The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Fedora Master]

Strong resetera / Bioware forum smell leaking out of this

Everyone said this would happen. Why is anyone, especially here on the Codex, surprised?

 

[Gerrard]

Do I need to remind you of the only mention of a nigger in all of the Witcher books again?

 

[Storyfag]

we gotta scatter some black people all over that quasi-medieval quasi-slavic world somehow

Sapkowski did that just fine with Borkh's Zerrikanian female lovers/bodyguards.

Yeah, but it was mentioned they are exotic and from abroad.

I like how CDPR tackled diversity in Witcher 1 - they introduced one ethnically diverse human - Azar Javed - as a secondary villain

And had one character refer to him as "fucking savage who thinks only with his black cock"

 

[Lhynn]

Why doesnt this have a "woke slop" disclaimer on the title?

 

[Ryzer]

 

[Mauman]

The NO POLITICS RULES tend to only go one way. What a surprise :/

 

[Inec0rn]

Meh not really hyped for this, series peaked and I preferred the earlier games anyway.

- That whole dev team are gone
- I thought the short stories were best Witcher material and they didn't contain Ciri.
- Netflix shat on the IP and made it cringeworthy when it was an easy slam dunk.
- Its now mainstream and therefore this team will safe space pander everything.
- this was also damage control announced because cyberpunk bombed so hard on release.
- already a slew of woke hurr from dev team..

meh hard pass, looking like mainstream woke console game.

 

[Lhynn]

Pretty much, cdpr is dead, nothing to see here, move on.

 

[Inec0rn]

4th game in a series too, usually a franchise is absolute garbage by the 3+ release with very few exceptions.





p.s fallout isn't one of the exceptions.

 

[Skinwalker]

4th game in a series too, usually a franchise is absolute garbage by the 3+ release with very few exceptions.

Exceptions into the studio!

 

[Zlaja]

Well, except for "fascistic" that description is pretty accurate.

 

[Green]

They could have created a new witcher character(as they have done often in the series) to be protagonist, they could have done a series set in the golden age of witchers before they became a dying breed

That sounds boring as fuck.

The witcher saga has always been character driven. The worldbuilding is almost non existant and only serves as a canvas for the characters. Creating characters and eras from scratch, far removes from Sapkowski's work, would be just a huge fuck up. Continuing with the actual protagonist of the late book Saga is a much more sensible choice, because you can dip and take inspiration from the material and characters in the novels.

What are you talking about. Have you read the books? They've made away with the Rats, Bonhart, Galahad, turned Avallach into her assistant, Eredin into an idiot villain, Emhyr into an estranged father, all around butchered the White Frost/prophecy plots, so the fuck? She already was an all original snowflake in W3, and now she's gonna be a girlboss in W4 as the trailer clearly showcases.

Also, since we're playing fast and loose with who the 'protagonist' truly was, the real setting's protagonist is Ciri's unborn child. Which has been removed as a whole plot point entirely from the game, actually turning the books null and void since that's the whole reason anyone even gave a shit about Ciri in those.

 

[GrainWetski]

Ciri had an abortion shortly after the end of Witcher 3. It's the beginning of her journey as a strong, independent girlboss.

 

[Harthwain]

Well, except for "fascistic" that description is pretty accurate.

"CD Projekt Red Is Aiming For "New Players" Aad People Who "Do Not Play Our Games" and now they're openly insulting their playerbase by calling their fans "Fascistic, Unempathetic, And Depraved" [...] "Poisonous And Predatory Wankers"? This could be as fun as Veilguard, because CDPR clearly shows they have no idea who their audience is.

 

[Lord_Potato]

"CD Projekt Red Is Aiming For "New Players" Aad People Who "Do Not Play Our Games"

Every CDPR game aimed to expand the playerbase and mostly succeeded in this task. Making something more out of it is dumb.

and now they're openly insulting their playerbase by calling their fans "Fascistic, Unempathetic, And Depraved" [...] "Poisonous And Predatory Wankers"

The idiot they imployed wrote these words some years ago, when he was employed at The Gamer. It's not the official policy of CDPR, just a testament of bad work of HR department

This could be as fun as Veilguard, because CDPR clearly shows they have no idea who their audience is.

I doubt it will be as bad. The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it (seems like Avowed scandal fizzled out, so they need more fodder) but there is still much more goodwill around for CDPR than it was for Bioware or Ubisoft. Or even Obsidian.

 

[Lhynn]

The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it

They couldnt make it a thing if there was nothing there.

 

[Lord_Potato]

The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it

They couldnt make it a thing if there was nothing there.

certainly they do have lots of bad faith misinterpretations and a bit of fake news. We'll see if CDPR gives them anything substantial to spam about. And we'll see if they manage to actually hurt the sales of Witcher 4.

 

[Vincente]

The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it

They couldnt make it a thing if there was nothing there.

Trailer sits at about 830k likes and about 30k dislikes right now, so it is kinda nothing.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Rage merchants trying to dunk on CDPR remind me of dangerhairs calling for boycott of Hogwart's Legacy. At the end of the day they'll have to take a massive L.

 

[Harthwain]

Every CDPR game aimed to expand the playerbase and mostly succeeded in this task. Making something more out of it is dumb.

On its own? Certainly. However, I do see the convergence here.

The idiot they imployed wrote these words some years ago, when he was employed at The Gamer. It's not the official policy of CDPR, just a testament of bad work of HR department

He said more than that:



Besides that, I still fail to see your point. He is not just some drone at CDPR. He is "CD Projekt Red's Franchise and Lore Designer" (which also explains why CDPR is breaking the lore and now I am 100% sure there won't be any good explanation behind it).

I doubt it will be as bad. The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it (seems like Avowed scandal fizzled out, so they need more fodder) but there is still much more goodwill around for CDPR than it was for Bioware or Ubisoft. Or even Obsidian.

With people like that working on the game* (those that are left, that is*), I am not so optimistic. A lot of The Witcher stood on the atmosphere. If they turn it into Veilguard (or an equivalent), then the franchise dies. And CDPR doesn't really have much to fall back on.

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This one is also echoing the fear about ESG/DEI devs having the potential to destroy the franchise (which is exactly Veilguard scenario):



Yes, you can say we still have nothing solid to go on, but I argue this is foreshadowing of what is to come.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Every CDPR game aimed to expand the playerbase and mostly succeeded in this task. Making something more out of it is dumb.

On its own? Certainly. However, I do see the convergence here.

So, you're not criticizing what they said, rather what you think they meant.

The idiot they imployed wrote these words some years ago, when he was employed at The Gamer. It's not the official policy of CDPR, just a testament of bad work of HR department

He said more than that:



Besides that, I still fail to see your point. He is not just some drone at CDPR. He is "CD Projekt Red's Franchise and Lore Designer" (which also explains why CDPR is breaking the lore and now I am 100% sure there won't be any good explanation behind it).

I'm not a fan of this hire and would prefer CDPR to pick better people. However, you cannot present his past writing as CDPR current statements. That's simply misinformation.

I doubt it will be as bad. The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it (seems like Avowed scandal fizzled out, so they need more fodder) but there is still much more goodwill around for CDPR than it was for Bioware or Ubisoft. Or even Obsidian.

With people like that working on the game* (those that are left, that is*), I am not so optimistic. A lot of The Witcher stood on the atmosphere. If they turn it into Veilguard (or an equivalent), then the franchise dies.

Look at the Witcher 4 trailer. Did it really give you Veilguard vibes? Sanitized setting and quirky characters throwing Marvel-style one-liners?

And unlike Veilguard marketing materials, this trailer seems to be well-received by the general audiences.

And CDPR doesn't really have much to fall back on.

We shall see. Smash JT videos are sometimes amusing (and he nicely triggers gamejournos) but I wouldn't base any judgements on his videos.

 

[Green]

Witcher 4 isn't gonna come out tomorrow. Between now and the release there's gonna be two to four years of identity politics ruining media and tiring (even further) the shit out of people.

W4 will still probably do well off of W3 and CDPR's marketing (plus their lobotomite fanboys), but let's say GTAVI is an absolute Veilguard-like abomination and that could shuffle cards massively all on its own.

 

[Ryzer]

I doubt it will be as bad. The typical rage merchants like Endymion are trying to make a thing out of it (seems like Avowed scandal fizzled out, so they need more fodder) but there is still much more goodwill around for CDPR than it was for Bioware or Ubisoft. Or even Obsidian.

With people like that working on the game* (those that are left, that is*), I am not so optimistic. A lot of The Witcher stood on the atmosphere. If they turn it into Veilguard (or an equivalent), then the franchise dies.

Look at the Witcher 4 trailer. Did it really give you Veilguard vibes? Sanitized setting and quirky characters throwing Marvel-style one-liners?

Yes + the "There is no god but only monsters" to describe men is peak cringe, like it's only men that can be assholes. Give me a break.

 

[GrainWetski]

Witcher 4 isn't gonna come out tomorrow. Between now and the release there's gonna be two to four years of identity politics ruining media and tiring (even further) the shit out of people.

W4 will still probably do well off of W3 and CDPR's marketing (plus their lobotomite fanboys), but let's say GTAVI is an absolute Veilguard-like abomination and that could shuffle cards massively all on its own.

Nah, it'll sell based on the logo and name of company/game regardless of how other games and devs do. The average retard doesn't realize that the important people behind the games that made all the modern devs popular have been gone for years or even decades. Somehow it takes a failure or 3 using the IPs/company logos for them to finally catch on.

 

[normie]

Witcherer is out of the realm of gamers for good and it's in the territory of TV-race, which is the same race of people that use Facebook and shit
normal rules don't apply, you need to start thinking FarmVille and Bejeweled when you're thinking about how it's going to be received and how to measure its success