more time. I’d write a million more words of unique people living their lives. Maybe in future projects I’ll get a chance to do that. But it’s not just representing a hopeful world, or a world that we want to see. It’s, from my point of view, representing the world as it currently is. There are women in positions of power. There are people of color doing all kinds of jobs. There are queer people in every corner and class of the world. And so I want the world of the future to reflect the world of the now. And that means reflecting our current reality.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

writers: it's a dystopian future where people are treated as commodities by mega-corporations and in general their life sucks
also writers: "But it’s not just representing a hopeful world, or a world that we want to see. It’s, from my point of view, representing the world as it currently is. There are women in positions of power. There are people of color doing all kinds of jobs. There are queer people in every corner and class of the world. And so I want the world of the future to reflect the world of the now. And that means reflecting our current reality."

 

[Heroic Liberator]

"The story behind Parvati, the internet’s favorite Outer Worlds companion" - interview with Kate Dollarhyde.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/am...-outer-worlds-parvati-companion-quest-writers

There is a kind of science fiction right now that I feel is best exemplified by The Expanse. It’s this portrayal of a future where there is not just a male, white, cisgender future for our society. It is a spectrum of colors, a spectrum of experiences, the spectrum of languages, a spectrum of sexual identification, and of sexuality. How important was it for you as a writer to really look at the spectrum of human experience and project it forward into the future of science fiction?

It was hugely important and I honestly wish we could do more of it if we had more time. I’d write a million more words of unique people living their lives. Maybe in future projects I’ll get a chance to do that. But it’s not just representing a hopeful world, or a world that we want to see. It’s, from my point of view, representing the world as it currently is. There are women in positions of power. There are people of color doing all kinds of jobs. There are queer people in every corner and class of the world. And so I want the world of the future to reflect the world of the now. And that means reflecting our current reality.

I'll stick to my Wh40k, thank you. Womyn in the Sororitas and (pseudo)negroes in the Salamanders I can accept.

 

[Papa Môlé]

Why do you idiots think that what you can accept matters anymore?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Why do you idiots think that what you can accept matters anymore?

It certainly does not since I am clearly not part of their target audience.

 

[Ezeekiel]

Personally, I always thought much of their older stuff was a little overrated. FO: NV was pure incline, but NWN 2 was too clunky for me, and I thought Alpha Protocol was awful.

And Alpha Protocol is one of my all-time favorite games. That's just my opinion, though.

If the mechanics were better and the actual levels and enemies less... console-y, then it'd be a really great game all-around imo.
Typical old-school Obsidian stuff, though. Fun story/characters and such, but the *game* parts aren't up to snuff.
Flawed gem, but pretty darn flawed unfortunately.
I liked it anyway.

It's one of those games which deserves a good remake by a more technically robust studio... If only there was one.

 

[Ezeekiel]

Parvati is the internet favorite companion because:
All the companions are boring as fuck, but Parvati is the only female companion that can be visually identified as a (gamebryo-esque potato-replica of a) human female.