The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[soulburner]

Do _not_ overestimate SSD.

Clearly you haven't played Pillars of Eternity off an HDD.

 

[Cromwell]

My gamepass informed me that EA play will be merged into gamepass early november without extra cost. That should pull even more people.

 

[vonAchdorf]

Quite ironic that people get more and more games for almost free, but no one can actually play all this and therefore the majority of hours played and money spent is concentrated a few multiplayer titles.

 

[Rahdulan]

Quite ironic that people get more and more games for almost free, but no one can actually play all this and therefore the majority of hours played and money spent is concentrated a few few multiplayer titles.

That or people are just rushing from one release to the next thinking it's their obligation to make the most of their subscription. On top of basically killing replay incentives in games, because who has the time when there's 10+ new games to play, you have to wonder how long until gaming fatigue sets in.

 

[Cromwell]

because who has the time when there's 10+ new games to play, you have to wonder how long until gaming fatigue sets in.

On the other hand gamepass helped me to play games I wouldnt have bought otherwise. I already had yakuza for ps4 for example and just forgot about it, with a backlog full of games. I saw it in Gamepass gave it a try and played right through it, starting the second kiwami and then pausing because I was a bit burned out. I also played nier to completion finally because it was in gamepass. Its not that these games arent worth playing but I would have to buy them otherwise and I have a lot of games that are well worth playing bought already so its easier to justify starting something thats in gamepass than to buy it and find out if its really good. But I also dont care about making the most of it, if there is only one game in a few months I or my woman play I think the pass was worth it, it greatly decreased my steam impulse buys.

 

[DalekFlay]

Gamepass is perfect for people who mainly play one game but dabble outside of that, or people who jump from one game to another over and over because they love every genre and just want to try everything or "be in the know."

For people like me who play only a few genres, a lot of niche games, replays older stuff all the time and very rarely buy AAA stuff day one, it's a LOT less appealing.

 

[Markman]

They will convert you too. Only thing missing is them buying Larian. Every western RPG with a bit of decent budget is gonna be published by Xbox Game Studios.

 

[Kem0sabe]

According to a Russian leak, which might be true or not, the ps5 only has little more than 600GB of usable space on its SSD

 

[Konjad]

Although Xbawx was always shit and Sony was clearly a better option (not that I'd choose any console, but if I had to), it seems that it is in reverse now. Xbawx has now somewhat better performing option (X), cheaper option (S) and Gamepass. Moreover, they bought some devs that might make some popular games (I won't say good, but certainly will be popular). Whereas all Sony can say is... they have a few exclooooosives.

 

[DalekFlay]

They will convert you too. Only thing missing is them buying Larian. Every western RPG with a bit of decent budget is gonna be published by Xbox Game Studios.

Well yeah, but my point is the mainstream flocking to subscription services is gonna fuck over people like me once the exclusives start rolling out. Same with what's happening to TV and movies right now. It's a depressing reality.

 

[Morgoth]

What's really depressing is that Sony has released boring shit like Derp Stranding and Horizon: Greenpeace Amazon on PC, but no beep on God of War 4.

 

[vortex]

What's really depressing is that Sony has released boring shit like Derp Stranding and Horizon: Greenpeace Amazon on PC, but no beep on God of War 4.

I expect Bloodborne this year and GOW4 next year on PC.

 

[Gerrard]

Motherfuckers, ssds were already common when they launched current gen. Now suddenly you shouldn't game without one?

Now that consoles have caught up developers will count on having on, and they'll be minimum requirements on PC soon as a result. Which is good.

No it isn't, you dumbass. That just means data structure and handling will be yet another area in which devs can become lazy because the answer to poor performance will be "just buy better hardware".
Path of Exile is a perfect example.

 

[Markman]

Bit of PS5 gameplay. All cut tho, no UI or loading screens.



Some pics of console and gamepad

 

[fizzelopeguss]

What's really depressing is that Sony has released boring shit like Derp Stranding and Horizon: Greenpeace Amazon on PC, but no beep on God of War 4.

I expect Bloodborne this year and GOW4 next year on PC.

We didn't even get a Pro patch for bloodborne. It's like they completely abandoned that game.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Dunno why sony is being so anal about showing the ui this close to release.

 

[User was nabbed fit]

Probably to create even more hype when they eventually do show it. It's a drip feed.

 

[toro]

Probably to create even more hype when they eventually do show it. It's a drip feed.

Or maybe it's just shit. Or both.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Quite ironic that people get more and more games for almost free, but no one can actually play all this and therefore the majority of hours played and money spent is concentrated a few few multiplayer titles.

That or people are just rushing from one release to the next thinking it's their obligation to make the most of their subscription. On top of basically killing replay incentives in games, because who has the time when there's 10+ new games to play, you have to wonder how long until gaming fatigue sets in.

Most games aren't worth replaying anyways. Gaming fatigue seems like a weird thing to wonder about anyways given a new game every week (or every other week) is probably what a lot of people did back in the days when you could rent everything that came out on consoles.

On the plus side I could easily see Game Pass bring back the types of games that were found in arcades, but basically died when people didn't want to pay full price for something that could maybe be beat in a hour or few. With the price not really being part of the equation that might not matter anymore, and developing shorter games could easily bolster the number of titles they have to fill it out faster.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Dunno why sony is being so anal about showing the ui this close to release.

I wouldn't expect it to be much different than the PS4. Sony seems to have a universal UI for their hardware. The TVs, DVD/Blu-ray players, and PS4s all basically have the same UI. I'd guess whatever it looks like doesn't look all that different from whatever their newest TVs look like.

 

[DalekFlay]

We didn't even get a Pro patch for bloodborne. It's like they completely abandoned that game.

Maybe they just want to sell it to you again with a PS5 "remaster."

 

[Pegultagol]

I think the value of Gamepass depends on the types of games one play. If the titles one is interested in are long 25-30 hour affairs they may take a few weeks to complete, and most likely they are in some buggy or somewhat unplayable state anyway if newly released. I think the best way for its use for them is for a month at a time, demoing some new first party titles to get past the hype and keep up with the times. Wasteland 3 was such a title, and I think with the beta pricing still intact at the time of its release (not anymore), I think I got my moneys worth.

 

[DalekFlay]

I think the value of Gamepass depends on the types of games one play. If the titles one is interested in are long 25-30 hour affairs they may take a few weeks to complete, and most likely they are in some buggy or somewhat unplayable state anyway if newly released. I think the best way for its use for them is for a month at a time, demoing some new first party titles to get past the hype and keep up with the times. Wasteland 3 was such a title, and I think with the beta pricing still intact at the time of its release (not anymore), I think I got my moneys worth.

Remember than "normals" play games like Assassin's Creed for a dozen hours or so and then quit, moving on to the next shiny new thing Youtube is talking about. Gamepass will be built around people quickly moving from one shiny object to another, not caring about owning anything or replaying anything.

 

[aweigh]

According to a Russian leak, which might be true or not, the ps5 only has little more than 600GB of usable space on its SSD

A huge chunk of that un-usuable space is permanently reserved for installing game updates, as a kind of buffer and as a cache, it's to prevent the scenario of a 10 year old filling up his drive with tons of random shit and then when he connects to Modern Warfare and it starts updating it craps out because there isn't enough space; that will never happen because there is already a pre-determined space allotted to game updating and every dev has to work within that allotment when designing games/updates.

Good luck explaining the sensibility of this to angry console pheasants who want "full terabyte access", tho.

 

[Markman]

Going all digital for new releases is gonna result in way less purchases. Was checking the new Crash 4 game and they priced it at 749 sek(~70 euros) at Xbox store. While disc version is at 599(55 euros).
Still way too expensive for a platformer, imo. Wake me up when its 30.

Just ordered Razer Kishi from Microsoft store, was cheapest there of all places to try out the mobile Xbox outside the house. Looks more handy to carry around than Xbox controller.

They updated the Xbox beta app on the phone and now I can connect even via phone network to my Xbox at home and stream from there even if you dont have Gamepass.
Also my phone network provider giving me 3 months of unlimited data usage for no reason whatsoever nudged me a bit in decision to get the Kishi. Hope it doesnt suck.