The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

That just killed off the Xbox Series S.

Especially in 'Gamepass vs 80 Euro per gaem' competition.

 

[Pegultagol]

Kinda surprised that the difference between disc and digital is $100, Microsoft at least tried to increase the gap between product SKUs so as not to make the disc version look kinda redundant. Looks like Sony really is pushing for Digital for that extra slice of the game sales pie from their PS store and may have just tipped the point onto slippery slope toward digital in game distribution. The increase in MSRP for games also might funnel gamers seeking game pass type deals and get truly locked into respective ecosystem while not subscribing to the idea of owning anything anymore. I dunno how to call it, but it is getting a little scary for one who still pops in his disc in his PC from time to time to play games.

The best bet for the PC gamers is to get a Ti-version of 3070 with more VRAM than 8gb. The problem is GPU in general might be in very limited numbers seeing how the 3080 looks like a paper launch at least in this market. Curious to see how the next offering from AMD might stack up.

 

[Kem0sabe]

The reception to the sony first party game price hike has been generally bad across-the-board, especially amongst it's european, canadian and australian player bases.

80€, 100$ CAN and 120$ AUS for a game is really too much.

 

[Gerrard]

I love how even with the gold plated version that is 7999£, the disc version is still 100£ more expensive.

 

[DalekFlay]

Kinda surprised that the difference between disc and digital is $100, Microsoft at least tried to increase the gap between product SKUs so as not to make the disc version look kinda redundant. Looks like Sony really is pushing for Digital for that extra slice of the game sales pie from their PS store and may have just tipped the point onto slippery slope toward digital in game distribution. The increase in MSRP for games also might funnel gamers seeking game pass type deals and get truly locked into respective ecosystem while not subscribing to the idea of owning anything anymore. I dunno how to call it, but it is getting a little scary for one who still pops in his disc in his PC from time to time to play games.

The best bet for the PC gamers is to get a Ti-version of 3070 with more VRAM than 8gb. The problem is GPU in general might be in very limited numbers seeing how the 3080 looks like a paper launch at least in this market. Curious to see how the next offering from AMD might stack up.

3070 will be for 1440p, so I think the VRAM is fine. I could be wrong though. 3080 definitely should have had more.

As for Sony and discs, I'm surprised it's taken consoles this long to really press the issue. Same for Nintendo and that Mario collection. PC quickly went pretty much digital only a decade ago, and many popular console games are download only already (or require massive patches to work). Obviously consumers will accept it if you don't offer them a choice. I guess they've been sliding the dildo in slowly, but they could have gotten away with ramming it in faster IMO.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Probably God of War, teased at the very end.

It's a 2021 release, it'll be crossgen.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

3070 will be for 1440p, so I think the VRAM is fine. I could be wrong though. 3080 definitely should have had more.

As for Sony and discs, I'm surprised it's taken consoles this long to really press the issue. Same for Nintendo and that Mario collection. PC quickly went pretty much digital only a decade ago, and many popular console games are download only already (or require massive patches to work). Obviously consumers will accept it if you don't offer them a choice. I guess they've been sliding the dildo in slowly, but they could have gotten away with ramming it in faster IMO.

Stop saying this mate. This '1080p, 1440p, 4k card' segmenting bullshit is straight out of nvidias marketing department.

It's a £460 card in 2020. 4k should be what it's benched at with 1080 and 1440p considered legacy.

 

[DalekFlay]

Stop saying this mate. This '1080p, 1440p, 4k card' segmenting bullshit is straight out of nvidias marketing department.

It's a £460 card in 2020. 4k should be what it's benched at with 1080 and 1440p considered legacy.

I mean, I understand the point you're making on price relative to 1000 series and such. I just think that's more an argument for nVidia's pricing being shit and AMD not offering competition though, rather than the fact that's what these cards are aimed at. AMD marketed the 5700xt as the 1440p card as well. The real issue is 1440p cards cost $500 now, not labeling them 1440p cards, IMO.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The reception to the sony first party game price hike has been generally bad across-the-board, especially amongst it's european, canadian and australian player bases.

80€, 100$ CAN and 120$ AUS for a game is really too much.

consider it a smug tax

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Who is Miles Morales and what has he done with Peter Parker?

 

[The Decline]

Who is Miles Morales and what has he done with Peter Parker?

He was a PC stunt to replace Peter Parker with a nigger-spic. They almost made him gay too.

 

[Taxnomore]

Who is Miles Morales and what has he done with Peter Parker?

He was a PC stunt to replace Peter Parker with a nigger-spic. They almost made him gay too.

A convenient way not to mention that "Into the spiderverse" is the best superhero movie since the Batman Nolan trilogy.

 

[J_C]

3070 will be for 1440p, so I think the VRAM is fine. I could be wrong though. 3080 definitely should have had more.

As for Sony and discs, I'm surprised it's taken consoles this long to really press the issue. Same for Nintendo and that Mario collection. PC quickly went pretty much digital only a decade ago, and many popular console games are download only already (or require massive patches to work). Obviously consumers will accept it if you don't offer them a choice. I guess they've been sliding the dildo in slowly, but they could have gotten away with ramming it in faster IMO.

Stop saying this mate. This '1080p, 1440p, 4k card' segmenting bullshit is straight out of nvidias marketing department.

It's a £460 card in 2020. 4k should be what it's benched at with 1080 and 1440p considered legacy.

Fuck 4K. It's the biggest waste of money for PC or console. Who the fuck pays more than double price for hardware just to play 4K with sub 60 framerate, when you can have the same good looking game at 1440p at 60-120 fps and with hardware half the price. And we are not even talking about the price of the monitor, TV.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

He was a PC stunt to replace Peter Parker with a nigger-spic. They almost made him gay too.

I like that he feels designed by whiteys that want to rimjob black people. Comes out wearing typical hood shit, has rap/hip hop sounding music for fight scenes, saves a bus headed for Harlem. Pure cake.

 

[Cromwell]

I like that he feels designed by whiteys that want to rimjob black people. Comes out wearing typical hood shit, has rap/hip hop sounding music for fight scenes, saves a bus headed for Harlem. Pure cake.

hes afro latino so its not only blacks they wanted.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

hes afro latino so its not only blacks they wanted.

Daaamn, Spider-Man gonna come with a knife too lmao

 

[Abu Antar]

I looked up prices and I can wait.

Over $600 for the non-digital version and $90 for some games. I'm not that desperate.

 

[ricolikesrice]

-series S seems overpriced compared to digital PS5
-non-digital PS5 seems overpriced compared to series X

gamepass : a really good deal, especially great for parents. i already did get my moneys worth from it and at the same time my youngest kid doesnt ever need to buy games because there s so much stuff in game pass. my subscription runs till september 2022 and i bought most of it during speciall offers so i only payed something like 100 Euro for that.

exclusives : big meh, Demons Souls was the reason i bought a PS3 many years ago but all the other sony stuff is (for my tastes) shit, god of war/uncharted... those games are all soo fucking boring graphics demos. same for microsofts stuff though. i havent seen a good console exclusive i care about in a long time.

my family is gonna stay with PC(me), PC(teenage son), xbox one s (youngest son), Thermomix (wife) for our gaming needs.

 

[J_C]

my family is gonna stay with PC(me), PC(teenage son), xbox one s (youngest son), Thermomix (wife) for our gaming needs.

You are a terrible parent.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Fuck 4K. It's the biggest waste of money for PC or console. Who the fuck pays more than double price for hardware just to play 4K with sub 60 framerate, when you can have the same good looking game at 1440p at 60-120 fps and with hardware half the price. And we are not even talking about the price of the monitor, TV.

OLED displays only come in 4k, HDR (real ones) displays only come in 4k.

Your 144 hertz is all well and good, but it's 144 frames of dogshit because it's being outputted by a 1000:1 contrast ratio IPS panel.

I'd love a 1440p panel from a real display technology, unfortunately they don't exist.

 

[DalekFlay]

I like that he feels designed by whiteys that want to rimjob black people. Comes out wearing typical hood shit, has rap/hip hop sounding music for fight scenes, saves a bus headed for Harlem. Pure cake.

Current race theory and college indoctrination preaches that culture and race are basically the same, and reinforces the stupid fucking idea that if you're black you're supposed to be what Morales is.

OLED displays only come in 4k, HDR (real ones) displays only come in 4k.

Your 144 hertz is all well and good, but it's 144 frames of dogshit because it's being outputted by a 1000:1 contrast ratio IPS panel.

I'd love a 1440p panel from a real display technology, unfortunately they don't exist.

There are good VA panels that offer 144hz with 3000:1 contrast. A bias light also massively improves the blacks. Not an OLED, but plenty good enough. Also OLED monitors are insanely priced, and I don't use a TV to game at a desk with mouse and keyboard, so...

 

[The Decline]

OLED displays only come in 4k, HDR (real ones) displays only come in 4k.

Your 144 hertz is all well and good, but it's 144 frames of dogshit because it's being outputted by a 1000:1 contrast ratio IPS panel.

I'd love a 1440p panel from a real display technology, unfortunately they don't exist.

There are good VA panels that offer 144hz with 3000:1 contrast. A bias light also massively improves the blacks. Not an OLED, but plenty good enough. Also OLED monitors are insanely priced, and I don't use a TV to game at a desk with mouse and keyboard, so...

They are also burn in proof and the colors won't degrade.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I like that he feels designed by whiteys that want to rimjob black people. Comes out wearing typical hood shit, has rap/hip hop sounding music for fight scenes, saves a bus headed for Harlem. Pure cake.

Current race theory and college indoctrination preaches that culture and race are basically the same, and reinforces the stupid fucking idea that if you're black you're supposed to be what Morales is.

OLED displays only come in 4k, HDR (real ones) displays only come in 4k.

Your 144 hertz is all well and good, but it's 144 frames of dogshit because it's being outputted by a 1000:1 contrast ratio IPS panel.

I'd love a 1440p panel from a real display technology, unfortunately they don't exist.

There are good VA panels that offer 144hz with 3000:1 contrast. A bias light also massively improves the blacks. Not an OLED, but plenty good enough. Also OLED monitors are insanely priced, and I don't use a TV to game at a desk with mouse and keyboard, so...

VA technology by its very nature is ill suited to fast refresh. The pixel structure that give it it's higher contrast ratio means it can't switch as rapidly as TN or IPS. So VA panel all have a smear/dark ghosting effect. Not too bad for me as I don't give a fuck about 144hz, but it defeats the entire purpose of fast refresh monitors. VA panels also have shite off angle viewing and gamma shift which can crush blacks with head on viewing. Fast refresh exists because the underlying technology of LCD is dogshit, they have to push these absurd frequences to counter the abysmal pixel response rate.

The fact you're mentioning 3000:1 contrast as some kind of benchmark says it all. Bias lighting? why don't you get a torch and shine it directly onto your screen? that'll improve the percieved black level as well... Ohh wait no it won't, because 90 percent of monitors have an anti glare coating which adds at a cataract over the image.

Samsung needs to stop being dog eating korean faggots, put LCD tech to bed, and start pumping out large OLED panels alongside LG. Enough is enough.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Just bring back plasmas.

 

[Morgoth]

Samsung needs to stop being dog eating korean faggots, put LCD tech to bed, and start pumping out large OLED panels alongside LG. Enough is enough.

Once Britain leaves, Boris will strike a deal with the dog eaters and build a cutting-edge 4K HDR panel factory in Bolton. You'll see.