The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

[CryptRat]

Imagine only owning 25% of Valve's shares.

 

[Gerrard]

16b is too low for Valve.

Didn't they pay 70 billion for Blizzard or something?

 

[Alienman]

JarlFrank steam library is worth more alone.

 

[Tehdagah]

16b is too low for Valve.

Didn't they pay 70 billion for Blizzard or something?

Yes and Valve makes more revenue than Activison.

16b is ridiculously low for Valve.

 

[Catacombs]

Last I checked Blizzard didn't own the biggest PC game distribution platform.

We can only hope the FTC uses that information effectively to convince a judge to block the deal.

 

[ferratilis]

Yet another reminder that you don't own anything.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-indu...llowed-to-bequeath-a-steam-account-in-a-will/

You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will​

News
By Ted Litchfield
published 46 minutes ago
All these unfinished, 75% off, 7/10 RPGs will be lost to time, like tears in rain.

(Image credit: Valve Software)

First reported by Ars Technica, ResetEra user delete12345 has made an interesting discovery about Steam libraries: we're not allowed to bequeath them to our loved ones in the event of our untimely passing.
Delete12345 asked Steam Support about the hypothetical scenario, and got a clear, professional, but very disappointing response. "Unfortunately, Steam accounts and games are non-transferable," the support rep explained. "Steam Support can't provide someone else with access to the account or merge its access to another account.

"I regret to inform you that your Steam account cannot be transferred via a will."
Now, I was going to suggest that you can just give your designated heir the Steam login and password without getting lawyers involved⁠—barring a sudden tragedy or Knives Out-style scenario where your grasping heirs are at each other's throats trying to secure your estate, that should work perfectly fine. But it turns out that would be in flagrant violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve," the document reads. And if that wasn't clear enough, it also refers to password sharing as a "violation of this confidentiality agreement" a little further down.
So you heard it loud and clear, folks. Unless you want to take on the mortal sin of breaking the iron law of End User License Agreement just as you slip this mortal coil, forever cleaving your soul from God, grace, and Gabe Newell, you just gotta let that library lie fallow after you're gone.
If, however, you insist on your progeny taking up your very same $1,500 Counter-Strike 2 AWP with some kind of ugly graffiti dragon on it, slipping your issue the account username and password in contravention of the sacred EULA you signed (no doubt having read the whole thing several times over), I suppose that's your prerogative.

 

[Modron]

So if you're just leasing the games why do you have to pay sales tax on them?

 

[DemonKing]

No point leaving my digital games, music and movies to my kids - they already mock me enough for what I currently play, listen to and watch so the chance of them finishing off my Steam pile of shame after I'm gone is less than nil.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

"I regret to inform you that your Steam account cannot be transferred via a will."
Now, I was going to suggest that you can just give your designated heir the Steam login and password without getting lawyers involved⁠—barring a sudden tragedy or Knives Out-style scenario where your grasping heirs are at each other's throats trying to secure your estate, that should work perfectly fine. But it turns out that would be in flagrant violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve," the document reads. And if that wasn't clear enough, it also refers to password sharing as a "violation of this confidentiality agreement" a little further down.
So you heard it loud and clear, folks. Unless you want to take on the mortal sin of breaking the iron law of End User License Agreement just as you slip this mortal coil, forever cleaving your soul from God, grace, and Gabe Newell, you just gotta let that library lie fallow after you're gone.
If, however, you insist on your progeny taking up your very same $1,500 Counter-Strike 2 AWP with some kind of ugly graffiti dragon on it, slipping your issue the account username and password in contravention of the sacred EULA you signed (no doubt having read the whole thing several times over), I suppose that's your prerogative.

Not really enforced, mostly there for liability.

 

[Mitleser2020]

"I regret to inform you that your Steam account cannot be transferred via a will."
Now, I was going to suggest that you can just give your designated heir the Steam login and password without getting lawyers involved⁠—barring a sudden tragedy or Knives Out-style scenario where your grasping heirs are at each other's throats trying to secure your estate, that should work perfectly fine. But it turns out that would be in flagrant violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve," the document reads. And if that wasn't clear enough, it also refers to password sharing as a "violation of this confidentiality agreement" a little further down.
So you heard it loud and clear, folks. Unless you want to take on the mortal sin of breaking the iron law of End User License Agreement just as you slip this mortal coil, forever cleaving your soul from God, grace, and Gabe Newell, you just gotta let that library lie fallow after you're gone.
If, however, you insist on your progeny taking up your very same $1,500 Counter-Strike 2 AWP with some kind of ugly graffiti dragon on it, slipping your issue the account username and password in contravention of the sacred EULA you signed (no doubt having read the whole thing several times over), I suppose that's your prerogative.

Not really enforced, mostly there for liability.

Yeah, that answer is at odds with what happened to Shamus Young's account.

That bit of info was interesting, though.

So… I’m kind of morbidly curious now. Does anything special happen at all, or does Steam just assume you stopped logging in and blissfully keep your data untouched?

Pretty much nothing happens. Steam just lets the account sit there, it’s pretty much up to the family who gets it. You can pass it on to someone as an inheritance, or just let it collect dust. I suppose you could also delete it, but that seems like burning money. We’ve turned it into a ‘family account’ since he owned nearly a thousand games. I do kind of wonder what would happen if it got listed in someone’s official will? But, likely it would just be the giving of passwords just like the unofficial version.

The internet has made death very strange since much of the things someone ‘had’ can be in a digital space. This site itself is pretty good evidence of that.

 

[lycanwarrior]

"I regret to inform you that your Steam account cannot be transferred via a will."
Now, I was going to suggest that you can just give your designated heir the Steam login and password without getting lawyers involved⁠—barring a sudden tragedy or Knives Out-style scenario where your grasping heirs are at each other's throats trying to secure your estate, that should work perfectly fine. But it turns out that would be in flagrant violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve," the document reads. And if that wasn't clear enough, it also refers to password sharing as a "violation of this confidentiality agreement" a little further down.
So you heard it loud and clear, folks. Unless you want to take on the mortal sin of breaking the iron law of End User License Agreement just as you slip this mortal coil, forever cleaving your soul from God, grace, and Gabe Newell, you just gotta let that library lie fallow after you're gone.
If, however, you insist on your progeny taking up your very same $1,500 Counter-Strike 2 AWP with some kind of ugly graffiti dragon on it, slipping your issue the account username and password in contravention of the sacred EULA you signed (no doubt having read the whole thing several times over), I suppose that's your prerogative.

Not really enforced, mostly there for liability.

http://disq.us/p/2yykbb2

MechMouse Orfez8 hours ago edited
Read the article... or the SSA
That forbidden, breaks the SSA and Valve can close your account and you loose the right to all your games.
Will Valve know, of course not, you could get away with it .. until something goes wrong and you contact support
People have already tried to give accounts to their kids only for them to be closed.

 

[Cyberarmy]

No point leaving my digital games, music and movies to my kids - they already mock me enough for what I currently play, listen to and watch so the chance of them finishing off my Steam pile of shame after I'm gone is less than nil.

Yeah, I'll just sell my account when I'm really old and spend the money on hookers.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yet another reminder that you don't own anything.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-indu...llowed-to-bequeath-a-steam-account-in-a-will/

You can't take it with you, but you can't leave it for someone else either: Valve says you aren't allowed to bequeath a Steam account in a will​

News
By Ted Litchfield
published 46 minutes ago
All these unfinished, 75% off, 7/10 RPGs will be lost to time, like tears in rain.

(Image credit: Valve Software)

First reported by Ars Technica, ResetEra user delete12345 has made an interesting discovery about Steam libraries: we're not allowed to bequeath them to our loved ones in the event of our untimely passing.
Delete12345 asked Steam Support about the hypothetical scenario, and got a clear, professional, but very disappointing response. "Unfortunately, Steam accounts and games are non-transferable," the support rep explained. "Steam Support can't provide someone else with access to the account or merge its access to another account.

"I regret to inform you that your Steam account cannot be transferred via a will."
Now, I was going to suggest that you can just give your designated heir the Steam login and password without getting lawyers involved⁠—barring a sudden tragedy or Knives Out-style scenario where your grasping heirs are at each other's throats trying to secure your estate, that should work perfectly fine. But it turns out that would be in flagrant violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve," the document reads. And if that wasn't clear enough, it also refers to password sharing as a "violation of this confidentiality agreement" a little further down.
So you heard it loud and clear, folks. Unless you want to take on the mortal sin of breaking the iron law of End User License Agreement just as you slip this mortal coil, forever cleaving your soul from God, grace, and Gabe Newell, you just gotta let that library lie fallow after you're gone.
If, however, you insist on your progeny taking up your very same $1,500 Counter-Strike 2 AWP with some kind of ugly graffiti dragon on it, slipping your issue the account username and password in contravention of the sacred EULA you signed (no doubt having read the whole thing several times over), I suppose that's your prerogative.

And keep in mind, Valve are the good guys when it comes to the digital landscape.




























Yeah.

 

[mediocrepoet]

*Before we can create your Microsoft Steam account, you must provide an up-to-date rectal scan and sperm sample*

Oh thank God. I used to feel like a pervert for mailing that stuff to them.

 

[Elttharion]

No point leaving my digital games, music and movies to my kids - they already mock me enough for what I currently play, listen to and watch so the chance of them finishing off my Steam pile of shame after I'm gone is less than nil.

Wow, dad was really into japanese porn games

No thanks, I'll take my steam library to the grave

 

[Caim]

No point leaving my digital games, music and movies to my kids - they already mock me enough for what I currently play, listen to and watch so the chance of them finishing off my Steam pile of shame after I'm gone is less than nil.

Wow, dad was really into japanese porn games

No thanks, I'll take my steam library to the grave

Imagine having your homie die and he leaves you his Steam account, except it's 500 shitty furry porn games he bought as a joke.

And then Gaben closes it because fuck you.

 

[Gerrard]

So if you're just leasing the games why do you have to pay sales tax on them?

You think services are not taxed?

 

[Average Manatee]

*Before we can create your Microsoft Steam account, you must provide an up-to-date rectal scan and sperm sample*

That's one way to keep the women and kids out of PC gaming.

 

[Mitleser2020]

MechMouse
Read the article... or the SSA
That forbidden, breaks the SSA and Valve can close your account and you loose the right to all your games.
Will Valve know, of course not, you could get away with it .. until something goes wrong and you contact support
People have already tried to give accounts to their kids only for them to be closed.

BTW

That line

"You may not reveal, share, or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve,"

You can thank me for that

When the appalling bad Steam Family Sharing and Family View went live, the way they worked (contrary to 50 years of basic administrative System design) required a Parent to access a Child's account in order to set the family View PIN. This act was in violation of the SSA at the time.

I pointed this out (bear in mind there had been open beta for 12 months at this point) and less than a week later the SSA was updated with this line.

Also note, this didn't actually fix the legal/technical flaw, since nowhere have Valve given permission to users for this exemption....

 

[DemonKing]

Yeah, I'll just sell my account when I'm really old and spend the money on hookers.

...and viagra?

 

[Lyric Suite]

BTW, we all know why the urilanists are asking for Microsoft to buy Valve.

It's because Gabe is a libertarian and won't impose the kind of censorship they want. If Microsoft was in charge shit like curators focusing on warning people about games associated with SBI or other DEI stuff wouldn't be allowed.

 

[normie]

BTW, we all know why the urilanists are asking for Microsoft to buy Valve.

It's because Gabe is a libertarian and won't impose the kind of censorship they want. If Microsoft was in charge shit like curators focusing on warning people about games associated with SBI or other DEI stuff wouldn't be allowed.

no, it's to kill Proton

 

[catfood]

BTW, we all know why the urilanists are asking for Microsoft to buy Valve.

It's because Gabe is a libertarian and won't impose the kind of censorship they want. If Microsoft was in charge shit like curators focusing on warning people about games associated with SBI or other DEI stuff wouldn't be allowed.

no, it's to kill Proton

Yes, and this goes hand in hand with Microshit's recent announcement about Copilot and Recall. They don't want gamers to have an option to migrate to Linux if they don't want AI spyware on their computer. Microshit would definitely put an end to Steam on Linux, possibly cutting out the Linux Steam client entirely. For most Linux gaymers this would be a death sentence because they're too dumb to realize that PC gaming is more than just Steam and multiplayer games.

 

[ultimanecat]

It can be both. MS would want Steam because Steam is becoming a direct threat to Windows staying relevant to anyone except people using Excel in an office. But alongside Microsoft’s financial motives, they would bring an entire corporate bureaucracy that’s currently dedicated to making shit lame and gay.

Journalists would push for this because they hate that Gabe isn’t heavy handed about what sells on Steam and has kept some the more retarded impulses of his Seattle techie workforce under his thumb when it comes to how the store runs. Remember how hard journos pushed for Epic? It was ostensibly because Epic pays more but also because Epic actively curates EGS and probably has content managers willing to be influenced by the midwits at Kotaku.

 

[Alphard]

It can be both. MS would want Steam because Steam is becoming a direct threat to Windows staying relevant to anyone except people using Excel in an office. But alongside Microsoft’s financial motives, they would bring an entire corporate bureaucracy that’s currently dedicated to making shit lame and gay.

Journalists would push for this because they hate that Gabe isn’t heavy handed about what sells on Steam and has kept some the more retarded impulses of his Seattle techie workforce under his thumb when it comes to how the store runs. Remember how hard journos pushed for Epic? It was ostensibly because Epic pays more but also because Epic actively curates EGS and probably has content managers willing to be influenced by the midwits at Kotaku.

time to sell steam account. is it even possible?