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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

Gordian Nutt

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Fargo is most likely bound by contract to stay there for a few years for management transition and such stuff.

Agree with this, probably at least 3 years

Not saying he would retire after this or leave, but it would be not smart of Microsoft to buy a studio and not contractually keep the main people chained there or it looks bad
 

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Fargo is most likely bound by contract to stay there for a few years for management transition and such stuff.

Agree with this, probably at least 3 years

Not saying he would retire after this or leave, but it would be not smart of Microsoft to buy a studio and not contractually keep the main people chained there or it looks bad

Fargo is also very ambitious and cares about his legacy. He is not retiring before they release the Chad Moore & Jason Anderson project. Fargo hasn't released a big game budget in ages and now he has one in the works after all these years.
 

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Fargo is also very ambitious and cares about his legacy. He is not retiring before they release the Chad Moore & Jason Anderson project. Fargo hasn't released a big game budget in ages and now he has one in the works after all these years.

He sounded pretty ready to retire before Microsoft cash came in

I agree it is all changed now which could be a bad thing based on how the other ex-Troika devs made Outer Worlds and Moore and Anderson are not even the same level as Boyarsky and Cain (Moore was at helm for Wildstar)
 

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I personally stopped giving a shit about who at which level was in the past, especially after Outer Worlds.
 
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does anyone still have the list of what inspired them? Im looking for some fun space adventure written by dead people
 

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does anyone still have the list of what inspired them? Im looking for some fun space adventure written by dead people
You are giving too much credit to Obsidian writers. Those people need to be told what movie/tv-show to watch (by their team lead) to get properly "inspired" for their creative output.

Afaik Brazil (1985) and Whedon's Firefly were their inspirations.
 
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What were your influences for this game?

Firefly and Futurama. I’ve been watching Futurama a lot again lately and the branding in our game is very much influenced by it. We used to be big Simpsons fans and there’s a couple prominent Easter eggs in Fallout that are from the Simpsons. On the writing side, besides Firefly, I had my writers look at things like Wes Anderson, the Coen Brothers, definitely Deadwood and True Grit. Obviously, we didn’t want to go that far, but we really wanted some of that flavor in there. I was also pushing them to read some early Vonnegut.

When work on The Outer Worlds was just getting started, the pair peppered new hires with music, TV shows, and movies to serve as reference material. On the PAX East Outer Worlds panel, senior narrative designer Megan Starks said she wondered what she was getting into when Boyarsky recommended she watch Brazil, the mindbending dystopian film by Terry Gilliam. She tells me after the panel, "I think that movie was something that Tim and Leonard really liked for the dark humor, and just the crazy experience of what this alternate society is like."

When I ask Cain about his reasoning for asking the team to watch Brazil, he admits that his own contribution mostly skews toward Futurama. But there's one element of Brazil that definitely jumps out at him. "One thing we like about it is that it's a dystopia that tries to put this veneer of everything being fine, and that you should just do your job." He refers to the scene where Ida Lowry, mother to protagonist Sam Lowry, goes on eating even after a bomb explodes in a restaurant. "All this terrible stuff was happening and she didn't care," Cain says.

Tim Cain: For me, it was Firefly and Futurama. The former for its space western feel, and the latter for its humor and wacky science.

Leonard Boyarsky: Definitely Firefly and Futurama for the reasons Tim mentioned. I’d have to add True Grit and Deadwood for their use of language and Brazil for its bureaucracy-from-hell humor.

There's no doubt that Boyarsky in particular spends a lot of time thinking about themes and subject matter, and when asked about pop-cultural inspirations The Simpsons, Firefly, Rick & Morty, and Futurama are mentioned almost instantly. When it comes to philosophical inspirations they are more uncertain about what isms apply to The Outer Worlds, but after a healthy amount of consideration, existentialism is mentioned. As Boyarsky says with more than a hint of irony: "If we're being pretentious, we can probably trace it back to Sartre".
 
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"One thing we like about it is that it's a dystopia that tries to put this veneer of everything being fine, and that you should just do your job." He refers to the scene where Ida Lowry, mother to protagonist Sam Lowry, goes on eating even after a bomb explodes in a restaurant. "All this terrible stuff was happening and she didn't care," Cain says.
Cain says, when questioned by the rest of the development team on why the AI is so terrible.
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?

I'd wait until the "Non-Mandatory Corporate-Sponsored Bundle" on GOG drops its base price and then wait for at least a -75% sale.
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?
I'd wait for some kind of final edition and the 75% off discount. If it happens, it will come out not before the second DLC (scheduled for this year).

There is a also a possibility for it to be in the Humble Choice, since another game Humankind Odyssey is currently there and it's the same publisher.
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?
I actually can't see myself recommending this game if it was free.

I effectively got it for $1 (because of Gamepass on PC) and I had to force myself to finish it.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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I still can't download it. I need to steal some wifi but town us closed down. Fuck you covid! Or is covid saving my soul from this game. Its kept CP2077 & Disco & BG3 away as well.

Time to load up Zork 1
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?

Nah, not worth it. I played it for $1 on game pass and it was ok for that price, but I wouldn't pay much more (up to $5 I think).
 
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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?
I actually can't see myself recommending this game if it was free.

I effectively got it for $1 (because of Gamepass on PC) and I had to force myself to finish it.
i got it literally for free and i had to force myself not to vomit. stay away from this crap, even cyberspunk is better. enough said.
 

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This stinker is on sale for $30. What's the consensus on it? What price point is it worth getting? 30, 20, less? Are any of the expansions worth a play?

If you don't expect New Vegas because it's a much smaller game in scope and depth... and if you are okay with it having zero challenge whatsoever after level 3 or so... and if you don't get butthurt over some California politics... then it's worth a playthrough. It's the definition of a mediocre game, but if you love games of its ilk and wish to play a new one because they don't come out every day, you'll probably get some enjoyment out of it. DLC is some of the better stuff in the game.
 

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BUT also some of the worst as well.

Not saying you're wrong just curious what you're referring to.
The dissonance between player choices and the story is at its lowest on the DLC. Not even the writers could come up with an excuse for your character to choose the "bad" side when someone directly asks you why you would even consider it.
 

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