The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Average Manatee]

Now if they gave Ciri collector cards every time she banged someone in game that *would* be pretty progressive.

How so? This would be basically the return to The Witcher 1.

Fucking everything that moves is progressive as long as you are female

 

[Lord_Potato]

Ciri's sexuality is undefined, if anything. She did have sex with Mistle, a girl, but later she was also attracted to Sir Lancelot. This might mean the lesbo sex was an episode which she outgrew, or that she indeed is bisexual.

Which leaves all the freedom to the player who can make romantic choices not caring about the established lore - for it is very unclear and open to interpretations.

Remember guys, Ciri's "I actually prefer girls" from the Witcher 3 is a dialogue CHOICE and mostly serves a comedic role in the context of the sauna conversation.

 

[AwesomeButton]

How so?

Why, equality!

 

[MasPingon]

Ciri's sexuality is undefined, if anything. She did have sex with Mistle, a girl, but later she was also attracted to Sir Lancelot. This might mean the lesbo sex was an episode which she outgrew, or that she indeed is bisexual.

Wasn't she a rape victim by lesbian?

 

[Tyrr]

Ironically, playing a lesbian mc as a man is the less gay option.

 

[Mauman]

Ironically, playing a lesbian mc as a man is the less gay option.

Ah yes....my first Fallout 2 character*

*was going to play a guy but a friend told me to play a female named Buffy (you get a hefty early bonus for doing that). Turned out well enough.

 

[Ryzer]

I will probably say something controversial but Witcher 3 romances were fairly well done, to the point that there is still a debate years later which one between Triss and Yennefer is better.

 

[Mauman]

I will probably say something controversial but Witcher 3 romances were fairly well done, to the point that there is still a debate years later which one between Triss and Yennefer is better.

Ah yes, the century old debate.....a bitch who gaslit you and messed with your head or a complete cunt.

Choices choices....

 

[ShiningSoldier]

Thee entire idea that Geralt could consider choosing between Yennifer (his only true love) and Triss (a pretty girl that he banged a few times in books) sounds quite stupid.
There was a scene in the books where Yennifer kicked Triss' ass, and Triss said something like "ok, sorry, it was a mistake", and she never tried to date Geralt after.

 

[Storyfag]

There was a scene in the books where Yennifer kicked Triss' ass, and Triss said something like "ok, sorry, it was a mistake", and she never tried to date Geralt after.

There was no such scene. There were, however, hints and implications that something in that vein happened.

 

[Ryzer]

but later she was also attracted to Sir Lancelot.

Didn't she also sleep with that Skelliger that saved her life in 3, Skjall?

That poor sod died for that cunt only for a kiss on the cheek, and then has been necro'ed by Yennefer to suffer twice... without a grave. Nobody cared about him.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Thee entire idea that Geralt could consider choosing between Yennifer (his only true love) and Triss (a pretty girl that he banged a few times in books) sounds quite stupid.
There was a scene in the books where Yennifer kicked Triss' ass, and Triss said something like "ok, sorry, it was a mistake", and she never tried to date Geralt after.

Under closer inspection, the "one true love" backstory is a teenage cringelord fantasy, made all the worse when you know a grown man came up with it.

 

[Gargaune]

How so? This would be basically the return to The Witcher 1.

Hey, there's an idea - have the NPCs collect Ciri cards.

 

[thesecret1]

How so? This would be basically the return to The Witcher 1.

Hey, there's an idea - have the NPCs collect Ciri cards.

"Hey witchess, I think I may be dealing with some magical trouble."
"How so?"
"Well after you sucked me off in that back-alley, this card just materialized in my pocket, showing you choking on a dick. Do you think I'm cursed, or you are?"

 

[Gargaune]

Two dozen Cirilla sex cards. Hundreds of fuckable NPCs. Every time Ciri bangs one, the game gives that NPC a random card. They have different rarity and power levels and can be used in a new version of Gwent, but only by the AI, so characters dynamically roam the map looking to trade, play against or even rob each other. And if they come across Ciri, they offer quests to help them complete their deck.

Glorious, 11/10 IGN, Geoff Keighley gives TW4 two GOTYs! Forget about Radiant AI, forget about A-Life, CDPR could reinvent videogames with... NO-Life!

 

[Morgoth]

The Witcher 4 Director On Ciri, Gwent, And In-Game Romance​

The Sword of Destiny

By Jake Dekker

on December 19, 2024 at 1:47PM PST

The morning after The Witcher IV was officially revealed at The Game Awards, GameSpot had the chance to sit down with the game director Sebastian Kalemba and executive producer Małgorzata Mitręga. Although the interview was primarily focused on the reveal trailer, we did speak about Gwent, in-game romance, side quests, and the gameplay.

The trailer officially revealed that Ciri will be the protagonist for the new Witcher saga. In the video, she hunts a new monster based on Serbian folklore called the Bauk--a spider-like creature that gets in the heads of its victims before killing them. As part of our interview, we also got to hear a little about the inspiration for the new monster and more of what to expect from the much-anticipated sequel.

This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.

GameSpot: How are you both feeling after the reveal?

Sebastian Kalemba: I feel relieved, super excited, and happy. A little bit tired, but that's good, to be very honest, because we just entered production. But I'm super, super, super happy with the reaction we got so far, and we've been preparing for this moment all year and it was a really, really exciting experience. I was visualizing this moment for months and finally it blew up and I'm super happy. The team is excited and the team really deserves this moment. We finally don't have to talk about this project with the codename Polaris. We can call it Witcher IV. We can say it aloud that Ciri is the main protagonist and it's a new saga and it will take place in new regions of the world. These things we can finally reveal, and focus on the production and kick off a new year in the second with great energy.

To speak on Ciri a little bit, was that a hard decision to go with Ciri as the protagonist or was that pretty obvious from the beginning?

SK: It was an obvious choice, and I remember nine years ago we already made this call. [...] So it wasn't a hard choice. We decided [to] put the spotlight on Ciri because she deserves it. She was running most of her life and this is the moment for her to define herself. This gives us more room to expand the franchise here and there, but also to be able to tell the origin stories so new players will be able to experience this world from a different perspective but in a very appealing way.

Małgorzata Mitręga: This is a new protagonist--a new adventure--and it's the beginning of the saga, right? So this is a fresh start [that pays] a lot of respect to the sentiment to the previous installments.

Can you talk about the regions where it takes place or at least one?

MM: We can refer to the trailer, right? It's far north, in an isolated village. The trailer is showing the experience of what you [can expect] for the side content for the game. It won't be one-on-one because it was custom-created for having a consistent story that shows everything we want to show to the world [at this time]. But a lot of that comes from the game itself, and the assets are actually from the game. So it's a pre-render on the custom build, but it's an engine [with assets] from the game.

Can you talk a little bit about shifting the focus to Ciri, in terms of storytelling?

SK: So let's look at Ciri also through the prism of the trailer because when you look at this, there are no surprises. We specifically wanted to tell the story of a young girl that is not able to confront her destiny, [something Ciri can relate to]. Ciri was running for almost her whole life, and she finally found peace in Kaer Morhen. [...] That's why she's the very first witcher by choice. She decides to become a witcher because [she enjoys it]. It gives us a lot of room to explore some really cool emotional stakes, and some cool tropes to tell some great stories. There are common denominators [between her and Geralt] like the way she fights and the way she behaves, but she's also very passionate, very determined, and very engaged in anything she encounters and this is what we love [about her].

MM: She's [also] younger [and] more agile. Of course she [can also do more magic than Geralt] so it gives us [more to work with] when it comes to the gameplay. And you can see a glimpse of it in the trailer. We introduced a chain, so there are different tools and there will be more of them.

SK: Małgorzata [also] mentioned the spell. Ciri is not a regular human being. She's a source.

That makes her a special and super-powerful being. What does it mean? It means that you can control or at least sense the magic in the world. So in the trailer, she is simply using [the water as a source] to create a powerful spell.

I haven't read the books in a while, but when she trained at Kaer Morhen, she never actually went through witcher school, and never underwent the Trial of Grasses.

MM: Yes. We cannot explain what happened [yet], but for those who played the previous game, know she was not mutated back then, [but she has] definitely passed the Trial of Grasses [at this point in the story]. This also gives us a lot of possibilities for her to become a true Witcher and still find how she wants to perform that on her own terms. And the player will be able to grow with her and help her to make those choices.

I imagine balancing gameplay will be an interesting challenge considering how powerful she is canonically.

SK: Yeah, that was one of the things that we solved at the very beginning of pre-production. Yes, she was OP in Wild Hunt and there was a purpose behind this, but here [we want to give] you an opportunity to build her up in your way, with the tools we'll give you and with the stories you will be able to experience.

Can you talk a little bit about the monster that was shown? I know that's a new monster for the Witcher, but I think it's based on Serbian folklore.

MM: Yeah, it's based on Serbian folklore. It's more than a little bit [inspired actually].

SK: We pay a lot of attention to everything but [especially] to the monsters. That's at the center of [a monster slayer's world], right? And Ciri is a monster slayer. The Bauk is a very special being. It is a deadly monster that's complex and intelligent. He senses your fears and he's able to play with your mind. He makes you dizzy [and] lost. Then he attacks in a moment when [you're confused]. You can experience it while watching [the initial confrontation in] the trailer.

MM: We wanted to show that the Bauk is a very complex monster and you can experience more creatures like that during the game. We want to introduce new monsters, for sure, but of course, there will be a variety of them. [Monsters are one of the] most important elements of the Witcher world, right? But they're always connected to the region, to the location, to the people around them, to the environment, [and] to the story.

Gwent?

SK: I'll be honest with you, I was impressed by the amount of people that said, "Gwent 2.0." [There's been] so much positively [around] Gwent. And what I can say is, it's a part of this world.

MM: We love it and it's important. And also we love our community.

SK: It's very important and we hear you guys. We hear you and don't worry, all right?

When it comes to romance, what can fans expect? Will there be any in The Witcher IV?

SK: Absolutely. It's a part of the way we make games. It is a part of human nature. It's a very normal thing. Without that I think we wouldn't be able to tell the very full story.

MM: It's an important part of life.

SK: But as always, we want to pay a lot of attention to it and make it super compelling and very meaningful. So it's not just to make a romance for the sake of making a romance. That's not the CDPR way.

CD Projekt Red is known for their side quests. Have you guys thought about how you plan to push side quests even further?

MM: Yeah. We are always pushing further with each and every game. We will learn from the previous games and also look at what's happening in the market. You can expect us to. With our ambition, it will be nothing less. But yeah, we are looking forward [to exploring choices and consequences further]. To surprise the player, and to show them you don't really have control of [everything]. You think you're doing something and then it's the other way around. We also want to push how the side content and main content [are connected]. And also with Ciri herself [and how her growth is affected], right? For sure, we will look there to push the boundaries further.

SK: Yeah, exactly. We want to make them meaningful, and we want to make sure that the consequences are visible. So you [feel as though] you had an impact either on an NPC or world in general. [These complex decisions are] why our games have long tails, right? Because of these choices and consequences [add a lot of] re-playability. You can experience the game a little bit differently here and there.

Eurochad devs about romances: "Of course! It's an important part of life!"

vs

NA Cuck devs about romances: "B-b-better not. It might rile up our fans and create unforseen backlashes."

 

[Ol' Willy]

Ironically, playing a lesbian mc as a man is the less gay option.

Yes, but for this to work the chicks had to be cute. Not the real world dykes obviously

 

[Ryzer]

Ironically, playing a lesbian mc as a man is the less gay option.

Yes, but for this to work the chicks had to be cute. Not the real world dykes obviously

Witcher 3 chicks are cute. That was one of the most praised point of Witcher 3 : Character model.

It would be stupid to do ugly characters for Witcher 4.

 

[Tyrr]

It would be stupid to do ugly characters for Witcher 4.

We're talking about nu-CDPR here. Making Ciri the mc is already a very stupid decision.

 

[MasPingon]

Just reading those interviews I can tell Ciri's becoming a Witcher(her brave decision, finding her true self, breaking with social norms) is an introduction to the discussion about gender transition. In their minds this is a genius form of of inclusivity, tieing up The Witcher with today's politics. They are late to the party.

 

[moon knight]

backstory is a teenage cringelord fantasy,

It's not a backstory.

 

[moon knight]

We're talking about nu-CDPR here.

This ain't Bioware (yet)

 

[Harthwain]

It would be stupid to do ugly characters for Witcher 4.

We're talking about nu-CDPR here. Making Ciri the mc is already a very stupid decision.

Also, she is ugly out of the blue. She is basically an equivalent of Adriana Lima:

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Here is comparison for Ciri:

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I can understand celebrities making stupid decisions about their appearance (dumb women would rather do a risky surgery instead of going to a gym, because the latter takes time and effort), but to screw up your own videogame character to a similar degree? It doesn't happen accidentally. I suspect a woman behind it. Maybe a talentless one, too. After all, CDPR is known for having high turnover rate. Maybe they actually reached the point when people who stay aren't capable of doing good work.

This ain't Bioware (yet)

Sadly, it looks like they are getting there.

 

[moon knight]

Sadly, it looks like they are getting there.

Based on what? Phantom Liberty came out a year ago and was made by most of the same people working on this title.

Ciri's model? Except for that akward shot, it looks decent the the rest of the trailer.

 

[Ryzer]

We're talking about nu-CDPR here.

This ain't Bioware (yet)

>Tatoos
>Purple hair
>Man eyebrows
>Short hair
>Man jaw
Is that a tranny?