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The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

Slaver1

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Specs aside, these closed boxes are increasingly useless, imo. Only way I'd buy a PS5 is second-hand if Persona 6 was out and actually worthy of the hype.
 

soulburner

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Lots of hype about that magical SSD, I'll believe it when i see it.
You can load some games into RAM and still nobody makes a big fuss about it. And all of a sudden there comes this super duper magic item that will blow gaming into outer space in a $500 machine.
Get real.
Well, try fitting RDR2 into your RAM then :)

Anyhow, I hope Sony fuckers show more "gameplay" this time around (...)
Yeah, I bet this ain't gonna happen and we will get a "Cinematic running in engine. Pre-release material subject to change" in the corner ;)
 

DalekFlay

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There currently is no SSD on the market that is as fast as the PS5 one is promising to be. Sure, you can get a hyper expensive PCI-Express card with several NVME disks stuck together, maybe offering even higher transfer speeds, but... it's expensive as fuck and thus should be considered as "not available". But, as I said, more middle and low end motherboards will get PCI-Express 4.0 later this year, so the standard will become more and more popular within the coming months and SSD manufacturers will be happy to release more nvme disks that can utilize this (because more people will be able to use them to their full potential - there's no reason to release an ultra fast SSD series right now when only high end Ryzen and Threadripper systems can utilize them).

Again though, there's a difference between "available on PC" and actually used by a good percentage of PC gamers. The PS5 will presumably be the best selling console by a wide margin if they follow the PS4's lead, and it will have this kind of speedy SSD standard in every box. That's a lot different from PC gamers slowly getting them over a long stretch of time the next handful of years. However my point isn't that PC is fucked or whatever, it's more that I doubt this hardware is well used on anything multiplatform.
 

Taxnomore

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Codex 2013 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015
I have set up an alarm on my phone to dig up this thread in 7 years and remind you about the revolutionary stuff some were expecting when we are just playing more corridor shooters and empty AAA shit.
 

soulburner

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Again though, there's a difference between "available on PC" and actually used by a good percentage of PC gamers. The PS5 will presumably be the best selling console by a wide margin if they follow the PS4's lead, and it will have this kind of speedy SSD standard in every box. That's a lot different from PC gamers slowly getting them over a long stretch of time the next handful of years. However my point isn't that PC is fucked or whatever, it's more that I doubt this hardware is well used on anything multiplatform.

You are right, of course. People won't suddenly invade the stores to buy new storage when they show up. However, if PS5 is popular, and there is no reason to suspect otherwise, then SSD manufacturers will do what they can to compete. It may take a while, but will happen. PC enthusiast forums will be full of suggestions to upgrade the SSD when games start to stutter on gamers' rigs. One more thing: the Xbox's SSD is going to be slower than what the PS5 will offer but thanks to DirectStorage, which will be ported to Windows even SATA3 SSDs may get enough of a performance boost (much lower CPU overhead when accessing lots of data, not the amount of MB transferred per sec) to remain relevant for some time.

We'll see how it goes. Awaiting further data :)
 

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Tehdagah

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https://www.hotukdeals.com/discussions/ps5-price-leak-on-amazon-2tb-3482477

£600 notes. £70 games as well.

If it's genuine Cerny has pulled a Ken kKutaragi.
There won't be a 2tb storage ps5. Sony has stated that the 800 and so GB drive is the limit presently and bigger ssds with their tech will only be available later. Unless they are going with an apple style hybrid drive, but unlikely, as it would defeat purpose of it.
Well this sucks, 1tb HD wasn't enough for the PS4.
 

Jrpgfan

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1tb is more than enough for a videogame unless you wanna keep every single game you buy installed in it forever.

Heck, I only play games on a 512gb SSD on my PC and I never even reached half of the storage space.
 

Tehdagah

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1tb is more than enough for a videogame unless you wanna keep every single game you buy installed in it forever.

Heck, I only play games on a 512gb SSD on my PC and I never even reached half of the storage space.
Some PS4 games are 100GB+, the PS5 games will be even bigger.
 

Jrpgfan

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1tb is more than enough for a videogame unless you wanna keep every single game you buy installed in it forever.

Heck, I only play games on a 512gb SSD on my PC and I never even reached half of the storage space.
Some PS4 games are 100GB+, the PS5 games will be even bigger.

You could still install 6 RDR2(takes 150Gb) with 1tb. I'll never understand how that's not enough for some people.
 
Unwanted

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How much space will next-gen games take, though? we went from 30GB games to 150GB ones in no time.
 

Jrpgfan

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Just fucking uninstall the games you're not currently playing. Unless you play 10 games at the same time.

Atleast we know for certain the PS5 SSD will be useful for something.
 

Taxnomore

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Step 1. Release "In-Engine" Footage, but no gameplay.
Step 2. Have the games playable by journalists at limited events ; someone will randomly figure out the demo was actually running on a high-end PC.
Step 3. Release new trailers that are slightly degraded over the Step 1.
Step 4. Console and games release , it looks like a slightly improved PS4 game. It's too late. You bought it.
 

vonAchdorf

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One of the few things I agree on with Morgoth - same shit different generation.
 

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