The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Jarpie]

It's a shame because she's otherwise pretty well written.

I'm really curious about this statement because... well I know I've been skimming this, but I honestly don't get her as being written at all. She's this uncertain bubbly teenager type when you first meet her (despite being 28, apparently), and she sticks with the uncertain bubbly teenager schtick all through. So far she's ventured one or two opinions siding with one faction or another. But I really get no sense whatsoever of her personality, temperament, character, past history, or anything else, other than "vapid" anyway.

The same is true for all of them except Vicar Max who's just kind of a silly jackass instead. The only character in the entire game so far that has the makings of a personality is the mad scientist (forget his name... Welles?) that defrosts you in the start, at least he's somewhat funny in a dad-joke kind of way. Everybody else is, as I said earlier, Pismo Beach on their very first larp.

It's almost like she was written by someone who's in their late 20s/early 30s who's mentally stuck in their teens.

 

[fantadomat]

less mechanically painful than New Vegas.

I disagree, in NV you have shit combat unless you pump up your weapon skills. Once you get the skills up,the combat is decent. Here it is just bland.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Really strange. Parvati reacts right if you kill Reed or Junlei.

Yeah, she "reacts" after firing on them herself. And each time you can just convince her that you did the right thing and she'll follow. She STILL wants to stick to you even though you are so obviously a fucking maniac. She outright calls you a psychopath with a violent streak beforehand too. They are all like that to varying extents. I mean, Privati is willing to lock herself with you, A MURDERER WHO'D KILL ALMOST ANYONE ON FIRST CONTACT, in a metal prison... in fucking space. Wow, yeah she reacts, AWESOME REACTIONS.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Really strange. Parvati reacts right if you kill Reed or Junlei.

Yeah, she "reacts" after firing on them herself. And each time you can just convince her that you did the right thing and she'll follow. She STILL wants to stick to you even though you are so obviously a fucking maniac. She outright calls you a psychopath with a violent streak beforehand too. They are all like that to varying extents. I mean, Privati is willing to lock herself with you, A MURDERER WHO'D KILL ALMOST ANYONE ON FIRST CONTACT, in a metal prison... in fucking space. Wow, yeah she reacts, AWESOME REACTIONS.

Considering she's autistic, none of this seems that strange.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As for Parvati, have you folks ever sailed on a Firefly?

She is bit by bit copy of Kaylee from Firefly minus the occasional lewdness. Even the voice actor hits a similar cadence. No need to overanalyze this character further.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Finished second playthrough - kill everyone.
It was handled very poorly by the game, especially the ending. Didn't change much from peaceful playthrough..
This game makes me want to reaply Fallout: New Vegas. Even Fallout 4... Exploration was done quite poorly.

 

[toro]

She's this uncertain bubbly teenager type when you first meet her (despite being 28, apparently), and she sticks with the uncertain bubbly teenager schtick all through.

most 28 year old women are like this these days

if you are in the friendzone otherwise they are complete sluts ... gurgling piss and shit.

Spoiler

that's what I've heard

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Considering she's autistic, none of this seems that strange.

Dunno about autistic, but a 28 year old teenager who really like ships is... something. Anyways, I did think about this myself, and I would be willing to be understanding if she was intentionally written as an autistic character - but she's not. Unless you want to tell me that they are all purposefully written with autism in mind.

 

[fantadomat]

As for Parvati, have you folks ever sailed on a Firefly?

She is bit by bit copy of Kaylee from Firefly minus the occasional lewdness. No need to overanalyze this character further.

I don't remember the episode of firefly where you had to run around 3 planets to buy generic garbage for her lesbian date.

 

[Junmarko]

Only problem is that given who was in the kitchen, I expected an actual meal.

But 1,000,000 words in a crpg is equivilant to a burnt meal. Lol.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As for Parvati, have you folks ever sailed on a Firefly?

She is bit by bit copy of Kaylee from Firefly minus the occasional lewdness. No need to overanalyze this character further.

I don't remember the episode of firefly where you had to run around 3 planets to buy generic garbage for her lesbian date.

Had to? You didn't have to run around planets, you chose what quests to finish. As it happens, it's scientifically proven that low-T individuals are willing to do stupidest shit if pretty lady asks them nicely.

 

[mondblut]

Finally got to the good part of the game.

You should play match-3 with these 100500 shortcuts.

What? I don't understand what you are saying mate. What is match3 and what is 100500?

 

[cvv]

The fact ya'll fuckers aren't seeing anything wrong with a pretty girl being a mechanic is another proof you've been sitting in that pot with that hot soy juice for too damn long. How many female mechanics, repairmen or maintenance workers have you seen IRL?

I'm 35, I've gone through all walks of life and I've seen precisely zero. Not even in our grorious commie past when it was a bit more normal seeing women doing traditionally male jobs. Not even the Party forced them into servicing machines.

And yet Kwan entertainment is full of this idiotic archetype - a bubbly, pretty girl being all passionate about tinkering and repairing shit. Fucking Kaylee, Rey from Shit Wars, now Parvati and loads more. Breaking news - bubbly pretty girls are too busy reading Cosmopolitan, doing their make-up and dating chads to waste their time playing with greasy cogs.

"Baaaah, I haaaaven't seeen any SJW inphluenze in this gaaaame baaaah." Even the Codex is getting soyized.

 

[Dexter]

Yeah, it might not be on F4 boss / The Division grade, but cRPG mechanics just go bad with shooting mechanics IMO, and it shows. Living organisms go down because of internal organ failure not some fucked up health bar, and nowadays, weirdly enough, decent shooters can imitate that better with their dispensable enemies, than shooter RPGs hard bound to their stat vs. damage systems.

Destiny 2 manages this rather well, although it's more on the Shooter side of things.

I can't wait for TOW to be released on Steam. The angst will be glorious!

It already has 70 negatives in a dumpster like Metacritic, though it's far surpassed by the sheer amount of drones upvoting it.

Nobody will care a year from now. I'd wager most people will probably not care 1-2 months from now.

 

[toro]

As for Parvati, have you folks ever sailed on a Firefly?

She is bit by bit copy of Kaylee from Firefly minus the occasional lewdness. No need to overanalyze this character further.

I don't remember the episode of firefly where you had to run around 3 planets to buy generic garbage for her lesbian date.

Had to? You didn't have to run around planets, you chose what quests to finish. As it happens, it's scientifically proven that low-T individuals are willing to do stupidest shit if pretty lady asks them nicely.

Even lower-T individuals are doing the same shit in videogames. So, how was the date with Parvati?

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

It already has 70 negatives in a dumpster like Metacritic, though it's far surpassed by the sheer amount of drones upvoting it.

All the ratings i see are +80. On PS4 it's actually much higher, but hey, their platform is starved for RPGs. Anyhow, TOW is a true 6/10 game in my opinion.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

As for Parvati, have you folks ever sailed on a Firefly?

She is bit by bit copy of Kaylee from Firefly minus the occasional lewdness. No need to overanalyze this character further.

I don't remember the episode of firefly where you had to run around 3 planets to buy generic garbage for her lesbian date.

Had to? You didn't have to run around planets, you chose what quests to finish. As it happens, it's scientifically proven that low-T individuals are willing to do stupidest shit if pretty lady asks them nicely.

Even lower-T individuals are doing the same shit in videogames. So, how was the date with Parvati?

No idea, I only bothered until the Groundbreaker part since the location was conveniently on the way.

 

[Danikas]

The fact ya'll fuckers aren't seeing anything wrong with a pretty girl being a mechanic is another proof you've been sitting in that pot with that hot soy juice for too damn long. How many female mechanics, repairmen or maintenance workers have you seen IRL?

I'm 35, I've gone through all walks of life and I've seen precisely zero. Not even in our grorious commie past when it was a bit more normal seeing women doing traditionally male jobs. Not even the Party forced them into servicing machines.

And yet Kwan entertainment is full of this idiotic archetype - a bubbly, pretty girl being all passionate about tinkering and repairing shit. Fucking Kaylee, Rey from Shit Wars, now Parvati and loads more. Breaking news - bubbly pretty girls are too busy reading Cosmopolitan, doing their make-up and dating chads to waste their time playing with greasy cogs.

"Baaaah, I haaaaven't seeen any SJW inphluenze in this gaaaame baaaah." Even the Codex is getting soyized.

 

[Lacrymas]

How many female mechanics, repairmen or maintenance workers have you seen IRL?

Those jobs are specialized drone labor, while technically-minded women usually get better grades and education (not because men are dumber, but because women are privileged in our society), so they go into better-paid and prestigious positions in this kind of discipline. There is also the interesting discrepancy between how "free" a society is and the rates of women in IT and the engineering branch, in societies where women are more oppressed (think Islam) there are more women in these fields. My interpretation is that the pressure of freedom constraints your imagination and you tend to go with flow, so 90+% of engineers are men and 90+% of nurses are women in Norway for example, the most "free" country.

 

[Junmarko]

How many female mechanics, repairmen or maintenance workers have you seen IRL?

Key word in Science-Fiction is Fiction. That's why she's also an attractive dyke, how many of those have you seen?

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

"Baaaah, I haaaaven't seeen any SJW inphluenze in this gaaaame baaaah." Even the Codex is getting soyized.

I see people like you often speak about Codex with this almost reverent tone, saying that it once used to a much harder, non-apologetic place where people really knew what was what, but much of what i've seen of the people so far has been exactly that - soyed apologists. I mean just look at the website's mascot, infintron. I am yet to see him not defend a product on release just for the sake of being an apologist, and he is just the most notable person. In this very thread you'd encounter more than a dozen people, all making huge leaps and bounds in logic and argument just so they can call TOW's critics as "whiny" and self-unconscious fanbois. Honestly, i would say that codex is FULL of veiled-sjws.

 

[Cross]

My take on the quality of writing: the setting is struggling to differentiate itself from similar IPs. That's why it feels "in the middle" so to speak and never quite seems to find its own character.

Personally I would prefer if TOW went further into the absurd and the wacky, but then it would be closing onto the Borderlands territory. If they made it even more like space-western, it's the Firefly territory. If they add some woo-woo and horror elements, it's Bioshock territorry. If it becomes too epic, it's a Mass Effect territory.

It feels as if the setting is constantly trying to balance between its various inspirations and never quite finds its own feet. It's not that original of an idea, basically. Tim and Leon were probably talking about it for years before the development started, during the era when few sci-fi games were being made, but inbetween the idea and the launch, god know how many similar games came out..

They didn't come up with the setting:

The concept that became The Outer Worlds actually started before Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky were assigned to the project. Obsidian's owners wanted to make a sci-fi game, but Feargus also thought that straight-up Star Trek-style sci-fi doesn't sell as well fantasy and post-apocalyptic, so he decided it would be "post-apocalyptic sci-fi" ("Fallout meets Firefly").

Tim and Leonard then took that initial concept and went in their own direction.

Just like with every other original IP Obsidian has made, Feargus is playing it as safe as possible.

 

[cvv]

"Baaaah, I haaaaven't seeen any SJW inphluenze in this gaaaame baaaah." Even the Codex is getting soyized.

Honestly, i would say that codex is FULL of veiled-sjws.

Have you seen the internet? There's nothing even remotely as based and bro as Codex. Not to my knowledge that is, and my knowledge is vast.

 

[Trashos]

How many female mechanics, repairmen or maintenance workers have you seen IRL?

Those jobs are specialized drone labor, while technically-minded women usually get better grades and education (not because men are dumber, but because women are privileged in our society), so they go into better-paid and prestigious positions in this kind of discipline. There is also the interesting discrepancy between how "free" a society is and the rates of women in IT and the engineering branch, in societies where women are more oppressed (think Islam) there are more women in these fields. My interpretation is that the pressure of freedom constraints your imagination and you tend to go with flow, so 90+% of engineers are men and 90+% of nurses are women in Norway for example, the most "free" country.

Or, rather, women have a completely different nervous system to men, and the female nervous system exists to nurture other living (empathetic) forms of being. Not machines.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

And yet Kwan entertainment is full of this idiotic archetype - a bubbly, pretty girl being all passionate about tinkering and repairing shit. Fucking Kaylee, Rey from Shit Wars, now Parvati and loads more. Breaking news - bubbly pretty girls are too busy reading Cosmopolitan, doing their make-up and dating chads to waste their time playing with greasy cogs.

Imagine being angry because there are pretty women.
Are you gay?