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Game News The Witcher Scavenger Hunt - What was that all about?

notnats

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Comrade Skyway is right, marketing is the evilz!!!!
 

Vandal

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Oh Volourn, you haven't changed a bit :)

We're making games we want to make and games we think people want to play -- there may be people who don't dig one aspect or another, but ultimately we want to make good games with a focus on story, while giving enough depth to satisfy hardcore gamers' tastes. /end generic PR response.
 

doctor_kaz

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So is CD Projekt ever going to make a sequel, or are they just going to make glorified patches and new versions for the next six years?
 

Vandal

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doctor_kaz said:
So is CD Projekt ever going to make a sequel, or are they just going to make glorified patches and new versions for the next six years?
RED itself is working on three unannounced games. Let's put this all into perspective... The Witcher came out a year ago. I'm fairly sure there are companies around that don't release a brand new game every year... maybe even some RPG studios that I used to work at. We've delivered a new game based on a new IP... and we spent the next half a year after that improving that version to be what we felt fans deserved in the first place. And that's all we've announced so far. You're doing some pretty awesome extrapolations to conclude we're only working on updates :)
 

pkt-zer0

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Vandal said:
We've delivered a new game based on a new IP... and we spent the next half a year after that improving that version to be what we felt fans deserved in the first place.
Next time don't release the game at all until it's what you feel fans deserve in the first place, and you'll avoid this "lol paid patch" nonsense.
Or then again, maybe not.
 

MetalCraze

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Vandal said:
We've delivered a new game based on a new IP... and we spent the next half a year after that improving that version to be what we felt fans deserved in the first place.
Better grafx but the same crappy combat, linear character system and terrible mmorpg quests. Why thank you.
 

FeelTheRads

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Once again Volourn proves he's no better than an TESFer.

For anyone with a bit of artistic taste it should be obvious The Witcher beats anything and I mean anything that was released lately with the possible exception of Bioshock. I would go even as far as saying it is among the games with the best art direction EVAR. Technically it is somewhat dated, but give me artistic style over bumporz mapingz!11 anytime.

Also, you must be some sort of retard to consider The Witcher's combat twitchy. Seriously, it is action oriented and it's fucking annoying when you miss the opponent with a click and lose your combo, but it's far from a hack&slash. Note that I'm playing in "isometric" camera mode. Don't know how the combat is in OTS mode and I don't give a fuck.

Alsoplustoo, I'm currently playing The Witcher for the first time so I'll probably be back soon foaming at the mouth at everybody claiming imbecilic things about it. Oh wait, I already started...

P.S. This "the game forces you to use alchemy" is eh, somewhat out there. I'm playing it on difficult and I remember maybe 4-5 encounters when I had to reload. And usually all you have to do is down a Swallow potion. If that means "the game forces you to use alchemy" then... fine. Or maybe it gets more difficult later on... will see. Now I'm somewhere around the end of chapter 3.

and you'll avoid this "lol paid patch" nonsense.

Oh, yeah.. that too. It's a fucking re-release, not a patch. It's quite disheartening to see how many people fail to grasp such a simple concept. ALL re-released games contained the patches released until that time. How is it different in this case?


Edit:

linear character system and terrible mmorpg quests

Fuck this... I'll give you that linear character system bit, but mmorpg quests? All of them? Really? That terrible? Excluding the contracts all quests have a bit of depth to them and often interesting outcomes. Did you miss that?
 

MetalCraze

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FeelTheRads said:
Once again Volourn proves he's no better than an TESFer.

For anyone with a bit of artistic taste it should be obvious The Witcher beats anything and I mean anything that was released lately with the possible exception of Bioshock.
Considering that this year we got nothing but crap it wasn't that hard.

Also, you must be some sort of retard to consider The Witcher's combat twitchy. Seriously, it is action oriented and it's fucking annoying when you miss the opponent with a click and lose your combo, but it's far from a hack&slash.
Yeah - just click your mouse button when Simon says so with the same intervals between clicks and don't forget to spam fire spells at monsters and "force push" at humans from time to time in between taking a nap.

Alsoplustoo, I'm currently playing The Witcher for the first time so I'll probably be back soon foaming at the mouth at everybody claiming imbecilic things about it. Oh wait, I already started...
Woah that sounded like it's ESF all over again!

It's a fucking re-release, not a patch.
Whatever.
 

Vandal

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pkt-zer0 said:
Vandal said:
We've delivered a new game based on a new IP... and we spent the next half a year after that improving that version to be what we felt fans deserved in the first place.
Next time don't release the game at all until it's what you feel fans deserve in the first place, and you'll avoid this "lol paid patch" nonsense.
Or then again, maybe not.
Harsh, dude. In truth, we were happy with The Witcher at release. Yes, people had issues that we didn't catch in testing for one reason or another... but a lot of people played it and had no problems. Then we went back and, based on the comments from fans (which included the understandable anger about bugs) we went back and spent more than six months fixing various things... while I can understand being upset about the state of the game at launch, I don't know many other companies that would actually go back and spend that much time fixing the issues. That's me speaking as a gamer, and not as an employee of RED. Sure, we wanted to try and make some of that back -- and even after the Enhanced Edition, we've barely started to make money off of the project. Game development isn't exactly a cheap business, and I don't think we can be faulted for trying to not go out of business.
 

FeelTheRads

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@skyway

I like your selective reading abilities. Can you train me too?

Whatever.

Did you buy The Witcher? If you did, did you also had to buy the enhanced edition to play it? No, because it was free for you. Guess it's not a payed patch then. Christ, it's simple logic at work here.
 

MetalCraze

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Vandal said:
I don't know many other companies that would actually go back and spend that much time fixing the issues.
Yes companies releasing patches 6 months after game's release are a rare thing :roll:

FeelTheRads said:
Did you buy The Witcher? If you did, did you also had to buy the enhanced edition to play it? No, because it was free for you. Guess it's not a payed patch then. Christ, it's simple logic at work here.

As I've said it isn't a re-release that I dislike but the terrible hypocrisy and hype with which it was surrounded. Releasing a yet another patch 6 months after the game release isn't something out of this world (especially cosmetic patch that didn't fix any -real- issues). Even crap like Xenus aka Boiling Point had graphix update patch a year after its release.
 

dagorkan

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I like how half the posts in the official Witcher mod forums are related either to 'sex cards' or nude textures... very mature RPG indeed.
 

Vandal

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skyway said:
Vandal said:
I don't know many other companies that would actually go back and spend that much time fixing the issues.
Yes companies releasing patches 6 months after game's release are a rare thing :roll:
I didn't say that at all... I said "spend that much time." We had a sizeable team working on the Enhanced Edition full time... a much larger team than you'd get with a "patch."
 

Lesifoere

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Vandal said:
Then we went back and, based on the comments from fans (which included the understandable anger about bugs) we went back and spent more than six months fixing various things... while I can understand being upset about the state of the game at launch,

I don't know why people'd be upset. As far as I recall, at launch there wasn't much wrong with the game apart from the loading times. Which was a pretty big issue, but it was fixed quickly enough with a patch, so I'd say it's forgivable. No game-breaking bugs, and you're talking to a forum full of people who loved VtM:Bloodlines--which at release had a quest bug that made it impossible to complete the game. Ultimately, you did a much better job with the Aurora engine than Bioware or Obsidian ever managed, which is quite something given what a clusterfuck piece-of-shit engine it is.

That's me speaking as a gamer, and not as an employee of RED. Sure, we wanted to try and make some of that back -- and even after the Enhanced Edition, we've barely started to make money off of the project. Game development isn't exactly a cheap business, and I don't think we can be faulted for trying to not go out of business.

Nope, not at all. I hope you guys make some money back, because if any RPG-making company in recent time deserves it, it's CDPR. Port to 4534636 consoles if you must, as long as you retain the integrity and quality of your PC releases (and hopefully release your things on PC first instead of the other way around, so the PC version doesn't suffer from consolized stupidity).
 

Ryuken

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Vandal said:
doctor_kaz said:
So is CD Projekt ever going to make a sequel, or are they just going to make glorified patches and new versions for the next six years?
RED itself is working on three unannounced games.
Baldur's Gate III? :) Wouldn't trust that to Bioware anymore now, not if you look at their post BGII record. Although Dragon Age looks like they want to make up for all those lost years.
 

Dandelion

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Vandal said:
pkt-zer0 said:
Vandal said:
We've delivered a new game based on a new IP... and we spent the next half a year after that improving that version to be what we felt fans deserved in the first place.
Next time don't release the game at all until it's what you feel fans deserve in the first place, and you'll avoid this "lol paid patch" nonsense.
Or then again, maybe not.
Harsh, dude. In truth, we were happy with The Witcher at release. Yes, people had issues that we didn't catch in testing for one reason or another... but a lot of people played it and had no problems. Then we went back and, based on the comments from fans (which included the understandable anger about bugs) we went back and spent more than six months fixing various things... while I can understand being upset about the state of the game at launch, I don't know many other companies that would actually go back and spend that much time fixing the issues. That's me speaking as a gamer, and not as an employee of RED. Sure, we wanted to try and make some of that back -- and even after the Enhanced Edition, we've barely started to make money off of the project. Game development isn't exactly a cheap business, and I don't think we can be faulted for trying to not go out of business.
Not to mention this idiotic statement "paid patch" that someone STILL seems to repeat..bah, I really don't understant all this senseless hate growing here(thought was only DU lol) :?
Maybe it will keep you on guard :)
 

Hümmelgümpf

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Ryuken said:
Vandal said:
doctor_kaz said:
So is CD Projekt ever going to make a sequel, or are they just going to make glorified patches and new versions for the next six years?
RED itself is working on three unannounced games.
Baldur's Gate III? :) Wouldn't trust that to Bioware anymore now, not if you look at their post BGII record. Although Dragon Age looks like they want to make up for all those lost years.
Come on, Baldur's Gate games are shit. Something BioWare has been specializing in since day 1.
 

Texas Red

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Skyway, you're not getting any Kodex Kool Kreds with your behavior. Can you get it through your thick skull that you shouldn't talk like a douche to a developer even if you're on the Codex?
 

dagorkan

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Fuck you, we talk how we like. You just don't like it because for once YOUR favorite game is being criticized. Other developers (Bioware, Bethesda) get far worse treatment routinely.

In fact, unlike with other games we're not getting personal. We criticize their methods and don't single anyone out, which is not comparable to what you and the NMA retards do.
 

Silellak

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skyway said:
Yes companies releasing patches 6 months after game's release are a rare thing :roll:

Companies releasing patches that completely update the English script - and updating the voice-overs to match - is pretty fucking rare.
 

FeelTheRads

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skyway said:
As I've said... blah blah blah.. bulibu bulibu... bleeeeergh

Of course, of course. Did it also occur to you that even though the hype was too much it still had some merit? After all, it wasn't simply a "let's patch it and sell it in a jewel case and fuck it" re-release.
The extra content both in game and outside of it is worth some advertising instead of just getting out to let it collect dust on the shelves, don't you think?
It's sad that people don't see the difference between... say Bethesda/Bioware/pretty much all big companies and these guys, because it is quite huge.


And no, The Witcher is not really my type of game, it's not perfect and it has its share of stupid stuff, but it managed to keep me interested (once I got past chapter 1). So I'm not defending the company because of the game. I'm defending them because they really don't seem to be the whores the others are...at least for now. Maybe soon.
 

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