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hiver

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I guess wonderpoops is writing again about prison rapes and other assorted brain feces...

cant really read that shit old boy, i have better things to waste time on. just go and throw yourself under a truck or something. your family will be very happy.

(youre on ignore retard)
 
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Mozgoëbstvo said:
Awor, not to be with those cretins but, fuck damn, you HAD TO KNOW what you exposed yourself to when you reveal a piece of info like that.
Total derp and subhumanism is a KodexKristmasKlassic.
Well, to be honest, some people here have reached completely new depths of retardation/depravity. Wow, I can understand that a lot of people aren't interested in the traditional family model, but to claim that babies and children should have to earn the support of their parents basically kinda goes beyond the moral event horizon. My ideological enemy list got enriched today.

Mozgoëbstvo said:
I read very little of the conversation, was only telling Awor he can't expect humanity from all; wasn't accusing anyone in particular, though.
Yeah, I know. Lots of enablers and people who really care only about their interests everywhere. I was at school today and saw a few people talking about how single-player games aren't worthy paying for even though they play them. It's sad to see such a lack of basic concern for the fate of fellow human beings and for justice and society and stuff like that.

Anyway, I'm rather appalled how most of people don't care (and actually, didn't even notice) about how the copyright lobby bought politicians so that they would discriminate against everyone else by and giving the copyright holder rights to such outrageously high compensations without a rise of compensations for everyone else who doesn't get paid the money that the law says they should be paid. As one of the poster mentioned, such compensations aren't applied to the parents that refuse to support their children because they could go bankrupt. Why isn't the same reasoning applied to the copyright breakers despite that their crime is much lighter?
Is it because children can't bribe politicians and the copyright lobby can? Is it because no other interest group isn't depraved enough to even make such insane demands?
I don't know, but one thing that I know is that since I learned about all that stuff (the 20x compensations) two months ago, the copyright lobby is my personal enemies.
 

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It's the golden rule.

I won't make the trite restatement of the age old joke, just imagine it in your head.
 

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Matt7895 said:
I'm pleased to see the thieving scumbags crying in this thread.

"Waaah I'm never going to buy another CDProjekt/GOG.com game again! Waaaaaaaaaah!"

I hope CDProjekt's "Nazi" lawyers find you and fucking destroy you. Some of us have to work for a living you know, that is how we afford games. We don't fucking steal other people's work.

Someone expresses a strongly worded opinion you disagree with: "lololol stop crying and whining." How the fuck is it not crying when people express their negativity towards piracy, yet the reverse is?
LALALALA STRONGLY WORDED OPINIONS ARE CRYING AND WHINING, BUT ONLY AS LONG AS I DISAGREE WITH THEM?

And if you're gonna say you never claimed that strongly worded opinions are crying only as long as you disagree with the sentiment behind them, and all strongly worded opinions ARE in fact crying, period, then what you wrote is essentially crying and expressing vindictive, impotent, butthurt rage towards pirates. Which it probably is, so yeah. :lol:
 
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visions said:
Matt7895 said:
I'm pleased to see the thieving scumbags crying in this thread.

"Waaah I'm never going to buy another CDProjekt/GOG.com game again! Waaaaaaaaaah!"

I hope CDProjekt's "Nazi" lawyers find you and fucking destroy you. Some of us have to work for a living you know, that is how we afford games. We don't fucking steal other people's work.

Someone expresses a strongly worded opinion you disagree with: "lololol stop crying and whining." How the fuck is it not crying when people express their negativity towards piracy, yet the reverse is?
LALALALA STRONGLY WORDED OPINIONS ARE CRYING AND WHINING, BUT ONLY AS LONG AS I DISAGREE WITH THEM?

And if you're gonna say you never claimed that strongly worded opinions are crying only as long as you disagree with the sentiment behind them, and all strongly worded opinions ARE in fact crying, period, then what you wrote is essentially crying and expressing vindictive, impotent, butthurt rage towards pirates. Which it probably is, so yeah. :lol:
Let's add to it severe delusions which are typical for people engaging in child abuse. I don't get it. Why such hatred for people who didn't do anything to anyone. Some of us who value others work just buy games when we want to support devs instead raping kiddies because someone doesn't.

Oh and if you're surprised why do you see such words related to you, here's a half-assed explaination that you moralfags love:
Speaking of the copyrighthinkery, since the copyright lobby loves manipulating emotions by calling people who download unauthorised copies with highly emotional names like thieves (people who take away something) and pirates (people who board ships and take crew hostage or slaughter it and take away stuff from the ship), let's invent a special name for them. Since they hurt little innocent children by their fiddling with law, how about kiddie fiddlers? It would be quite fun to see "piracy" discussions where first side is names the other thieves or pirates and the other calls the first child-abusers or paedophiles.
 

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visions said:
Someone expresses a strongly worded opinion you disagree with: "lololol stop crying and whining." How the fuck is it not crying when people express their negativity towards piracy, yet the reverse is?
LALALALA STRONGLY WORDED OPINIONS ARE CRYING AND WHINING, BUT ONLY AS LONG AS I DISAGREE WITH THEM?

And if you're gonna say you never claimed that strongly worded opinions are crying only as long as you disagree with the sentiment behind them, and all strongly worded opinions ARE in fact crying, period, then what you wrote is essentially crying and expressing vindictive, impotent, butthurt rage towards pirates. Which it probably is, so yeah. :lol:

It's not strongly worded so much as retardedly worded, and full of lies.

Just ignore the piracy aspect and what do you see here? A bunch of whining that people have to pay a small fine for sharing games, giving them away to someone else for free.

If you steal a candy bar you might have consequences disproportianate to the worth of a candy bar. If you didn't many people would just shoplift everything every time, then pay up the 75 cents if they get caught. But it costs a lot of money to catch people shoplifting, and while you are never going to stop it completely if you ignore it then as soon as you put goods out on the shelves they will disappear.

Even shoplifters have some the common sense and realize that the law is going to do something to put a stop to this if they can, and don't whine that candy should always be free.

What hiver is saying is no different than a shoplifter raging and screaming that the security cameras in 711 are a violation of civil rights, and they will lead to lots of false accusations of honest shoppers. Sure security measures inconvenience everyone but it comes back to who is causing this? Oh yeah the shoplifters.

But BB is right in that for publishers it's probably as much about eliminating resale of games, which is complete bullshit people should rage against. Why don't they? Because the people like hiver who are such little bitches are just pirating their games anyway, and that's the only reason for all the outrage.

So yes I agree wth some other people now who brought it up because of Black Cat. Just ban silly fucks like this guy, and if possible bash his head in with a rock. And I have seen him say the same bullshit on other sites, and I have little doubt he rants on and on all day long.

But don'tt ake me so much for a moralfag as someone who is tired of having his bullshit detector overloaded by shits like him.
 

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Awor Szurkrarz said:
Well, to be honest, some people here have reached completely new depths of retardation/depravity. Wow, I can understand that a lot of people aren't interested in the traditional family model, but to claim that babies and children should have to earn the support of their parents basically kinda goes beyond the moral event horizon. My ideological enemy list got enriched today.

I have to say you have some good hyperbole if nothing else. I have become irredeemably evil through a forum post, holy crap.
 

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My last advice to you, Awor, is: don't be the whiny, post-Warsaw Pact, vindictive little pole.

Be the proud pole; be the pole taking Russia by storm shortly before 1612; be a Kahlenberg pole under Jan Sobieski; be a pole of the foolhardiest Marshal of Napoleon, Joszef Poniatowski; be one of the poles succesfully fighting the legendary cavalry army of Semën Budënnyj.

Be a proud, strong pole. Not a whiny potatolander. If the derp goes high, be tough.
:salute:
 

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I think he's telling you not to define your ideology by the difficulties in your own life as that would invariably lead to an ideology solely concerning yourself.
 
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LoPan said:
I think he's telling you not to define your ideology by the difficulties in your own life as that would invariably lead to an ideology solely concerning yourself.
I don't define my ideology this way. I'm just giving an example of how copyright lobby pushes other people who should have been paid stuff - often harmed much more than them by someone copying their program or song or anything to a role of third-class citizens by buying politicians and that it's what makes these 20+x compensations unacceptable.

Here's an improved version:


We need to take a stand against the idea of exceptional-ism of the copyright promoted by the copyright lobby. The powerful copyright lobby is bribing politicians to create laws that are treat them differently that other cases of not paying the money that should be paid to someone according to law.

If you don’t pay for commissioned work, you pay interest, if you don’t pay alimony you pay interest. If for example someone doesn’t pay you for your work that he commissioned to you, you can’t demand him to pay you 20x the price of that work despite that such a thing may even make you go under.
If someone has a child and abandons it and dodges paying alimony that is given by court, that person doesn’t have to pay 20x the amount of the alimony not paid despite how damaging lack of these money is to the children’s well-being.
And these are much worse things than someone copying a program which he probably wouldn’t even buy if the option to copy it wouldn’t be available (it’s even if they would buy some, it’s impossible for most of downloaders to buy majority of stuff that they download).
And rightly they don’t get such outrageous compensations. Because applying a 20x multiplier to the amount of money that wasn’t paid is insane. But when multi-million dollar corporations are involved sanity can be easily bypassed by bribes (in U.S.A. bribing politicians is legal and widely and U.S.A. can pressure politicians in other countries into copying some of their laws – even if the politicians in Europe don’t secretly take bribes from the copyright lobby, these laws are still a result of bribery).

It doesn’t really matter if they have a 100% sure I.P. identification method. They are still demanding a disproportionally high amount of money and are still using a corrupt law that was bought by the copyright lobby that is discriminating and demeaning to other people who don’t get paid for stuff they should get paid, especially to little children.
There should be justice and equality for all. If it’s rightful to give 20x compensation for copying a program or using someone’s photo or image on a website, then there should be 100x compensation for not paying child support, a 100x compensation for not paying for commissioned work (since children don't have 1000s of parents that can still pay for the cost of their living without it becoming an excessive burden and for someone working on commission not going under often depends on that specific customer paying and the work is done, time and materials are used up for that specific customer), etc.
And while we’re at it, game publishers should have to pay 50x compensation when they sell a game claiming that it has features that it doesn’t have or when they forget to clearly write on the box that the game they sell is unfinished and will be probably finished with patches after long testing by public after the release.
If these ideas sound insane, then the same idea proposed by the copyright lobby should be declared insane and discarded too.

That’s why I’ll never buy anything from CD-Projekt or similar companies again. I don’t want to promote this kind of injustice, sick sense of entitlement, and contempt towards the rest of the society and its rights.

Justice and Equality"


Does it leave less room for interpretation?
 

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Your point has been made. The thing folks were lamenting here was your (alleged) repeated dropping of your abandonment case, which (in their opinion) should have no place in a piracy discussion. So your extralong post wasn't necessary, we got the gist of what you're saying.
;)
 

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The people were not lamenting, they were just taking cheap pot shots because they wrongly interpreted it as disclosure of weakness.
 

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hiver said:
The people were not lamenting, they were just taking cheap pot shots because they wrongly interpreted it as disclosure of weakness.

Yeah there's no hypocrisy at all in awor's desire to murder "copyrightfags", and no irony since this attitude is exactly why his father doesn't feel the need to support him. It's just that I felt a base desire to bitchslap an orphan around for a few minutes and see the ensuing meltdown.
 

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Mozgoëbstvo said:
Plus he didn't understand my historico-potatolish call to pride, arms, and unbitching.

That was quite rude, wasn't it, Wunderpups?

He didn't call you a child rapist so there's that.

I like Awor, but it is very odd to see a guy who is semi reasonable fly off into a weird rant about murdering people on a silly subject, especially since he expects people he's entitled to support by people who he has done nothing for and the people he wants to murder have done something for the people they are trying to get restitution from.
 
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I added working on commission and not getting paid and being hired and not getting paid as the situation here is exactly the same with that stuff. People may even lose a prosperous business because a contractor didn't pay them the money they were supposed to be. They are discriminated just as much as children as they haven't bribed politicians to make exceptions for them.
 

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Awor, why don't you just let this thread cool down for a bit and, let's say, pet kittens and eat ice creams for a couple days? Well, maybe not ice creams, since it's freakin' December.
Just chillin'.
:lol:
 

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Awor Szurkrarz said:
I added working on commission and not getting paid and being hired and not getting paid as the situation here is exactly the same with that stuff. People may even lose a prosperous business because a contractor didn't pay them the money they were supposed to be. They are discriminated just as much as children as they haven't bribed politicians to make exceptions for them.

But but but Awor the politicians DID make the fathers pay. Even if they turn out to not be the father later they might have to continue paying and can't get any money back.

And Awor, the people getting their shit pirated ARE providing a service then they are NOT getting paid. Why oh why can't you square these facts in your brain?

If you see a girl passed out on the floor at a frat party and see some guys take her clothes off and have sex with her, you may as well have sex with her, too, right? It's not like she will even know so how can that be wrong? Of course the law doesn't see it that way, fucking vaginaprotectionfags denying me free vagina!

Now if she was a whore and makes her living this way, if you have sex with her without consent even if she can't feel or remember it you are getting a freebee. If no one pays her then her little son won't be able to afford a game that costs 20 dollars PLN. Even though she is not killed by these guys and nothing is removed from inventory they are benefiting off of her and costing her valuable business by calling their buddies who also like free pussy to have a crack too, guys who might have paid her.

So basically it comes down to when the ruling is not in your favor you go mental. When it is in your favor, however undeservedly, you act like it's the mandate of heaven.

Which is exactly the attitude your father has towards paying for you. Why should I pay for this fuck? He's done shit for me and I got no visitation rights and the mom won't sleep with me any more. Fucking bullshit man.
 
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More delusions and idiotic assumptions? Here's a clue: there wasn't any denial of visitations or any stuff like that that you have invented in your subhuman mind.

And what's your rationale for denying the equal 20x compensations to people who actually work on commission or on contract or are hired and don't get paid the money they were supposed to pay (actually are providing services, not just use that name as another form of manipulation)? For people who dedicated their time and resources to a specific customer who agreed to pay specific amount of money and then didn't pay?
 

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