DeepOcean
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This reminds me of you walking on a path made of neurons seeing the memories of the dude who killed your wife on Fallout 4.
Yeah, Obsidian is on Fallout 4 levels of retardation but people are coping hard thinking Microsoft money will solve their problems of being filled with has beens that just wanna retirement and danger hair millenial women.
Comparing games that are not direct sequels is pretty retarded. If anything,tow should be compared to Arcanum since it was made pretty much by the same guys/leads.Reposting (with edits):
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:16 PM - @Infinitron: TOW is mediocre but the people saying the reason is that the setting and theme are inherently boring are getting it wrong imo, the problem is there's just not enough there besides that
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:18 PM - @Infinitron: I think for example, that when people on this forum compare TOW and New Vegas, their analysis usually doesn't go much further than "FONV writing gud, TOW writing bad"
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:18 PM - @Infinitron: When there's so much more to it
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:19 PM - @Infinitron: The world design, the way factions and quests are laid out in the world
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:20 PM - @Infinitron: The main plot progression, item progression
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:20 PM - @Infinitron: and the kinds of sidequests you actually get to do
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:21 PM - @Infinitron: New Vegas - Elaborate set-piece scenarios where the world state is changed (NCR recapturing prison etc) within the first few hours of the game
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:21 PM - @Infinitron: TOW - bog-standard dungeon crawls and fetch quests, simplistic faction design
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:24 PM - @Infinitron: If you look just at the writing, I think most characters in New Vegas could actually easily have been written by the TOW writers (though it has a few standouts that TOW lacks)
other than item progression, all of this boils down to 'TOW writing bad, FONV writing gud' you tardMar 17, 2021 at 1:18 PM - @Infinitron: I think for example, that when people on this forum compare TOW and New Vegas, their analysis usually doesn't go much further than "FONV writing gud, TOW writing bad"
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:18 PM - @Infinitron: When there's so much more to it
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:19 PM - @Infinitron: The world design, the way factions and quests are laid out in the world
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:20 PM - @Infinitron: The main plot progression, item progression
Mar 17, 2021 at 1:20 PM - @Infinitron: and the kinds of sidequests you actually get to do
Well you were almost right.if you see a white male with blond hair and blue eyes, he's the killer
I must admit, it was very difficult for me to guess that it would be "white man with uniquely white features is bad"Well you were almost right.
A world where capitalism is evil could be done a lot better if it have a serious tone.
A world where capitalism is evil could be done a lot better if it have a serious tone.
See Cyberpunk 2077...
Well you were almost right...
When I think of how Tim & Co are going to embarrass themselves with their next game... Well, it is not the most pleasant thoughtJust close the thread and let it die in peace.
Embarrassed?When I think of how Tim & Co are going to embarrass themselves with their next game... Well, it is not the most pleasant thoughtJust close the thread and let it die in peace.
Does any of the oldtimers works on that Skyshit clone?
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I think Leonard is practicing stoicism, always have extremely low expectations, this way, even the most inane things will appear wonderful.Leonard is gleeful at the reception of outer worlds.It is i probably his most beloved game he ever worked on.
Humm... this is a massive pile of shit.
Fanboy expectation: But... but... if they invest more money in it, it wont be a massive pile of shit this time.
Happens all the time: Hey guise, you gave us more money for our previous pile of shit, so, of course, you wanna MORE of the pile of shit.
So that far-fetched to assume they could do more with a bigger budget.
So that far-fetched to assume they could do more with a bigger budget.
I don't think the whole corporations-and-all-men-are-stupid writing would be different with a bigger budget. Or even prettier facial animations and hair...
Honestly, they seem to have forgotten who their base is (white western males)... The premise had some promise, at least as far as spoofing corporatism run amuck. But as you say, the all/most men stupid and/or evil and womyn smart and/or good was a bit much - bordering bewteen cuck simulator and post modern feminist fanfic.
someone link the hzd quest making fun of aloyHonestly, they seem to have forgotten who their base is (white western males)... The premise had some promise, at least as far as spoofing corporatism run amuck. But as you say, the all/most men stupid and/or evil and womyn smart and/or good was a bit much - bordering bewteen cuck simulator and post modern feminist fanfic.
Given what a huge success Horizon Zero Dawn was, most folks will put up with this stuff if they like the game.