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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

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I just realized I actually managed to play Fallout 4 longer than this.
Must be because at least the combat is mildly entertaining there and some of the theme park locations are decent.
 

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Name one old developer that managed to make a comeback and deliver a great game instead of sorrow and pity. There might be one... I just can't remember.
Koji Igarashi made a good SotN successor (as far as i know, haven't played it yet).
 

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Name one old developer that managed to make a comeback and deliver a great game instead of sorrow and pity. There might be one... I just can't remember.

I don't know how different the developer roster was, but many people consider Resident Evil 7 and RE2 Remake to be a great recovery after the shit of RE5 and 6.
 
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TheDiceMustRoll

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Name one old developer that managed to make a comeback and deliver a great game instead of sorrow and pity. There might be one... I just can't remember.

I don't know how different the developer roster was, but many people consider Resident Evil 7 and RE2 Remake to be a great recovery after the shit of RE5 and 6.

DOOM 2016 is another. Mostly because ID hadn't made much of any value, pretty but boring games. DOOM also looked not great, I remember codexers here groaning at the canned animation for the chainsaw and then suddenly it was wickedsick
 

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Edit: it happens to me with porn stars, actors, writers, directors, etc. The more I learn about people the less I like them, and the less I enjoy their work.

I totally get you. I am also been having this experience for at least the last fifteen years, that all the creative persons, actors, etc that I used to admire and look up to turned out to be such disappointments.
Not always when they started. Sometimes from the interviews and articles they seemed to be the people I thought them to after I discovered their creations or works, but then this moment happens in which they do a 180 degree or perhaps just a 90 degree shift and can become absolute A#####, become nasty towards their fans, completely stuck up, act as if those who do not share their viewpoint or have not accomplished anything on their level, or simply people that don't meet their standards are beneath them.
And it makes me wonder what the hell happened? Were they always like this but did they mask it very cleverly, have they grown arrogant or bitter? Have they grown detached and non caring?

In the end though some of it may still lay with us, the people or fans who liked what they did and praised them and developed an image of them.
Seeing this behavior though from for example game designers has cured me of "hero worship" though. Whenever I see the name of a designer whose work I used to like it does not automatically make me think any more "Wow, whatever this project is that they are announcing, it must be great."

If anything it only makes me wish that I become a creative person myself, make or do things that I enjoy. Then I only have to live up to my own standard.
 
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Edit: it happens to me with porn stars, actors, writers, directors, etc. The more I learn about people the less I like them, and the less I enjoy their work.

I totally get you. I am also been having this experience for at least the last fifteen years, that all the creative persons, actors, etc that I used to admire and look up to turned out to be such disappointments.
Not always when they started. Sometimes from the interviews and articles they seemed to be the people I thought them to after I discovered their creations or works, but then this moment happens in which they do a 180 degree or perhaps just a 90 degree shift and can become absolute A#####, become nasty towards their fans, completely stuck up, act as if those who do not share their viewpoint or have not accomplished anything on their level, or simply people that don't meet their standards are beneath them.
And it makes me wonder what the hell happened? Were they always like this but did they mask it very cleverly, have they grown arrogant or bitter? Have they grown detached and non caring?

In the end though some of it may still lay with us, the people or fans who liked what they did and praised them and developed an image of them.
Seeing this behavior though from for example game designers has cured me of "hero worship" though. Whenever I see the name of a designer whose work I used to like it does not automatically make me think any more "Wow, whatever this project is that they are announcing, it must be great."

If anything it only makes me wish that I become a creative person of my own, make or do things that I enjoy. Then I only have to live up to my own standard.

It all pretty much broke apart in 2014 and has been steaming since
 

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This happens a lot in this day and age, when homosexuals try to score some pitypoints. They tell stories about being harassed online, while the truth is, most people doesn't give a fuck about their orientation.

It's human nature. Negative comments, especially those attacking who you are as a person will get to you and stick in your mind better than then "I don't care about his private life" comments. Especially if you've had to listen to such negative comments for most of your life. I bet it even stings a bit worse if the person considers the attack coming from a community he was a part of (gaming, codex).

Even this comment can be seen as quite negative "oh them gay people, always scoring for pitypoints" Some might consider that as being harassed online.

While Outer Worlds was a huge disappointment, it's as disappointing that Cain is retiring. He seemed really passionate about the game and I would like to see what he could do without having to cut content and with more experienced gameplay programmers.
 

DalekFlay

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People don't want others to be ambivalent about them, or to ignore them. They want to feel validated and like they're accepted and appreciated. As you say, human nature.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Did those guys even contribute anything tangible to that game? I wouldn't be surprised if the extent of their contribution was acting smartass on daily stand ups. The entire thing screams modern obsidian - the dialogue, the subhuman character design, the completely meaningless "checks" every second sentence. Although, come to think of it, wasn't one of them the guy who was preaching about replacing stats with geometrical shapes (probably discovered that people like FM or something).
 
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Edit: it happens to me with porn stars, actors, writers, directors, etc. The more I learn about people the less I like them, and the less I enjoy their work.

Really hard for me to enjoy porn lately after learning most of the girls in the industry suck cock for living :(
 

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DOOM 2016 is another.

I disagree. The original DOOM was a mindless but fun shooter! In DOOM 2016 and even more in DOOM Eternal you constantly have to kill enemies for inventory management though which takes a lot of fun out of it. Like you have to leave zombies alive, because you will need to kill them latter for ammo. This is actually more inventory management than one needs in The Outer Worlds where you always have thousands of anything all the time! Both games would be better with the system of the other ;)...
 

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DOOM 2016 is another.

I disagree. The original DOOM was a mindless but fun shooter! In DOOM 2016 and even more in DOOM Eternal you constantly have to kill enemies for inventory management though which takes a lot of fun out of it. Like you have to leave zombies alive, because you will need to kill them latter for ammo. This is actually more inventory management than one needs in The Outer Worlds where you always have thousands of anything all the time! Both games would be better with the system of the other ;)...
In Eternal? No you dont, the fodder zombies constantly respawn just in case you need health or ammo.
 

Wesp5

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In Eternal? No you dont, the fodder zombies constantly respawn just in case you need health or ammo.

Still it's all a balancing act of killing for health, armor and ammo as all of these vanish after a time. In the original game you killed for fun ;)!
 
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i absolutely loved this game, it's either my GOTY or 2nd place behind the resident evil 2 remake.
What exactly did you enjoy so much about it? Genuinely curious as most parts of the game seemed really lackluster to me, even though I have to admit that the atmosphere and the companions evoked my Firefly nostalgia.
This post is old as shit, but I mostly enjoyed the setting and I thought the characters were really cool.

There's other reasons but I have problem articulating what I like about media cause it's usually very "feel" oriented for me.

Granted I didn't play many games, but out of the games I played in 2019 it was one of my favorites.
 
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Gordian Nutt

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Well some people claim on this thread that he is retiring. No idea if it is true or not. Seems quite young to retire if you ask me.

Tim Cain is old but so is Fargo

If Microsoft did not buy out his retirement, I think Fargo would be gone too
 

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Fargo is most likely bound by contract to stay there for a few years for management transition and such stuff.
 

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